RH

"Rob H."

18/09/2008 4:21 AM

What is it? Set 250

I'll probably post the answers early tomorrow since I'll be away from my
computer most of the day.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


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Ww

Woodie

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

22/09/2008 1:12 PM

1416 - Festool Domino Prototype

NS

Ned Simmons

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 2:41 PM

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:21:34 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'll probably post the answers early tomorrow since I'll be away from my
>computer most of the day.
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>

1412. Manure spreader

1413. Perhaps there's a disc missing from the second rivet, in which
case it could be a knife sharpener. The discs in such a sharpener are
are very hard, which would explain why one broke.

--
Ned Simmons

rM

[email protected] (Matthew Russotto)

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 2:16 PM

1411: Part of Ye Olde Trailer Hitch. The pins to lock the trailer in
place.
1412: Conveyor belt
1413: Wine foil cutter
1414: Watermelon juicer
1415: Primitive zip line slider
1416: Small hand drill with multiple bits. Though that fails to
explain the set screw.

DM

Don Murray

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

20/09/2008 5:09 PM

E Z,

Here is a link to a pic in the Lineman's handbook.

http://murrayranch.com/9%2020%202008%20020.jpg

Also here is a link to a current seller.

http://www.wescodirect.com/direct/Products/ProductListDetail.aspx?pik=82983&productId=82983

Don


E Z Peaces wrote:
> Don Murray wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>> I'll probably post the answers early tomorrow since I'll be away from
>>> my computer most of the day.
>>>
>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> 1415 Is a Guy Fixture. It would be bolted to the pole through the
>> hole in the thickest part, with a reinforced, curved washer (p-144) on
>> the back. A lag screw in the bottom hole and the down guy behind the
>> ears.
>>
>> Don
>>
>
> I'm interested but don't yet understand. I'd love to see a picture.

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 2:22 PM

Seems more like 1416 is a gang drill for mortising, and the set screw is
for mounting the thing on a drill press so it doesn't turn with the
applied torque to the top spindle.

I'm a bit confused by the overlap of the bits, but the photo may hide
the clearance issues.

LLoyd




kk

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 3:18 AM

On Sep 17, 10:21=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'll probably post the answers early tomorrow since I'll be away from my
> computer most of the day.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

1416. I think it's for boring lock mortices in doors for skeleton
locks. This is a modern one.
http://www.nextag.com/Porter-Cable-513-Heavy-69287105/prices-html?nxtg=3D60=
190a24052b-165CFAE98FE95A6D
This type of lock.http://www.vandykes.com/product/02274844/
Karl

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 6:06 AM

1412 Treadmill. One horsepower. (or Ox power)

1413 Guess... Knife sharpener? Possibly working with the missing, similar
size disc on the adjacent rivet.

1416 Mortoise drill.


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'll probably post the answers early tomorrow since I'll be away from my
> computer most of the day.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

dn

dpb

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 2:41 PM

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> Seems more like 1416 is a gang drill for mortising, and the set screw is
> for mounting the thing on a drill press so it doesn't turn with the
> applied torque to the top spindle.

Yes...

> I'm a bit confused by the overlap of the bits, but the photo may hide
> the clearance issues.

Somebody else's response addresses that--they rotate in opposite
directions so they don't interfere--like mixer beaters. The other three
are geared from the one so they alternate direction of rotation.
--

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 7:14 PM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 1412 Treadmill. One horsepower. (or Ox power)
>
> 1413 Guess... Knife sharpener? Possibly working with the missing, similar
> size disc on the adjacent rivet.
>

Good guess, a knife sharperner with half of it missing is correct.


Rob



RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 7:18 PM

> 1415) What is the material? If it is Bakelite or some other plastic,
> or (perhaps) ceramic, then it might be an insulator for holding
> a splice between two sections of wire.


The owner says it appears to be iron, no answer yet for this one.


Rob

dn

dpb

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 7:11 PM

Rob H. wrote:

Haven't seen all the responses but a couple on 1412 are looking at the
power as input, not output--it's a four-legged-powered treadmill for
driving stationary equipment.

--

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 9:52 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> I'll probably post the answers early tomorrow since I'll be away from my
> computer most of the day.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1411 - One way locking clip. Looks like the ones used on the cattle
stalls in the old barn I worked in as a kid. It had a knob with a hole
in it that those pins went into and they were tapered to prevent them
from releasing easily.

1412 - Dog, Goat or similar sized animal treadmill. Could be used with
rowdy children as well....

1413 - Looks like an early "Do it all" kitchen tool. The wheel looks
like it could be a forerunner of the multiple disc knife sharpener, just
missing one wheel.

1414 - Coconut husker???

1415 - Looks like a guy wire clip?

1416 - If they all turn when the input shaft rotates I would guess it is
an OLD mortising attachment.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

19/09/2008 4:59 AM



> 1414 - Coconut husker???


