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Bill

04/06/2012 10:20 PM

Impact driver Drill/Driver Kits


I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit

It's practically like getting 2 drills in one.

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-26618-01-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Impact/dp/B003HIWR12/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=ICST0EHPTYQGR&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4

It comes with 2 batteries (overkill for me).


Then there is the corded model: Makita 6952.

http://www.amazon.com/Makita-6952-2-3-Impact-Driver/dp/B000140B4A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2HZCJYS6OFWEZ&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4

From what I understand, the only corded impact driver available.


A week ago, I could not even explain why I might want an "impact driver"!


Being the big spender, I came home from Menards with Bosch 24-tooth 7
1/4" "Framing" blade to try out, and the free (after rebate) T-shirt! :
)

Now, who was it who is to blame for getting me started learning about
"impact drivers"? : )

Bill


This topic has 24 replies

Ll

Leon

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

09/06/2012 4:12 PM

On 6/9/2012 2:58 AM, Bill wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Puckdropper wrote:
>>
>>> I'd suggest looking for a two-tool kit. That way, you can chuck a drill
>>> bit in one and a driver bit in the other and just swap tools. It really
>>> is an efficient way to work. One thing to watch out for is sometimes the
>>> kits have the same drill or driver as the tool alone but it's only a few
>>> dollars more than just the tool.
>>
>> I think Amazon started a $40 off sale on $200 Bosch Products today, and
>> Bosche is offering 2 free batteries:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GT0IXO/ref=ox_ya_os_product
>>
>> So I ordered the 2 piece set above for a final price of $198, and will
>> get *4* batteries in all. The batteries sell for $50, so it's
>> complicated, but it's almost like getting two drills free! : )
>>
>> I figure if I wear out 1 pair of batteries, I'll have a backup
>> pair--extending the life of the product.
>>
>> Cheers, and thanks!
>>
>> Bill
>
> I received the Bosch kit today. Here is a quick comment:
>
> The Bosch impact driver can seat a 3.5" deck screw into a 4by4 (no
> predrill), remove and reseat it anew, and remove it and the screw looks
> not too much worse for wear. It works for building workbenches too! :)

Good golley I should hope so, My 12 volt Makita impact will do the
same with 4", 5/16" lag bolts. My T15 Festool drill will sink those
screws as fast and or as slow as you want, Slow equals more control.





>
> The new Bosch drill works better than my old cheap cordless (I'm sure
> it's the faster speed). I was using the same 3/16" drill bit that I have
> been using this week before I received the new drill. I haven't tried
> the lower speed higher torque setting except I noticed that it appears
> to work.
>
> Count me completely satisfied! Amazon must have sold a few more of the
> kits because I see they currently seem to be out of inventory. I think
> that the sales extend until Father's Day in case that is helpful to anyone.

Good for you Bill, Enjoy!

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 12:54 PM

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> needed a D handled unit with a side handle also.
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Puckdropper

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 2:44 AM

Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

>
> I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
> Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit
>
> It's practically like getting 2 drills in one.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-26618-01-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Impact/dp/B003
> HIWR12/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=ICST0EHPTYQGR&colid=2VMX7X
> EQ4VJA4
>
> It comes with 2 batteries (overkill for me).
>
>
> Then there is the corded model: Makita 6952.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Makita-6952-2-3-Impact-Driver/dp/B000140B4A/ref=w
> l_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2HZCJYS6OFWEZ&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4
>
> From what I understand, the only corded impact driver available.
>
>
> A week ago, I could not even explain why I might want an "impact
> driver"!
>
>
> Being the big spender, I came home from Menards with Bosch 24-tooth 7
> 1/4" "Framing" blade to try out, and the free (after rebate) T-shirt!
> : )
>
> Now, who was it who is to blame for getting me started learning about
> "impact drivers"? : )
>
> Bill
>

We're good at spending everyone else's money here, and most people
generally are happy with the new tool (but not necessarily the
expendature.) *g*

I'd suggest looking for a two-tool kit. That way, you can chuck a drill
bit in one and a driver bit in the other and just swap tools. It really
is an efficient way to work. One thing to watch out for is sometimes the
kits have the same drill or driver as the tool alone but it's only a few
dollars more than just the tool.

