I recently built a deck for my house out of ipe. I received a great
deal on 1x6 ipe decking ($1.10/lf) and have a considerable amount left
over. I still need to construct the railings and would prefer to glue
up my leftover existing 1" stock into the needed 2" stock instead of
purchasing more wood.
I'd like to know what glue would be the best choice to glue up the
stock. I searched around on Google and found some references to gluing
ipe, but didn't get a good read on what worked best in such an outdoor
application. It seems my options are poly glue, epoxy, and possibly
Titebond III. Having worked with poly glue, I have generally found it a
pain to use and would prefer to avoid it if possible. I have no
experience with epoxy, but it seems as if it might even be more of a
pain than poly. Titebond III looks promising, and would certainly be
the easiest to use considering the large amount of gluing I am facing.
The specs look good, but the website info is unclear on it's suitability
for such applications or woods.
Would Titebond III work fine in such an application? Would it hold up
to the weather being outside year-round? Is polyurethane glue or epoxy
a better choice, even considering the hassle of application? Any
thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark
I've used the West System epoxy on Ipe and it's pretty good. I wipe the
area to be glued with MEK about 5 minutes prior to bonding, don't over-clamp
or you'll squeeze all the epoxy out of the joint. WS has a broad range of
catalysts for any given temperature,choose one that gives you the best
working time. Stay away from the 5 minute epoxies as they are usually not
waterproof over the long haul. Epoxies can be a PITA, but if your careful
and don't over apply they are the best.
Ed Angell
"Mark Blum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently built a deck for my house out of ipe. I received a great
> deal on 1x6 ipe decking ($1.10/lf) and have a considerable amount left
> over. I still need to construct the railings and would prefer to glue
> up my leftover existing 1" stock into the needed 2" stock instead of
> purchasing more wood.
>
> I'd like to know what glue would be the best choice to glue up the
> stock. I searched around on Google and found some references to gluing
> ipe, but didn't get a good read on what worked best in such an outdoor
> application. It seems my options are poly glue, epoxy, and possibly
> Titebond III. Having worked with poly glue, I have generally found it a
> pain to use and would prefer to avoid it if possible. I have no
> experience with epoxy, but it seems as if it might even be more of a
> pain than poly. Titebond III looks promising, and would certainly be
> the easiest to use considering the large amount of gluing I am facing.
> The specs look good, but the website info is unclear on it's suitability
> for such applications or woods.
>
> Would Titebond III work fine in such an application? Would it hold up
> to the weather being outside year-round? Is polyurethane glue or epoxy
> a better choice, even considering the hassle of application? Any
> thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> >Would Titebond III work fine in such an application?
>
> Why not contact Titebond directly? I think it needs some kind of surface
> prep. I recall it has some properties akin to rosewood regarding resins
> and the like.
>
Thanks for the suggestion. I did send a question to Titebond, although
they haven't yet responded. I figured I would also see if anybody had
any personal experience here however, since product tech guys don't
always have any real-world experience with their product.
Thanks,
Mark
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Where did you buy the ipe.
>
I bought it from a local trucking company who had purchased a large
quantity to install as decking in semi trailers. They had a large
amount left over and were selling it for a great deal. I wouldn't think
they had any left as I purchased it some time ago. But it was a great
price while it lasted.
-Mark
Sounds like a great excuse to buy (rent, borrow) a biscuit joiner.
"Mark Blum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently built a deck for my house out of ipe. I received a great
> deal on 1x6 ipe decking ($1.10/lf) and have a considerable amount left
> over. I still need to construct the railings and would prefer to glue
> up my leftover existing 1" stock into the needed 2" stock instead of
> purchasing more wood.
>
> I'd like to know what glue would be the best choice to glue up the
> stock. I searched around on Google and found some references to gluing
> ipe, but didn't get a good read on what worked best in such an outdoor
> application. It seems my options are poly glue, epoxy, and possibly
> Titebond III. Having worked with poly glue, I have generally found it a
> pain to use and would prefer to avoid it if possible. I have no
> experience with epoxy, but it seems as if it might even be more of a
> pain than poly. Titebond III looks promising, and would certainly be
> the easiest to use considering the large amount of gluing I am facing.
