"Tim W" wrote:
> Hardly simple. The Netherlands has a very low crime rate and very
> few guns. Switzerland has a very high rate of gun homicide (and
> suicide), as you would expect from the high gun ownership rates. Of
> course you could argue that gun ownership prevents crime, and that
> the staggering crime figures in the USA would be even worse with gun
> control, and of course the USA also has a very high non-gun homicide
> rate, so what is so wrong with America.....?
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You are trying to inject logic into a paranoid knee jerk issue.
Unfortunately, never going to happen.
Lew
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> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Rusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>I didn't see any pistols
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>> Did you actually look?
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> You didn't see any did you?
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Yes. Several.
Tim W wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g
> [link to video entitled Why Switzerland has the lowest Crime rate in
> the World, subject of guns kept in houses]
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> Hardly simple. The Netherlands has a very low crime rate and very few
> guns. Switzerland has a very high rate of gun homicide (and suicide),
> as you would expect from the high gun ownership rates. Of course you
> could argue that gun ownership prevents crime, and that the
> staggering crime figures in the USA would be even worse with gun
> control, and of course the USA also has a very high non-gun homicide
> rate, so what is so wrong with America.....?
Comparing countries doesn't work. Consider Gun owership high/low and Gun
crime high/low. Examples can be found supporting every one of the four
boxes.
Further, the U.S. has situations not duplicated in other countries, such as
military deaths and gang violence.
But all the studies beg the question of whether homicides attributed to
firearms are bad. Assuming one goblin kills another, society is better off
by two (assuming the shooter is caught and executed). In Texas, as in most
other states, there exists the "But yer honor, he NEEDED killin'! " defense.
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> "Rusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>I didn't see any pistols
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> Did you actually look?
You didn't see any did you?
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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g
[link to video entitled Why Switzerland has the lowest Crime rate in the
World, subject of guns kept in houses]
Hardly simple. The Netherlands has a very low crime rate and very few guns.
Switzerland has a very high rate of gun homicide (and suicide), as you would
expect from the high gun ownership rates. Of course you could argue that
gun ownership prevents crime, and that the staggering crime figures in the
USA would be even worse with gun control, and of course the USA also has a
very high non-gun homicide rate, so what is so wrong with America.....?
Tim W
I didn't see any pistols
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g
"Rusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I didn't see any pistols
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Did you actually look?