You do need two batteries. The battery will die just when there's 1 or 2
screws left to drive to finish the project. Two batteries lets you
finish the project. (I don't care if you have a 5 minute charger,
swapping batteries between drill/driver is faster.)

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

04/06/2012 10:04 PM

On 6/4/2012 9:20 PM, Bill wrote:
>
> I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
> Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit
>
> It's practically like getting 2 drills in one.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-26618-01-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Impact/dp/B003HIWR12/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=ICST0EHPTYQGR&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4
>
>
> It comes with 2 batteries (overkill for me).

Menard's has some damn fine sales on Bosch tools from time to time. The
quality is great and the prices (on sale) are not to be believed.

I had picked up several of their reconditioned tools through my brother
who is employed by another division of Robert Bosch. Even better prices.

This past weekend, SWMBO spotted a 18v 3/8" drill on sale for $99
(regular $149.00) that came with two li-ion batteries, case & charger
and a rebate in the form of TWO additional batteries by mail. So...
that gave me four batteries (already had another Bosch drill that takes
the same batteries), another drill and charger for... Hell, the
batteries alone sell for $80 each so $320 in batteries for $99...
What's not to like?

Went back to pick something up yesterday and spied another deal. 12v
li-ion drill/driver for $66. Yep... two batteries and charger that work
with my small impactor and multi-tool.

Oh yeah, Bosch offers these with their "Pro Vantage" warranty. The
whole kit and caboodle is warrantied for three years.


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

04/06/2012 11:25 PM

Bill" wrote:

> I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
>Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit
-----------------------
It's a deal if you need it.

OTOH, if you are just window shopping...................

Lew


Ll

Leon

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 9:07 AM

On 6/5/2012 2:10 AM, Bill wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Bill" wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
>>> Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit
>> -----------------------
>> It's a deal if you need it.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>
> Puck's suggestion about leaning towards the 2-piece kit seems like good
> advice. "Need" is relative. I have a 10-Amp (Dewalt) drill, and I'm
> getting better at using it to drive deck screws, but I better understand
> it's shortcomings (as a driver) too--especially if one needs to remove a
> screw that it has stripped. I wouldn't mind having a "good" cordless
> driver too, especially one with a clutch--which neither of the selection
> above have, I think (I could be wrong about the one in the 2-piece kit).
>
> Now that I think I am aware of what am impact driver can do for me, I'm
> interested and I'll be paying attention. The Bosch impact drill seems to
> get very good reviews. The newest one features a "4-pole" motor, which
> is supposedly an improvement on its predecessor. It appears that the
> patient buyer can get a deal in this market.
>
> Bill
>

The biggest advantage of most cordless drills and impacts over any
corded drill is the electronic brake, release the trigger and the driver
stops, instantly. No over driven screws.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

04/06/2012 11:01 PM

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:11:38 -0700, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>"Bill" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
>I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
>Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit
>
>It's practically like getting 2 drills in one.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-26618-01-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Impact/dp/B003HIWR12/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=ICST0EHPTYQGR&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4
>
>It comes with 2 batteries (overkill for me).

I have (and am selling) the 26614 kit. I went to the lithium for a
little bit lighter unit and the promised battery lifetime. The Bosch
doesn't show a bit of battery depletion in 4 years. I had a client
join me in building his deck and got to watch the Bosch keep right up
with the Makita 141 I replaced it with. I love both machines/kits.
http://tinyurl.com/6mq7h8o


>Then there is the corded model: Makita 6952.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Makita-6952-2-3-Impact-Driver/dp/B000140B4A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2HZCJYS6OFWEZ&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4
>
>From what I understand, the only corded impact driver available.
>============================================================================
>http://www.ebuild.com/manufacturer-list/tools--equipment/impact-driverswrenches/corded-impact-driverswrenches.hwx

Yeah, who wants a cord when you don't have to have one? These
Impactor thingies'll take LUG NUTS off, fer chrissake.


