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Colonel Andy

12/05/2004 7:01 PM

Cast Iron vs Stamped Steel TS Wings

Is the a real justification on the $150 price difference in cast wings
over stamped wings on the JET 10" contractors saw?

Been waiting 2 weeks and the cast iron setup has yet to ship, wheras
the stamped steel can ship tomorrow

Thanks for anyones input


This topic has 9 replies

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"Preston Andreas"

in reply to Colonel Andy on 12/05/2004 7:01 PM

12/05/2004 11:18 PM

It makes the contractor saw a lot heavier which is bad if you need to move
it around and good for damping vibration. Also, the stamped wings bend
fairly easily.

Preston

"Colonel Andy" <iam@here> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is the a real justification on the $150 price difference in cast wings
> over stamped wings on the JET 10" contractors saw?
>
> Been waiting 2 weeks and the cast iron setup has yet to ship, wheras
> the stamped steel can ship tomorrow
>
> Thanks for anyones input

Gg

"George"

in reply to Colonel Andy on 12/05/2004 7:01 PM

13/05/2004 7:53 AM

I've got stamped, work semi-regularly at school with cast. Not a bit of
difference in either, once adjusted, as the proliferation of router table
and MDF tables indicates. It's just support. Cast does make a better
benchtop, though.

Those who talk of "dampening vibration" have other issues, in my opinion. I
like the link belt to smooth the effects of the hanging motor and belt set,
but otherwise, a lump of iron placed on the stand should give you all if not
more of the benefits of "dampening" that cast iron wings do.

"Colonel Andy" <iam@here> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is the a real justification on the $150 price difference in cast wings
> over stamped wings on the JET 10" contractors saw?
>
> Been waiting 2 weeks and the cast iron setup has yet to ship, wheras
> the stamped steel can ship tomorrow
>
> Thanks for anyones input

MB

"Mike"

in reply to Colonel Andy on 12/05/2004 7:01 PM

13/05/2004 1:00 AM

Stamped wings work just fine, you will never know the difference, save your
money and buy another tool.


cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Mike" on 13/05/2004 1:00 AM

13/05/2004 10:27 AM

Bigmike responds:

>Stamped wings work just fine, you will never know the difference, save your
>money and buy another tool.

Yeah, you will notice the difference, but probably only after you've had the
tool for a time, gotten some experience, and had a chance to use both kinds of
extension. The extra mass of the cast iron helps dampen vibration enough so
that a properly tuned saw is even better for them---if sheetmetal were better,
you'd find sheetmetal on all table saws, because it is considerably cheaper to
manufacture.

Properly ground cast iron extensions are also a lot easier to set up and level
with the main table than are sheetmetal tables. (Poorly milled cast iron
extensions are close to impossible to get right, though.)

Charlie Self
"In our civilization, and under our republican form of government, intelligence
is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of
office." Ambrose Bierce

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Colonel Andy

in reply to Colonel Andy on 12/05/2004 7:01 PM

13/05/2004 4:51 PM


Hmmmm .... 50 for / 50 against

Went to the local (45 miles) Woodcraft and what do you know, they had
a cast iron setup, uhhhh... set up in the showroom, (only one in the
store), walked out with it @ $ 699 and will uhhh... get it set up
tonite.

Thanks to all for giving their opinions and reasonings.

Almost walked out with a "super saw" boxed @ $949 but now I can buy
something else w/ the money!

How come the money you weren't planning on spending all of a sudden
becomes "extra" to spend on somethng else?

(do I hear mortiser?) anyone? anyone? Bueller?

Thanks again

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Colonel Andy on 12/05/2004 7:01 PM

12/05/2004 11:58 PM

IMHO it is worth the $150 to not have to mount the stamped steel extensions.
Again, IIRC these have corner braces that you have to bolt up and use to
insure that the stamped extensions are flat. Basically you have to flatten
the stamped steel extensions with the brackets and keep it all flat while
tightening the bolts with this all hanging loosely from the table top.
The cast irons ones on the other hand simply bolt up with an occasional
piece of masking tape for shim stock.
Cast iron will dampen vibrations more than the stamped steel extensions but
will make the saw be heavier if you have to move the saw.



"Colonel Andy" <iam@here> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is the a real justification on the $150 price difference in cast wings
> over stamped wings on the JET 10" contractors saw?
>
> Been waiting 2 weeks and the cast iron setup has yet to ship, wheras
> the stamped steel can ship tomorrow
>
> Thanks for anyones input

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Colonel Andy on 12/05/2004 7:01 PM

14/05/2004 4:47 AM

RE: Subject

The mass of the ass always wins.

Get on with it.


--
Lew

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B a r r y

in reply to Colonel Andy on 12/05/2004 7:01 PM

13/05/2004 11:05 AM

On Wed, 12 May 2004 19:01:59 -0400, Colonel Andy <iam@here> wrote:

>Is the a real justification on the $150 price difference in cast wings
>over stamped wings on the JET 10" contractors saw?

I had stamped wings on my Jet CS, it was one of my reasons for selling
it after 7 years of use. The stamped wings add much needed weight to
a contractors saw that won't travel, provide more flat space for
assembly, and are usually easier to align with the main table.

If I was moving the thing on a regular basis, I'd probably stay with
stamped wings.

Barry

JT

"Joe Tylicki"

in reply to Colonel Andy on 12/05/2004 7:01 PM

13/05/2004 10:50 PM

Wood Magazine just rated the Shop Fox mortiser the "best buy" at $230.

You still have $20 left.

Joe



>
> (do I hear mortiser?) anyone? anyone? Bueller?
>
> Thanks again


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