The only place I have to do my woodwork is a small garage where a car
has to be kept every night.
There's no spare floor space, so all tools and other devices need to
be hung on the wall. For a work bench I'm currently using a piece of
laminated worktop with formica on top, thick chipboard underneath and
hardwood edging. This I place on trestles for working purposes, then
it goes back on the wall when I'm finished.
What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
suggestions where I might find one?
On 17 Mar, 13:44, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message .
>
> > What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
> > mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
> > the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
> > suggestions where I might find one?
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=31144&cat=1,41659,41661...
It's a nice vice and I might buy it. The only thing that deters me a
little is the fact that the top of the vice is above the top of the
table. I suppose this may be necessary for clamping the vice to the
table. I'm used to working with a vice that's flush with the bench
top.
Shriv
On 17 Mar, 13:13, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > The only place I have to do my woodwork is a small garage where a car
> > has to be kept every night.
> > There's no spare floor space, so all tools and other devices need to
> > be hung on the wall. For a work bench I'm currently using a piece of
> > laminated worktop with formica on top, thick chipboard underneath and
> > hardwood edging. This I place on trestles for working purposes, then
> > it goes back on the wall when I'm finished.
>
> > What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
> > mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
> > the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
> > suggestions where I might find one?
>
> For a bench such as you describe alcohol would be a good vice--it sounds
> a bit unstable for sex.
Not only that but alcohol would be nearer the top of the list, simply
because I have bottle.
> Oh, you meant a _vise_.
Yes, that too.
> Have you considered making the vise removable so that you can hang it on
> the wall separately? A vise such as the Parrot Visehttp://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4767can be very
> convenient and can be attached to a board that can then be clamped down
> onto the bench. You could also go with a regular machinist's vise and
> do the same thing. Avoid like the plague the cheap clamp-on type such
> ashttp://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=3855--they won't stay
> put.
Another nice vice in the first link but it's also high above the
table.
Shriv
On 17 Mar, 19:28, Billy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > The only place I have to do my woodwork is a small garage where a car
> > has to be kept every night.
> > There's no spare floor space, so all tools and other devices need to
> > be hung on the wall. For a work bench I'm currently using a piece of
> > laminated worktop with formica on top, thick chipboard underneath and
> > hardwood edging. This I place on trestles for working purposes, then
> > it goes back on the wall when I'm finished.
>
> > What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
> > mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
> > the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
> > suggestions where I might find one?
>
> Something to think about is a portable workbench like the Workmate.
> I find mine extremely useful. It has a large vise (can be used
> horizontally and vertically) and it is easy to add additional vise
> capability by using hand screws and clamps. I use it for sawing
> (power and hand), chiseling, routing, holding a mortising jig and
> other uses. I have two large workbenches and the Workmate and I
> use the Workmate all the time. You can take it anywhere. When not
> in use it folds up almost flat (maybe 9 inches) and can be hung on a
> wall. I guess the Workmate has limitations but if I were short on space
> it is absolutely the first thing I would buy.
I have 2 Workmates and 2 cheap workmate clones. They're invaluable,
though sometimes, relatively large panels seem easier to work with on
a bench with a larger surface.
Shriv
On 17 Mar, 15:07, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> Being the prudent steward of my available resources that I am, a
> planking vise comes to mind.
>
> A piece of 2x6, a couple of tapered wedges, a few bolts, and your done.
>
> Take a look in Fred Bingham's book, Practical Yacht Joinery" for details.
>
> Lew
I have the feeling that this is going to be my kind of vice.
Shriv
> > A piece of 2x6, a couple of tapered wedges, a few bolts, and your done.
>
> > Take a look in Fred Bingham's book, Practical Yacht Joinery" for details.
>
> > Lew
>
> I have the feeling that this is going to be my kind of vice.
>
> Shriv
I'd also highly recommend "The Workbench Book" by Tolpin - he
describes one type of wedge vise with tapered wedges that I've found
very handy. Might be similar to the one in the Yacht book, but the
workbench book is fun to read and has many other interesting ideas as
well.
You might also consider drilling some dog holes in your current sheet
of ply/portable bench; Lee Valley has something called a wonder dog or
wonder pup that might be useful if your work surface is pretty thick.