--
Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Ll

Leon

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 10:51 AM

On 6/5/2012 9:24 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Sorry Leon, but I don't agree.
> My older cordless didn't brake and it did not overdrive nor did my
> electric.

I was implying that a cordless has the advantage of stopping quickly
over a corded. I have never seen a cordless, 9.6 volt or larger that
did no have a brake of some kind, I am sure they exist.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

04/06/2012 10:11 PM



"Bill" wrote in message news:[email protected]...


I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit

It's practically like getting 2 drills in one.

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-26618-01-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Impact/dp/B003HIWR12/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=ICST0EHPTYQGR&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4

It comes with 2 batteries (overkill for me).


Then there is the corded model: Makita 6952.

http://www.amazon.com/Makita-6952-2-3-Impact-Driver/dp/B000140B4A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2HZCJYS6OFWEZ&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4

From what I understand, the only corded impact driver available.
============================================================================
http://www.ebuild.com/manufacturer-list/tools--equipment/impact-driverswrenches/corded-impact-driverswrenches.hwx

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 11:57 AM

The older ones did not all brake.



On 6/5/2012 11:51 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 6/5/2012 9:24 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Sorry Leon, but I don't agree.
>> My older cordless didn't brake and it did not overdrive nor did my
>> electric.
>
> I was implying that a cordless has the advantage of stopping quickly
> over a corded. I have never seen a cordless, 9.6 volt or larger that did
> no have a brake of some kind, I am sure they exist.
>

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

03/08/2012 7:32 PM

On 8/3/2012 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>
>> I think Amazon started a $40 off sale on $200 Bosch Products today, and
>> Bosche is offering 2 free batteries:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/...
>>
>> So I ordered the 2 piece set above for a final price of $198, and will
>> get *4* batteries in all. The batteries sell for $50, so it's
>> complicated, but it's almost like getting two drills free! : )
>>
>> I figure if I wear out 1 pair of batteries, I'll have a backup
>> pair--extending the life of the product.
>>
>> Cheers, and thanks!
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> About 6 weeks since I mailed in the rebate form to Bosch, I received a
> letter from them today saying due to "overwhelming response", it will be
> another 120 to 160 days before they send my "free" batteries.
>
> I find this to be rather mediocre. Both their letter and their online
> customer service representative emphasizing that the batteries were
> *free*. I politely disagreed and typed "They were not free". They
> indicated that it said "free with purchase". I typed "I made the
> purchase, and I made the purchase because of the battery rebate".
>
> At least my rebate form didn't get "lost in the mail". However, I did
> not expect Bosch to make a contract with me that they couldn't keep. I
> am not an expert on rebate law, but, IMO, I would say that it is what
> they did.
>
> If you received the same letter, at least you know you are not alone!
> If you received batteries, then I'm not talking with you today! : )
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
For you this is not a bad thing.
That means your batteries will be out of phase with the others. They
will be sending you fresh new batteries. And all of your batteries won't
die at the same time.


Hang in there with patience.
You probably don't need 4 batteries right now. And you will be the
beneficiary.