This one is actually a corn sheller, it's amazing how many different tools
were made for this purpose. The rest of the answers except for the
unidentified piece can be found here:

http://answers250k.blogspot.com/


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

20/09/2008 8:54 PM


"Don Murray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>E Z,
>
> Here is a link to a pic in the Lineman's handbook.
>
> http://murrayranch.com/9%2020%202008%20020.jpg
>
> Also here is a link to a current seller.
>
> http://www.wescodirect.com/direct/Products/ProductListDetail.aspx?pik=82983&productId=82983
>
> Don
>


Thanks Don! I just updated the answer page and included this link to the
patent:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=GYcnAAAAEBAJ&dq=re18613


Rob

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

22/09/2008 12:25 AM

Rob H. wrote:
>
>
>> 1414 - Coconut husker???
>
>
> This one is actually a corn sheller, it's amazing how many different
> tools were made for this purpose. The rest of the answers except for
> the unidentified piece can be found here:
>
> http://answers250k.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

Yeah, it seems everyone had their own "better way" of getting the
kernels off the cob.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 5:54 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

My guesses...

1411 - Looks vaguely familiar; is this some sort of a quick-connect
fitting for some piece of tack? (I suspect maybe E. Knight has one
illustrated somewhere...but I'm not about to scan randomly to find it.)

1412 - A (dual?) horse-power, wherein the horse(s) walked upon the now
battered wooden conveyor belt treadmill to drive machinery. (I suppose
this one may have been used by an ox or other similarly large animal,
but the concept remains the same.)

1413 - Just a wild guess, but perhaps a crimper/sealer for closing tin
cans...would seem to go with the rather culinary aspects of many of the
other visible tools.

1414 - Possibly the press was used in coopering, maybe to force the
hoops in place over the barrel or to mount the end lid. Such a
collection of axes, adzes, froes, etc. would befit a cooper or similar
tradesman, although the neat and organized tool rack seems a mite
unlikely to me in most cases (but personalities vary).

1415 - Looks to me sort of like a flagpole holder for the side of a
building or pole, but I doubt that's the correct answer!

1416 - multiple drill to rough out mortises, either for door locks or
for joinery. Presumably, the resulting mortise would need to be cleaned
up manually with a chisel. Since it's not adjustable, I'm guessing it's
for mortise locks in doors, and thus would be used by a factory or
someone who installs a lot of doors.

Now to see the other thoughts.

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

DM

Don Murray

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

20/09/2008 12:08 PM



Rob H. wrote:
> I'll probably post the answers early tomorrow since I'll be away from my
> computer most of the day.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1415 Is a Guy Fixture. It would be bolted to the pole through the
hole in the thickest part, with a reinforced, curved washer (p-144) on
the back. A lag screw in the bottom hole and the down guy behind the ears.

Don

EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

20/09/2008 3:56 PM

Don Murray wrote:
>
>
> Rob H. wrote:
>> I'll probably post the answers early tomorrow since I'll be away from
>> my computer most of the day.
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
> 1415 Is a Guy Fixture. It would be bolted to the pole through the
> hole in the thickest part, with a reinforced, curved washer (p-144) on
> the back. A lag screw in the bottom hole and the down guy behind the ears.
>
> Don
>

I'm interested but don't yet understand. I'd love to see a picture.

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

18/09/2008 6:19 PM

On 2008-09-18, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'll probably post the answers early tomorrow since I'll be away from my
> computer most of the day.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

O.K. Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

1411) Looks like something designed to hold a leather strap
folded over and stitched or riveted. Pinch the ears, slip the
loop in, and release the ears to let it grasp.

It would be stronger if there were a hole in the wood to which
it is mounted behind the hole in the forging, and the strap came
through the hole, so it would pull the sides towards the
support. Though it looks pretty strong even with the pull the
other way.

1412) This looks like a pre neoprene belting form of conveyer belt.
The wood boards circulate around the ends and between them.
These are very worn, and I suspect that have very little service
life until new boards are needed.

At a guess -- it is to move something like hay up the ramp and
into the back of a wagon -- except that the location of the
crank handle and wheel are quite awkward for that. Since the
crank and its associated parts are a separate assembly, perhaps
it has been set in place backwards -- just for demonstration
purposes?

1413) Functions? The wheel I think is a knife blade sharpener. Other
functions include:

Jar lid opener
Bottle cap lifter
screwdriver
hammer
corkscrew
can opener

1414) This looks like a tool for installing corks in wine bottles or
the like.

1415) What is the material? If it is Bakelite or some other plastic,
or (perhaps) ceramic, then it might be an insulator for holding
a splice between two sections of wire.

1416) Obviously an assembly for use in a drill press to drill four
overlapping holes at once in wood -- perhaps to start the cavity
for a mortise door lock.

The hole to the left with the square-headed setscrew holds a rod
which reaches back to rest against the column of the drill press
to prevent the whole assembly from turning.

It is obvious that alternate drills turn in opposite directions,
or they would hit each other given the close spacing.

The shaft appears to go straight through to the longest drill
bit, and it must have a gear around it to couple to the other
drill bits -- which forces them to turn in opposite directions,
given the limited thickness of the housing.

====================

Now to see what others have answered.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/09/2008 4:21 AM

19/09/2008 12:10 AM

On 2008-09-18, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> Seems more like 1416 is a gang drill for mortising, and the set screw is
> for mounting the thing on a drill press so it doesn't turn with the
> applied torque to the top spindle.
>
> I'm a bit confused by the overlap of the bits, but the photo may hide
> the clearance issues.

Look closely at the bits themselves. It is obvious that
alternate bits turn CCW or CW so they don't hit each other. Think of it
like an eggbeater which has two rotating parts which intermesh.

And they are *designed* to overlap so the holes join.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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