> The specs look good, but the website info is unclear on it's suitability
> for such applications or woods.
>
> Would Titebond III work fine in such an application? Would it hold up
> to the weather being outside year-round? Is polyurethane glue or epoxy
> a better choice, even considering the hassle of application? Any
> thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
This will answer all your questions.
http://ipe-wood.com/tech.html#gen_char
Glen
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What the heck is IPE ?????
>
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:10:02 -0400, Mark Blum
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I recently built a deck for my house out of ipe. I received a great
> >deal on 1x6 ipe decking ($1.10/lf) and have a considerable amount left
> >over. I still need to construct the railings and would prefer to glue
> >up my leftover existing 1" stock into the needed 2" stock instead of
> >purchasing more wood.
> >
> >I'd like to know what glue would be the best choice to glue up the
> >stock. I searched around on Google and found some references to gluing
> >ipe, but didn't get a good read on what worked best in such an outdoor
> >application. It seems my options are poly glue, epoxy, and possibly
> >Titebond III. Having worked with poly glue, I have generally found it a
> >pain to use and would prefer to avoid it if possible. I have no
> >experience with epoxy, but it seems as if it might even be more of a
> >pain than poly. Titebond III looks promising, and would certainly be
> >the easiest to use considering the large amount of gluing I am facing.
> >The specs look good, but the website info is unclear on it's suitability
> >for such applications or woods.
> >
> >Would Titebond III work fine in such an application? Would it hold up
> >to the weather being outside year-round? Is polyurethane glue or epoxy
> >a better choice, even considering the hassle of application? Any
> >thoughts are appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mark
>
Mark Blum <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> SNIP....>
> I'd like to know what glue would be the best choice to glue up the
> stock.
> END SNIP....>
Mark;
Titebond III will work just fine. The only thing you need to
remember is to wipe it down with acetone first to knock back the oils
in the wood. Polyurethane glues also work well. The important part
is the acetone wipe.
Good luck.
Alex Garcia
Paxton Woodcrafters/KC
[email protected] wrote:
> What the heck is IPE ?????
google "ipe lumber". Also try "lapacho". There are some other trade
names for it but they're ambiguous. You might find
<http://www.rain-tree.com/paudarco.htm> to be interesting as well.
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:10:02 -0400, Mark Blum
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I recently built a deck for my house out of ipe. I received a great
>>deal on 1x6 ipe decking ($1.10/lf) and have a considerable amount left
>>over. I still need to construct the railings and would prefer to glue
>>up my leftover existing 1" stock into the needed 2" stock instead of
>>purchasing more wood.
>>
>>I'd like to know what glue would be the best choice to glue up the
>>stock. I searched around on Google and found some references to gluing
>>ipe, but didn't get a good read on what worked best in such an outdoor
>>application. It seems my options are poly glue, epoxy, and possibly
>>Titebond III. Having worked with poly glue, I have generally found it a
>>pain to use and would prefer to avoid it if possible. I have no
>>experience with epoxy, but it seems as if it might even be more of a
>>pain than poly. Titebond III looks promising, and would certainly be
>>the easiest to use considering the large amount of gluing I am facing.
>>The specs look good, but the website info is unclear on it's suitability
>>for such applications or woods.
>>
>>Would Titebond III work fine in such an application? Would it hold up
>>to the weather being outside year-round? Is polyurethane glue or epoxy
>>a better choice, even considering the hassle of application? Any
>>thoughts are appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Mark
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
jo4hn wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What the heck is IPE ?????
>>
>>
>> google "ipe lumber". Also try "lapacho". There are some other trade
>> names for it but they're ambiguous. You might find
>> <http://www.rain-tree.com/paudarco.htm> to be interesting as well.
>>
> AKA pau lope, ironwood, and others according to a recent issue of AWW.
The trouble with "ironwood" as a search key is that half the tropical
hardwoods in the book are called "ironwood".