BB

Bill

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 12:19 AM

Puckdropper wrote:
> Bill<[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
>> Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit
>>
>> It's practically like getting 2 drills in one.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-26618-01-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Impact/dp/B003
>> HIWR12/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=ICST0EHPTYQGR&colid=2VMX7X
>> EQ4VJA4
>>
>> It comes with 2 batteries (overkill for me).
>>
>>
>> Then there is the corded model: Makita 6952.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Makita-6952-2-3-Impact-Driver/dp/B000140B4A/ref=w
>> l_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2HZCJYS6OFWEZ&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4
>>
>> From what I understand, the only corded impact driver available.
>>
>>
>> A week ago, I could not even explain why I might want an "impact
>> driver"!
>>
>>
>> Being the big spender, I came home from Menards with Bosch 24-tooth 7
>> 1/4" "Framing" blade to try out, and the free (after rebate) T-shirt!
>> : )
>>
>> Now, who was it who is to blame for getting me started learning about
>> "impact drivers"? : )
>>
>> Bill
>>
>
> We're good at spending everyone else's money here, and most people
> generally are happy with the new tool (but not necessarily the
> expendature.) *g*
>
> I'd suggest looking for a two-tool kit. That way, you can chuck a drill
> bit in one and a driver bit in the other and just swap tools. It really
> is an efficient way to work.

Yes, I've been doing a lot of swapping of 3 bits between 2 drills (one a
real cheapy), and I'm convinced that an extra drill wouldn't go to
waste! I learned the same principle a while back for routers.

Cheers,
Bill




One thing to watch out for is sometimes the
> kits have the same drill or driver as the tool alone but it's only a few
> dollars more than just the tool.
>
> You do need two batteries. The battery will die just when there's 1 or 2
> screws left to drive to finish the project. Two batteries lets you
> finish the project. (I don't care if you have a 5 minute charger,
> swapping batteries between drill/driver is faster.)
>
> Puckdropper

BB

Bill

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 12:55 AM

Puckdropper wrote:
> Bill<[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
>> Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit
>>
>> It's practically like getting 2 drills in one.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-26618-01-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Impact/dp/B003
>> HIWR12/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=ICST0EHPTYQGR&colid=2VMX7X
>> EQ4VJA4
>>
>> It comes with 2 batteries (overkill for me).
>>
>>
>> Then there is the corded model: Makita 6952.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Makita-6952-2-3-Impact-Driver/dp/B000140B4A/ref=w
>> l_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2HZCJYS6OFWEZ&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4
>>
>> From what I understand, the only corded impact driver available.
>>
>>
>> A week ago, I could not even explain why I might want an "impact
>> driver"!
>>
>>
>> Being the big spender, I came home from Menards with Bosch 24-tooth 7
>> 1/4" "Framing" blade to try out, and the free (after rebate) T-shirt!
>> : )
>>
>> Now, who was it who is to blame for getting me started learning about
>> "impact drivers"? : )
>>
>> Bill
>>
>
> We're good at spending everyone else's money here, and most people
> generally are happy with the new tool (but not necessarily the
> expendature.) *g*
>
> I'd suggest looking for a two-tool kit. That way, you can chuck a drill
> bit in one and a driver bit in the other and just swap tools.

I think you are right. I was just looking at this.

Bosch 18V Litheon Impactor & Drill/Driver CLPK232-181

It's impact driver appears to have the same perfomance as the other
Bosch one I mentioned above (rated at 1500 in-pounds). In case anyone
is interested, the previous single drill/impact driver also has a
low-speed setting (3-modes in all).

I think that the 3-mode drill above violates Leon's "KISS" principle (too).

Bill



It really
> is an efficient way to work. One thing to watch out for is sometimes the
> kits have the same drill or driver as the tool alone but it's only a few
> dollars more than just the tool.
>
> You do need two batteries. The battery will die just when there's 1 or 2
> screws left to drive to finish the project. Two batteries lets you
> finish the project. (I don't care if you have a 5 minute charger,
> swapping batteries between drill/driver is faster.)
>
> Puckdropper

BB

Bill

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 1:05 AM

Do you remember looking at how fast we could
seat screws by hand as some sort of "rite of passage"
into manhood?

I mean there was some pride behind the blisters, right?