Good luck,
Andy
"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> |
> http://www.advmachinery.com/default.asp?pg=products&specific=joeqcqk0.
> |
> | Nice vise, but it ought to be for the price.
>
> Wow! I bought mine (with all of the accessories except the carrying
> case) at the Iowa State Fair for less than $100. It _is_ a good
> portable vise and I've been happy with mine, but I wouldn't be willing
> to pay the $350 Advanced Machinery is asking...
A fair or a woodworking show is the place to buy one of these. Almost every
woodworking show of decent size I've been to has one of these being
demonstrating and sold by someone. They've been around for a number of years
and well suited as a vice for multiple applications. However, they don't fit
the category of heavy duty or everyday use in my opinion.
<[email protected]> wrote in message .
>
> What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
> mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
> the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
> suggestions where I might find one?
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=31144&cat=1,41659,41661&ap=1
[email protected] wrote:
Being the prudent steward of my available resources that I am, a
planking vise comes to mind.
A piece of 2x6, a couple of tapered wedges, a few bolts, and your done.
Take a look in Fred Bingham's book, Practical Yacht Joinery" for details.
Lew
[email protected] wrote:
| The only place I have to do my woodwork is a small garage where a
| car has to be kept every night.
| There's no spare floor space, so all tools and other devices need to
| be hung on the wall. For a work bench I'm currently using a piece of
| laminated worktop with formica on top, thick chipboard underneath
| and hardwood edging. This I place on trestles for working purposes,
| then it goes back on the wall when I'm finished.
|
| What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with
| a mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space
| when the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and
| any suggestions where I might find one?
At http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/SH_Project.html (third picture up from
the bottom) is a portable vise that I've been using for a dozen or so
years. It does a whole bunch of tricks with the included attachments -
for example there're two parts that let you clamp a hand drill in
place and use the works as a mini-lathe, the jaws can be used
upside-down for planing or carving, and I dunno what all else.
I use it as a simple vise, and when I'm not using it it lives clamped
to a stud in the shop wall.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
J. Clarke wrote:
| That would be one of these I presume?
|
http://www.advmachinery.com/default.asp?pg=products&specific=joeqcqk0.
|
| Nice vise, but it ought to be for the price.
Wow! I bought mine (with all of the accessories except the carrying
case) at the Iowa State Fair for less than $100. It _is_ a good
portable vise and I've been happy with mine, but I wouldn't be willing
to pay the $350 Advanced Machinery is asking...
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
Morris Dovey wrote:
> | That would be one of these I presume?
> |
> http://www.advmachinery.com/default.asp?pg=products&specific=joeqcqk0.
> |
> | Nice vise, but it ought to be for the price.
They have been hustling that thing at every county fair, public hanging,
and pancake race they could find for years.
Think they even had a TV infomercial for a while.
As you note, very much overpriced and under peckered.
Lew
J. Clarke wrote:
>> What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
>> mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
>> the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
>> suggestions where I might find one?
>
> For a bench such as you describe alcohol would be a good vice--it sounds
> a bit unstable for sex.
>
> Oh, you meant a _vise_.
Ah the difference the Atlantic makes, English English Vice = American
english Vise!
[email protected] wrote:
> The only place I have to do my woodwork is a small garage where a car
> has to be kept every night.
> There's no spare floor space, so all tools and other devices need to
> be hung on the wall. For a work bench I'm currently using a piece of
> laminated worktop with formica on top, thick chipboard underneath and
> hardwood edging. This I place on trestles for working purposes, then
> it goes back on the wall when I'm finished.
>
> What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
> mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
> the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
> suggestions where I might find one?
>
Something to think about is a portable workbench like the Workmate.
I find mine extremely useful. It has a large vise (can be used
horizontally and vertically) and it is easy to add additional vise
capability by using hand screws and clamps. I use it for sawing
(power and hand), chiseling, routing, holding a mortising jig and
other uses. I have two large workbenches and the Workmate and I
use the Workmate all the time. You can take it anywhere. When not
in use it folds up almost flat (maybe 9 inches) and can be hung on a
wall. I guess the Workmate has limitations but if I were short on space
it is absolutely the first thing I would buy.
or perhaps visa versa
"badger.badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> J. Clarke wrote:
>>> What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
>>> mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
>>> the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
>>> suggestions where I might find one?
