"Larry Jaques" wrote:
>
> Hey, that's what my $24 HF bisquicker sounds like. I should throw
> some
> thrust washers in there to take up the slack. If I let off the
> throttle while the cutter is engaged, it makes a wider slot and the
> biscuits don't fit as well.
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IOW it's a typical POS from HF.
Lew
> "EC II" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I like the Porter Cable. The Ryobi springs seemed a bit tight for me. And
>>the ergonomics were not what I liked.
>>
>> So, anyone with any thoughts as to other preferences? Did Milwaukee make
>> one?
>>
>> The Craftsman looks ok too.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
I have the Porter Cable. I found an adapter for the dust outlet and I use a
small Ridgid shop vac that does a *fine* job.
It's no Lamelleo but then I don't use it enough to justify the cost of the
Lamello.
Max
"SonomaProducts.com" wrote:
I guess you mean biscuit or plate Joiner. I have a Dewalt. It looks
nice but I don't like it. Really stiff, noisey and just sounds bad
like grinding metal. I've almost sold it a time or two via craigs or
eBay but feel guilty. I use it so infrequently that I just keep
keeping it.
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Never bothered to get a biscuit joiner, just use a slot cutter and a
straight bit of the proper size in a basic router.
Works for me and saves a few $$$..
YMMV
Lew
I guess you mean biscuit or plate Joiner. I have a Dewalt. It looks
nice but I don't like it. Really stiff, noisey and just sounds bad
like grinding metal. I've almost sold it a time or two via craigs or
eBay but feel guilty. I use it so infrequently that I just keep
keeping it.
On Jan 21, 9:33=A0am, EC II <[email protected]> wrote:
> I like the Porter Cable. The Ryobi springs seemed a bit tight for me.
> And the ergonomics were not what I liked.
>
> So, anyone with any thoughts as to other preferences? Did Milwaukee make
> one?
>
> The Craftsman looks ok too.
>
> Thanks in advance.
On Jan 21, 11:33=A0am, EC II <[email protected]> wrote:
> I like the Porter Cable. The Ryobi springs seemed a bit tight for me.
> And the ergonomics were not what I liked.
>
> So, anyone with any thoughts as to other preferences? Did Milwaukee make
> one?
>
> The Craftsman looks ok too.
>
> Thanks in advance.
I have an older DeWalt but it looks pretty much like the newer ones,
Been very satisfied,
RonB
"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I guess you mean biscuit or plate Joiner. I have a Dewalt. It looks
nice but I don't like it. Really stiff, noisey and just sounds bad
like grinding metal. I've almost sold it a time or two via craigs or
eBay but feel guilty. I use it so infrequently that I just keep
keeping it.
I'll second this. First time I cranked it up, I thought it was broken, it
was grinding so much. The thing that bothers me most is that since I use it
lefthanded, the motor fan blows the sawdust up, directly into my face. That
being said, the only step ups I would consider would be a Lamelo ($$$WOW$$$)
or a Festool Domino. If I went the domino route, I doubt I'd even get rid
of the DeWalt since they are different animals.
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:33905ab5-3837-4045-9dc6-191cbf47393f@f12g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> I guess you mean biscuit or plate Joiner. I have a Dewalt. It looks
> nice but I don't like it. Really stiff, noisey and just sounds bad
> like grinding metal. I've almost sold it a time or two via craigs or
> eBay but feel guilty. I use it so infrequently that I just keep
> keeping it.
>
> I'll second this. First time I cranked it up, I thought it was broken, it
> was grinding so much. The thing that bothers me most is that since I use
> it lefthanded, the motor fan blows the sawdust up, directly into my face.
> That being said, the only step ups I would consider would be a Lamelo
> ($$$WOW$$$) or a Festool Domino. If I went the domino route, I doubt I'd
> even get rid of the DeWalt since they are different animals.
I have had a PC 556 plate joiner since 1989, and have had the Type 1 PC 557
plate joiner for at least 10 years... I kept the old one to make odd cuts
that you may not want to make with my newer unit. Now that I have a Domino
I may get rid of the oldest one and hang on to the 557 for those odd jobs.
A cool use for any plate joiner is to cut mortises for drawer "lock arms" to
engage. Because the lock arm moves in an arc to engage the mortise the arc
mortise that the plate joiner makes works well.
On Jan 21, 5:30=A0pm, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:33905ab5-3837-4045-9dc6-191cbf47393f@f12g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> I guess you mean biscuit or plate Joiner. I have a Dewalt. It looks
> nice but I don't like it. Really stiff, noisey and just sounds bad
> like grinding metal. I've almost sold it a time or two via craigs or
> eBay but feel guilty. I use it so infrequently that I just keep
> keeping it.