Now, it's just Zip, Ziip, Zeep!! : )

Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 3:10 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Bill" wrote:
>
>> I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
>> Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit
> -----------------------
> It's a deal if you need it.
>
> Lew
>

Puck's suggestion about leaning towards the 2-piece kit seems like good
advice. "Need" is relative. I have a 10-Amp (Dewalt) drill, and I'm
getting better at using it to drive deck screws, but I better understand
it's shortcomings (as a driver) too--especially if one needs to remove a
screw that it has stripped. I wouldn't mind having a "good" cordless
driver too, especially one with a clutch--which neither of the selection
above have, I think (I could be wrong about the one in the 2-piece kit).

Now that I think I am aware of what am impact driver can do for me, I'm
interested and I'll be paying attention. The Bosch impact drill seems to
get very good reviews. The newest one features a "4-pole" motor, which
is supposedly an improvement on its predecessor. It appears that the
patient buyer can get a deal in this market.

Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 8:43 AM

Puckdropper wrote:

> I'd suggest looking for a two-tool kit. That way, you can chuck a drill
> bit in one and a driver bit in the other and just swap tools. It really
> is an efficient way to work. One thing to watch out for is sometimes the
> kits have the same drill or driver as the tool alone but it's only a few
> dollars more than just the tool.

I think Amazon started a $40 off sale on $200 Bosch Products today, and
Bosche is offering 2 free batteries:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GT0IXO/ref=ox_ya_os_product

So I ordered the 2 piece set above for a final price of $198, and will
get *4* batteries in all. The batteries sell for $50, so it's
complicated, but it's almost like getting two drills free! : )

I figure if I wear out 1 pair of batteries, I'll have a backup
pair--extending the life of the product.

Cheers, and thanks!

Bill





>
> You do need two batteries. The battery will die just when there's 1 or 2
> screws left to drive to finish the project. Two batteries lets you
> finish the project. (I don't care if you have a 5 minute charger,
> swapping batteries between drill/driver is faster.)
>
> Puckdropper

SB

"Steve B"

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 11:45 AM


"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I noticed that Menards has this impact driver kit on sale for $229.
> Bosch 26618-01 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Impact Drill/Driver Kit
>
> It's practically like getting 2 drills in one.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-26618-01-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Impact/dp/B003HIWR12/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=ICST0EHPTYQGR&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4
>
> It comes with 2 batteries (overkill for me).
>
>
> Then there is the corded model: Makita 6952.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Makita-6952-2-3-Impact-Driver/dp/B000140B4A/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2HZCJYS6OFWEZ&colid=2VMX7XEQ4VJA4
>
> From what I understand, the only corded impact driver available.
>
>
> A week ago, I could not even explain why I might want an "impact driver"!
>
>
> Being the big spender, I came home from Menards with Bosch 24-tooth 7
> 1/4" "Framing" blade to try out, and the free (after rebate) T-shirt! : )
>
> Now, who was it who is to blame for getting me started learning about
> "impact drivers"? : )
>
> Bill

I got the DeWalt twofer with two batteries and a charger, and luxurious
black plastic carrying case for $179, which I thought was a deal. I like it
a lot.

Steve

BB

Bill

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

09/06/2012 3:58 AM

Bill wrote:
> Puckdropper wrote:
>
>> I'd suggest looking for a two-tool kit. That way, you can chuck a drill
>> bit in one and a driver bit in the other and just swap tools. It really
>> is an efficient way to work. One thing to watch out for is sometimes the
>> kits have the same drill or driver as the tool alone but it's only a few
>> dollars more than just the tool.
>
> I think Amazon started a $40 off sale on $200 Bosch Products today, and
> Bosche is offering 2 free batteries:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GT0IXO/ref=ox_ya_os_product
>
> So I ordered the 2 piece set above for a final price of $198, and will
> get *4* batteries in all. The batteries sell for $50, so it's
> complicated, but it's almost like getting two drills free! : )
>
> I figure if I wear out 1 pair of batteries, I'll have a backup
> pair--extending the life of the product.
>
> Cheers, and thanks!
>
> Bill

I received the Bosch kit today. Here is a quick comment:

The Bosch impact driver can seat a 3.5" deck screw into a 4by4 (no
predrill), remove and reseat it anew, and remove it and the screw looks
not too much worse for wear. It works for building workbenches too! :)

The new Bosch drill works better than my old cheap cordless (I'm sure
it's the faster speed). I was using the same 3/16" drill bit that I
have been using this week before I received the new drill. I haven't
tried the lower speed higher torque setting except I noticed that it
appears to work.