"Tabebuia" is another key to use but it seems to get more of the sites that
focus on the medicinal properties of the bark or tout the bark extract as
an herbal than it does those that focus on the wood itself.
> j4
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
What the heck is IPE ?????
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:10:02 -0400, Mark Blum
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I recently built a deck for my house out of ipe. I received a great
>deal on 1x6 ipe decking ($1.10/lf) and have a considerable amount left
>over. I still need to construct the railings and would prefer to glue
>up my leftover existing 1" stock into the needed 2" stock instead of
>purchasing more wood.
>
>I'd like to know what glue would be the best choice to glue up the
>stock. I searched around on Google and found some references to gluing
>ipe, but didn't get a good read on what worked best in such an outdoor
>application. It seems my options are poly glue, epoxy, and possibly
>Titebond III. Having worked with poly glue, I have generally found it a
>pain to use and would prefer to avoid it if possible. I have no
>experience with epoxy, but it seems as if it might even be more of a
>pain than poly. Titebond III looks promising, and would certainly be
>the easiest to use considering the large amount of gluing I am facing.
>The specs look good, but the website info is unclear on it's suitability
>for such applications or woods.
>
>Would Titebond III work fine in such an application? Would it hold up
>to the weather being outside year-round? Is polyurethane glue or epoxy
>a better choice, even considering the hassle of application? Any
>thoughts are appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Mark
Resorcinol. Good color match until ipe ages.
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:10:02 -0400, Mark Blum
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I recently built a deck for my house out of ipe. I received a great
>deal on 1x6 ipe decking ($1.10/lf) and have a considerable amount left
>over. I still need to construct the railings and would prefer to glue
>up my leftover existing 1" stock into the needed 2" stock instead of
>purchasing more wood.
>
>I'd like to know what glue would be the best choice to glue up the
>stock. I searched around on Google and found some references to gluing
>ipe, but didn't get a good read on what worked best in such an outdoor
>application. It seems my options are poly glue, epoxy, and possibly
>Titebond III. Having worked with poly glue, I have generally found it a
>pain to use and would prefer to avoid it if possible. I have no
>experience with epoxy, but it seems as if it might even be more of a
>pain than poly. Titebond III looks promising, and would certainly be
>the easiest to use considering the large amount of gluing I am facing.
>The specs look good, but the website info is unclear on it's suitability
>for such applications or woods.
>
>Would Titebond III work fine in such an application? Would it hold up
>to the weather being outside year-round? Is polyurethane glue or epoxy
>a better choice, even considering the hassle of application? Any
>thoughts are appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Mark
J. Clarke wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>What the heck is IPE ?????
>
>
> google "ipe lumber". Also try "lapacho". There are some other trade
> names for it but they're ambiguous. You might find
> <http://www.rain-tree.com/paudarco.htm> to be interesting as well.
>
AKA pau lope, ironwood, and others according to a recent issue of AWW.
j4
Where did you buy the ipe.
Bob Heveri
"Mark Blum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently built a deck for my house out of ipe. I received a great
> deal on 1x6 ipe decking ($1.10/lf) and have a considerable amount left
> over. I still need to construct the railings and would prefer to glue
> up my leftover existing 1" stock into the needed 2" stock instead of
> purchasing more wood.
>
> I'd like to know what glue would be the best choice to glue up the
> stock. I searched around on Google and found some references to gluing
> ipe, but didn't get a good read on what worked best in such an outdoor
> application. It seems my options are poly glue, epoxy, and possibly
> Titebond III. Having worked with poly glue, I have generally found it a
> pain to use and would prefer to avoid it if possible. I have no
> experience with epoxy, but it seems as if it might even be more of a
> pain than poly. Titebond III looks promising, and would certainly be
> the easiest to use considering the large amount of gluing I am facing.
> The specs look good, but the website info is unclear on it's suitability
> for such applications or woods.
>
> Would Titebond III work fine in such an application? Would it hold up
> to the weather being outside year-round? Is polyurethane glue or epoxy
> a better choice, even considering the hassle of application? Any
> thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>