>
> I'll second this. =A0First time I cranked it up, I thought it was broken,=
it
> was grinding so much. =A0The thing that bothers me most is that since I u=
se it
> lefthanded, the motor fan blows the sawdust up, directly into my face. =
=A0That
> being said, the only step ups I would consider would be a Lamelo ($$$WOW$=
$$)
> or a Festool Domino. =A0If I went the domino route, I doubt I'd even get =
rid
> of the DeWalt since they are different animals.
Same with my PC. It sounds like a coffee grinder full of 1/4-20
nuts. For the $230 I spent on it, I'm certainly not impressed with
either the quality of the machine or its operation.
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> > "EC II" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >>I like the Porter Cable. The Ryobi springs seemed a bit tight for me. And
> >>the ergonomics were not what I liked.
> >>
> >> So, anyone with any thoughts as to other preferences? Did Milwaukee make
> >> one?
> >>
> >> The Craftsman looks ok too.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
>
> I have the Porter Cable. I found an adapter for the dust outlet and I use a
> small Ridgid shop vac that does a *fine* job.
> It's no Lamelleo but then I don't use it enough to justify the cost of the
> Lamello.
>
> Max
>
>
I'll second that. I use a PC 39332 vac hose on my 557. It's much smaller in
diameter than my regular vac hose and is much easier to move around with.
Art
"EC II" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I like the Porter Cable. The Ryobi springs seemed a bit tight for me. And
>the ergonomics were not what I liked.
>
> So, anyone with any thoughts as to other preferences? Did Milwaukee make
> one?
>
> The Craftsman looks ok too.
>
> Thanks in advance.
For affordable the PC has been the front runner. Up from there is the
Lamelo considered the Cadillac or the Festool Domino to step it up a couple
of notches.
Funny, I have a DeWalt too but never use it. I also feel like selling it
all the time but never do. It sounds much better if you hook it up to a
shop vac. All plate joiners I've tried have the same motor/gear grinding
noise.
I've had the PC, Lamello and DeWalt but never got decent results with any
of them. There's often a difference in the slot location so the joints
don't line up perfectly. A slot cutter in the router table always works
and is always aligned. I've taken to using splines instead of biscuits
whenever I can. The downside to the router table is less versatility and
no portability.
I tried using dominoes at work but they kept breaking. I'm convinced
it's the machine and not the employees. I invested in 2 horizontal
mortisers and solved that problem.
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:37:24 -0800 (PST), the infamous
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On Jan 21, 5:30 pm, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:33905ab5-3837-4045-9dc6-191cbf47393f@f12g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>> I guess you mean biscuit or plate Joiner. I have a Dewalt. It looks
>> nice but I don't like it. Really stiff, noisey and just sounds bad
>> like grinding metal. I've almost sold it a time or two via craigs or
>> eBay but feel guilty. I use it so infrequently that I just keep
>> keeping it.
>>
>> I'll second this. First time I cranked it up, I thought it was broken, it
>> was grinding so much. The thing that bothers me most is that since I use it
>> lefthanded, the motor fan blows the sawdust up, directly into my face. That
>> being said, the only step ups I would consider would be a Lamelo ($$$WOW$$$)
>> or a Festool Domino. If I went the domino route, I doubt I'd even get rid
>> of the DeWalt since they are different animals.
>
>Same with my PC. It sounds like a coffee grinder full of 1/4-20
>nuts. For the $230 I spent on it, I'm certainly not impressed with
>either the quality of the machine or its operation.
Hey, that's what my $24 HF bisquicker sounds like. I should throw some
thrust washers in there to take up the slack. If I let off the
throttle while the cutter is engaged, it makes a wider slot and the
biscuits don't fit as well.
--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:41:40 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Larry Jaques" wrote:
>>
>> Hey, that's what my $24 HF bisquicker sounds like. I should throw
>> some
>> thrust washers in there to take up the slack. If I let off the
>> throttle while the cutter is engaged, it makes a wider slot and the
>> biscuits don't fit as well.
>---------------------------------------
>
>IOW it's a typical POS from HF.
Or PC anymore, evidently. :-(
"Dayvo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Funny, I have a DeWalt too but never use it. I also feel like selling it
> all the time but never do. It sounds much better if you hook it up to a
> shop vac. All plate joiners I've tried have the same motor/gear grinding
> noise.
>
> I've had the PC, Lamello and DeWalt but never got decent results with any
> of them.
Really? I'd be *very* interested in your opinion of why the results with
the Lamelo weren't any better than those of the (generally accepted) lower
quality units.