Count me completely satisfied! Amazon must have sold a few more of the
kits because I see they currently seem to be out of inventory. I think
that the sales extend until Father's Day in case that is helpful to anyone.

Bill


Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

09/06/2012 11:15 AM

BTW, if anyone is still looking, Home Depot has a pretty great deal on a
Ridgid Drill/Driver combo.
RIDGID 18-Volt X4 Hyper Lithium Ion 2-Pieces Cordless Combo Kit R9600
$179

<http://www.homedepot.com/buy/ridgid-18-volt-x4-hyper-lithium-ion-2-pieces-cordless-combo-kit-396609.html>


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-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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[email protected]
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Bill

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

09/06/2012 6:40 PM

Leon wrote:
> On 6/9/2012 2:58 AM, Bill wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> Puckdropper wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd suggest looking for a two-tool kit. That way, you can chuck a drill
>>>> bit in one and a driver bit in the other and just swap tools. It really
>>>> is an efficient way to work. One thing to watch out for is sometimes
>>>> the
>>>> kits have the same drill or driver as the tool alone but it's only a
>>>> few
>>>> dollars more than just the tool.
>>>
>>> I think Amazon started a $40 off sale on $200 Bosch Products today, and
>>> Bosche is offering 2 free batteries:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GT0IXO/ref=ox_ya_os_product
>>>
>>> So I ordered the 2 piece set above for a final price of $198, and will
>>> get *4* batteries in all. The batteries sell for $50, so it's
>>> complicated, but it's almost like getting two drills free! : )
>>>
>>> I figure if I wear out 1 pair of batteries, I'll have a backup
>>> pair--extending the life of the product.
>>>
>>> Cheers, and thanks!
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> I received the Bosch kit today. Here is a quick comment:
>>
>> The Bosch impact driver can seat a 3.5" deck screw into a 4by4 (no
>> predrill), remove and reseat it anew, and remove it and the screw looks
>> not too much worse for wear. It works for building workbenches too! :)
>
> Good golley I should hope so, My 12 volt Makita impact will do the
> same with 4", 5/16" lag bolts. My T15 Festool drill will sink those
> screws as fast and or as slow as you want, Slow equals more control.

Yes, it's no difference to me whether I seat them in 8 seconds or 2
seconds; I spend minutes marking where they are going to go. Even
working quickly, I'm not over-driving them like I sometimes did with my
10-Amp drill drill. As swingman (I think) said, the impact driver
affords better control.

I'll write the following for the sake of people who don't know (like I
didn't 2-weeks ago). I no longer have to line up directly behind the
drill/driver and keep a lot of weight behind it. I'm still using 2
hands, but with the impact drill I can surely set a screw in a much more
casual posture--which is convenient for those "hard to reach" spots.
And, the chances of being able to quickly and easily remove a screw
driven with the impact driver is greatly improved. Hey, and no tail! : )

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

11/06/2012 12:46 PM

On 6/9/12 11:15 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> BTW, if anyone is still looking, Home Depot has a pretty great deal on a
> Ridgid Drill/Driver combo.
> RIDGID 18-Volt X4 Hyper Lithium Ion 2-Pieces Cordless Combo Kit R9600
> $179
>
> <http://www.homedepot.com/buy/ridgid-18-volt-x4-hyper-lithium-ion-2-pieces-cordless-combo-kit-396609.html>
>
>


I just returned from HD with this package.
The batteries are charging and it will get some good use, today.
I will report back with a full... um,.. report.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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Bill

