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> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
> or other
>
Refurb'd Delta 12" Benchtop from ToolKing. $125.
Hey Dave, You and I have the same DP. I like my 965 also, good price,
good quality (for a Chinese machine), and it just feels like a solid unit.
Mark L.
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
>> or other
>>
>> Regards Mark
>
> how much you wanna spend? I've got a floor model Delta that suits me
> fine. 17-965. plenty of quill travel and adequate quality. much nicer
> of a DP than the Delta 14 BS.
>
> dave
>
Thu, Jul 8, 2004, 3:24pm [email protected] wants to know:
Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ???????? or
other
I've read the other responses. My response is, it depends.
Depends on a number of things, as usual. How much you got to
spend? What do you want to use iit for? Drilling holes in wood will
never require the accuracy that some metal drilling will. Etc., etc.,
etc.
I've got a $50 Harbor Freight bench model drillpress that handles
most of my drilling needs, in metal, or wood. The rest is taken care of
with a B&D drill. Both are plenty accrate enough.
What I don't do, is use both every day, or to make a living with
them. If I used them every day, I might, or might not, get something
else. If I was concerned with making a living with them. I'd have
heavier duty versions of both. As is, I doubt I'll replace my HF model.
JOAT
What we see depends mainly on what we look for.
- Sir John Lubbock
Movement of the chuck other than centered on the axis of rotation. If
you've ever bent a bit slightly, or chucked it a touch off-center, you've
noticed the tip makes little circles. If the DP quill / chuck combination
has runout, the small circle is the _best_ you can hope for.
It says it was presented at a "symposium on hole technology," but in spite
of that ominous-sounding intro:
http://www.lionprecision.com/spindle/targaarticles.html
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Newby here... what is "run-out" ???
>
> Alex
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:24:02 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
>or other
Why entry level? Afraid you're not going to use it much? Hah! The
drill press may well be the most used tool in my shop. It probably
will be in yours, too.
Get a 16½" or 17" (or whatever dimension they're calling them these
days) floor model drill press and you'll never want in that tool
category again. Delta has changed their drill press (and other tool)
model numbers, but the old 17-900 which was supplanted by the 17-965
is hard to beat at around the $300-400 price range.
I'm not a fan of Jet, but their drill press has been well reviewed by
several posters here and on other fora.
Powermatic also makes one in the same range that probably would be
good, too.
Don't discount General, either (or General International, their import
line).
Almost anything you get is going to be a Chiwanese import, if that
matters to you. You would probably be hard pressed (and cash poor
afterward) to find an American made drill press.
Call me fickle, but I haven't found much of anything from Ryobi that I
would care to have in my shop. Some other manufacturer's products
aren't listed here for the same reason.
- -
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
LRod wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:24:02 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
>>or other
>
>
> Why entry level? Afraid you're not going to use it much? Hah! The
> drill press may well be the most used tool in my shop. It probably
> will be in yours, too.
>
> Get a 16½" or 17" (or whatever dimension they're calling them these
> days) floor model drill press and you'll never want in that tool
> category again. Delta has changed their drill press (and other tool)
> model numbers, but the old 17-900 which was supplanted by the 17-965
> is hard to beat at around the $300-400 price range.
>
> I'm not a fan of Jet, but their drill press has been well reviewed by
> several posters here and on other fora.
>
> Powermatic also makes one in the same range that probably would be
> good, too.
>
> Don't discount General, either (or General International, their import
> line).
>
> Almost anything you get is going to be a Chiwanese import, if that
> matters to you. You would probably be hard pressed (and cash poor
> afterward) to find an American made drill press.
>
> Call me fickle, but I haven't found much of anything from Ryobi that I
> would care to have in my shop. Some other manufacturer's products
> aren't listed here for the same reason.
>
> - -
> LRod
>
> Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>
> Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>
> http://www.woodbutcher.net
ONE Ryobi piece that's ok IMO is the OSS. Bought one after
Mike in Mystic told me how much he liked his. He was right.
I've given up on other Ryobi tools. I have their ROS: POS.
Replaced it with a PC and let the Ryobi gather dust.
dave
yes, but I avoid mentioning it for fear of not getting into
my flame retardant suit quickly enough to avoid the flames!
:) My current BS is a Powermatic, which I really like a
lot. (But I bet you already knew that, huh?)
dave
Mark L. wrote:
> I've heard you had a BS problem...... ;-)
>
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>> Mark L. wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Dave, You and I have the same DP. I like my 965 also, good
>>> price, good quality (for a Chinese machine), and it just feels like a
>>> solid unit.
>>> Mark L.
>>>
>>> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>>
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
>>>>> or other
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> how much you wanna spend? I've got a floor model Delta that suits
>>>> me fine. 17-965. plenty of quill travel and adequate quality. much
>>>> nicer of a DP than the Delta 14 BS.
>>>>
>>>> dave
>>>>
>>>
>> glad you like yours too, Mark. It's one of only 3 pieces of Delta
>> gear I have. Unisaw, sander, and the DP. Other Delta equipment has
>> let me down. I won't mention exactly what, or you'll see 16 guys
>> whining that I'm bringing up old news. :)
>> Here's a hint: the tools rhymes with "grandpa".
>>
>> dave
>>
>
> This is the one I have. I picked it up after Charley Self recomended
> it as a best buy a few years back
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=G7944&gid=5E5B455D-A9B1-417A-A95C-B02C0831EACA&site=grizzly
That URL is now changed to this one:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=G7944
Millions of huge URL's take up a LOT of disc space. Looks like
they set up a new web system and cut that space in half, but now
they need bigger pictures.
Alex
"Joe_Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in news:xDiHc.7101
[email protected]:
> I have a Ryobi 10" bench drill press. I like it a lot...I use
it > a lot.