>>
>> For a bench such as you describe alcohol would be a good vice--it sounds
>> a bit unstable for sex.
>>
>> Oh, you meant a _vise_.
>
> Ah the difference the Atlantic makes, English English Vice = American
> english Vise!
[email protected] wrote:
> The only place I have to do my woodwork is a small garage where a car
> has to be kept every night.
> There's no spare floor space, so all tools and other devices need to
> be hung on the wall. For a work bench I'm currently using a piece of
> laminated worktop with formica on top, thick chipboard underneath and
> hardwood edging. This I place on trestles for working purposes, then
> it goes back on the wall when I'm finished.
>
> What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
> mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
> the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
> suggestions where I might find one?
For a bench such as you describe alcohol would be a good vice--it sounds
a bit unstable for sex.
Oh, you meant a _vise_.
Have you considered making the vise removable so that you can hang it on
the wall separately? A vise such as the Parrot Vise
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4767 can be very
convenient and can be attached to a board that can then be clamped down
onto the bench. You could also go with a regular machinist's vise and
do the same thing. Avoid like the plague the cheap clamp-on type such
as http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=3855 --they won't stay
put.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Morris Dovey wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> The only place I have to do my woodwork is a small garage where a
>> car has to be kept every night.
>> There's no spare floor space, so all tools and other devices need to
>> be hung on the wall. For a work bench I'm currently using a piece of
>> laminated worktop with formica on top, thick chipboard underneath
>> and hardwood edging. This I place on trestles for working purposes,
>> then it goes back on the wall when I'm finished.
>>
>> What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with
>> a mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space
>> when the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and
>> any suggestions where I might find one?
>
> At http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/SH_Project.html (third picture up from
> the bottom) is a portable vise that I've been using for a dozen or so
> years. It does a whole bunch of tricks with the included attachments -
> for example there're two parts that let you clamp a hand drill in
> place and use the works as a mini-lathe, the jaws can be used
> upside-down for planing or carving, and I dunno what all else.
>
> I use it as a simple vise, and when I'm not using it it lives clamped
> to a stud in the shop wall.
That would be one of these I presume?
http://www.advmachinery.com/default.asp?pg=products&specific=joeqcqk0.
Nice vise, but it ought to be for the price.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Morris Dovey wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> That would be one of these I presume?
>>
> http://www.advmachinery.com/default.asp?pg=products&specific=joeqcqk0.
>>
>> Nice vise, but it ought to be for the price.
>
> Wow! I bought mine (with all of the accessories except the carrying
> case) at the Iowa State Fair for less than $100. It _is_ a good
> portable vise and I've been happy with mine, but I wouldn't be willing
> to pay the $350 Advanced Machinery is asking...
Seems that there are three original Zyliss vises up on ebay right now
that look like they might actually go for reasonable prices. I'd never
heard of one before.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> opin'd
thus:
>What's lacking is a vice, but I need one that's both light and with a
>mechanism that's not so deep that it intrudes into the free space when
>the bench top is hung on the wall. Is there such a thing and any
>suggestions where I might find one?
I have this one on a small workbench in my small downstairs workshop:
http://www.epinions.com/Record_Quick_Vise_Portable_Vise_Shop_Tools
I mounted the base so that when the vise is removed, the base is flush
with the top of the bench, allowing the space to be used for other
things. Then when I need the vise, I latch it onto the base. It's not
a "woodworking" vise, per se, but I like the action and it has worked
well for me.
-Don
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"goaway" <[email protected]> writes:
> or perhaps visa versa
or do you mean vica verca?
:)
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Where darkness & light - are one. And as you tread the halls of sanity,
You feel so glad to be, Unable to go beyond. ELO - Twilight Prologue
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[email protected] wrote:
> I have the feeling that this is going to be my kind of vice.
You will probably find a few other things in that book you will like.
A book that has a chapter titled, "Happiness is a $5 table saw", has got
to have some interesting stuff in it.
Lew