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

03/08/2012 7:20 PM

Bill wrote:

> I think Amazon started a $40 off sale on $200 Bosch Products today, and
> Bosche is offering 2 free batteries:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/...
>
> So I ordered the 2 piece set above for a final price of $198, and will
> get *4* batteries in all. The batteries sell for $50, so it's
> complicated, but it's almost like getting two drills free! : )
>
> I figure if I wear out 1 pair of batteries, I'll have a backup
> pair--extending the life of the product.
>
> Cheers, and thanks!
>
> Bill


About 6 weeks since I mailed in the rebate form to Bosch, I received a
letter from them today saying due to "overwhelming response", it will be
another 120 to 160 days before they send my "free" batteries.

I find this to be rather mediocre. Both their letter and their online
customer service representative emphasizing that the batteries were
*free*. I politely disagreed and typed "They were not free". They
indicated that it said "free with purchase". I typed "I made the
purchase, and I made the purchase because of the battery rebate".

At least my rebate form didn't get "lost in the mail". However, I did
not expect Bosch to make a contract with me that they couldn't keep. I
am not an expert on rebate law, but, IMO, I would say that it is what
they did.

If you received the same letter, at least you know you are not alone!
If you received batteries, then I'm not talking with you today! : )

Bill




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Bill

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

03/08/2012 7:50 PM

tiredofspam wrote:
> On 8/3/2012 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>
>>> I think Amazon started a $40 off sale on $200 Bosch Products today, and
>>> Bosche is offering 2 free batteries:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/...
>>>
>>> So I ordered the 2 piece set above for a final price of $198, and will
>>> get *4* batteries in all. The batteries sell for $50, so it's
>>> complicated, but it's almost like getting two drills free! : )
>>>
>>> I figure if I wear out 1 pair of batteries, I'll have a backup
>>> pair--extending the life of the product.
>>>
>>> Cheers, and thanks!
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>> About 6 weeks since I mailed in the rebate form to Bosch, I received a
>> letter from them today saying due to "overwhelming response", it will be
>> another 120 to 160 days before they send my "free" batteries.
>>
>> I find this to be rather mediocre. Both their letter and their online
>> customer service representative emphasizing that the batteries were
>> *free*. I politely disagreed and typed "They were not free". They
>> indicated that it said "free with purchase". I typed "I made the
>> purchase, and I made the purchase because of the battery rebate".
>>
>> At least my rebate form didn't get "lost in the mail". However, I did
>> not expect Bosch to make a contract with me that they couldn't keep. I
>> am not an expert on rebate law, but, IMO, I would say that it is what
>> they did.
>>
>> If you received the same letter, at least you know you are not alone!
>> If you received batteries, then I'm not talking with you today! : )
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> For you this is not a bad thing.
> That means your batteries will be out of phase with the others. They
> will be sending you fresh new batteries. And all of your batteries won't
> die at the same time.
>
>
> Hang in there with patience.
> You probably don't need 4 batteries right now. And you will be the
> beneficiary.


I mainly wanted to share my experience--just one small voice trying to
combat what I viewed as unprofessional corporate conduct.

Thanks. You are right, I don't need all of the batteries right now.

Bill

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Bill on 04/06/2012 10:20 PM

05/06/2012 10:24 AM

Sorry Leon, but I don't agree.
My older cordless didn't brake and it did not overdrive nor did my electric.

The biggest advantage of a cordless is just getting the job done without
a cord. Plus the clutch. I set it lower than needed when starting out,
no overdrives or cam outs until I know how hard the wood is for the
screws being driven.

Also the power of my first 18v nearly snapped my wrist off compared with
an electric or my former 12v. For electric to get that powerful you
needed a D handled unit with a side handle also.

Now the drills are just powerful...


> The biggest advantage of most cordless drills and impacts over any
> corded drill is the electronic brake, release the trigger and the driver
> stops, instantly. No over driven screws.


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