So do I-- got it on sale for about $60 (floor model) a year ago.
I use it quite a bit and it's just fine for my needs. I don't
have room for anything larger, and once I made a fence for it and
added a small vice it's really a pleasure to use.
I looked at the other offerings in the $75-100 price range, inc.
the Craftsman 9" that's always on sale, and thought the Ryobi
better designed and built.
-Derek
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:24:02 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
>or other
>
>Regards Mark
Drill presses are not high expensive items, so try to get the best you
can afford. I have a floor model Delta and love it. One drawback is
to change speeds you need to juggle a belt over two cone pulleys. A
variable speed "dial" model is more money, however. You want one with
very little run out.
[email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
> or other
>
> Regards Mark
This is the one I have. I picked it up after Charley Self recomended
it as a best buy a few years back
http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=G7944&gid=5E5B455D-A9B1-417A-A95C-B02C0831EACA&site=grizzly
"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Call me fickle, but I haven't found much of anything from Ryobi that I
> would care to have in my shop. Some other manufacturer's products
> aren't listed here for the same reason.
Nope - I'd call you careful.
That said - their OSS and the BE321 VS 3x21" Belt Sander have found a warm
spot in my heart.
The more I use both - the more I'm convinced they're in a nice
weekend-warrior / value spot.
Ummm, are you sure I meant BandSaw???? :-)
David wrote:
> yes, but I avoid mentioning it for fear of not getting into my flame
> retardant suit quickly enough to avoid the flames! :) My current BS is
> a Powermatic, which I really like a lot. (But I bet you already knew
> that, huh?)
>
> dave
>
> Mark L. wrote:
>
>> I've heard you had a BS problem...... ;-)
>>
>> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>
>
Mark L. wrote:
> Hey Dave, You and I have the same DP. I like my 965 also, good price,
> good quality (for a Chinese machine), and it just feels like a solid unit.
> Mark L.
>
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
>>> or other
>>>
>>> Regards Mark
>>
>>
>> how much you wanna spend? I've got a floor model Delta that suits me
>> fine. 17-965. plenty of quill travel and adequate quality. much
>> nicer of a DP than the Delta 14 BS.
>>
>> dave
>>
>
glad you like yours too, Mark. It's one of only 3 pieces of
Delta gear I have. Unisaw, sander, and the DP. Other Delta
equipment has let me down. I won't mention exactly what, or
you'll see 16 guys whining that I'm bringing up old news. :)
Here's a hint: the tools rhymes with "grandpa".
dave
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 02:55:26 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a 12" Delta benchtop model. I'd say that is the minimum you want.
>Don't bother with the 10" machines. You also want one that has a crank
>handle for table height adjustment, not have to do it by hand.
>
As for the table height adjustment, excellent point. I learned the hard
way with my entry-level DP that does not have it. I am now in DP time-out
- making due for now.
I've heard you had a BS problem...... ;-)
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> Mark L. wrote:
>
>> Hey Dave, You and I have the same DP. I like my 965 also, good price,
>> good quality (for a Chinese machine), and it just feels like a solid
>> unit.
>> Mark L.
>>
>> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
>>>> or other
>>>>
>>>> Regards Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> how much you wanna spend? I've got a floor model Delta that suits me
>>> fine. 17-965. plenty of quill travel and adequate quality. much
>>> nicer of a DP than the Delta 14 BS.
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>
> glad you like yours too, Mark. It's one of only 3 pieces of Delta gear
> I have. Unisaw, sander, and the DP. Other Delta equipment has let me
> down. I won't mention exactly what, or you'll see 16 guys whining that
> I'm bringing up old news. :)
> Here's a hint: the tools rhymes with "grandpa".
>
> dave
>
A $50-$100 good used unit from your local want ads. I spent $100 on mine at
an estate sale; big motor, 17 speed, 15" "benchtop" (at 100 lbs and 37"
total height, calling it a benchtop is iffy). 20 year old Chinese import at
that, and it's *still* good, little to no runout, etc (it was an industrial
model, used strictly for metal drilling by prior owner).
thanks,
--randy
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
> or other
>
> Regards Mark
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 04:15:32 -0700, "AArDvarK" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Newby here... what is "run-out" ???
>
>Alex
>
It has to do with precision. Lower cost machines with have lower
tolerances. This may or not matter depending on the use of your drill
press. Basically, you test for run out by chucking a piece of stiff
wire (such as a coat hanger piece) and bending the wire so that it
barely touches a large circle path on the table top. When the chuck
is turned, the gap should be the same all the way around if there is
no run-out. Personally, I'd shop for a high precision machine with
the fewest gadgets to get a good value.
[email protected] wrote:
> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
> or other
>
> Regards Mark
how much you wanna spend? I've got a floor model Delta that
suits me fine. 17-965. plenty of quill travel and adequate
quality. much nicer of a DP than the Delta 14 BS.
dave
I have a Ryobi 10" bench drill press. I like it a lot...I use it a lot.
Have fun.
Joe
http://joesandbettyspages.bravehost.com/page5.html
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
> or other
>
> Regards Mark
If you're running on a tight budget, check with your nearest tool dealer for
factory-reconditioned tools, they work fine for a little over half-price.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
> or other
>
> Regards Mark
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Can you suggest a good entry level drill press. Ryobi, Delta ????????
> or other
>
> Regards Mark
I have a 12" Delta benchtop model. I'd say that is the minimum you want.
Don't bother with the 10" machines. You also want one that has a crank
handle for table height adjustment, not have to do it by hand.
If you have the space and money, get a larger floor model. I use my DP
often. It is one of the first tools I bought and I don't regret it at all.
Ed
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