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08/01/2005 10:02 PM

Hitachi 10" Stationary Table Saw

Can't seem to find any information on this Model C10FL anywhere online,
other than the specs at Lowes.com. At $499 I'm guessing there is more
to the story about this saw. Is it really 3.0HP.

15 Amp induction motor (3.0 HP)
27" x 40" table top with extension wing
Blade tilt and blade height adjustment knobs up front for easy access
Table top angle scale
Enclosed motor to protect from dust and debris
Adjustable T-slotted miter gauge
Micro adjustment on fence
Deluxe caster set included
Cast iron trunnions


This topic has 19 replies

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in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

09/01/2005 9:49 AM

Thanks all - that's what I was after was the real HP rating. That
would make this saw no better than what I currently have. Was only
looking to maybe upgrade to a cabinet saw with more HP. A G5959 12"
5hp hit the classifieds today for 1000$ o.b.o.

Gg

"Geoff"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

31/01/2005 12:21 PM

I have this saw and I hate it.

The fence stinks, but I can't upgrade to a better fence because the
bolt-holes won't quite work.

The table is flat, but small. The aluminum extension wings can't be
made flat, and boy I've tried.

The motor is pretty strong, and with a good blade I'm able to get
through 3" hard maple no problem. However, the closed cabinet fills
with sawdust even with a dust collector attached to the port. Totally
fills up, and I can't get it all out. So eventually, I'm going to clog
up the important parts.

In the manual, there are supposed to be 2 adjustment allen keys for
adjusting the blade tilt. Of course my saw doesn't have those keys.
Tried the manufacturer but their service is non-responsive, told me to
go to back to the blue bord. So, I can't get it quite to 0deg. More
like 1deg, which just isn't good enough for fine joinery.

At least it runs quietly.

But, hey, for $499 from the blue borg, what can I expect? I'll really
appreciate a good cabinet saw when I finally wire my workshop for 220.

tt

[email protected] (tony stramella)

in reply to "Geoff" on 31/01/2005 12:21 PM

01/02/2005 5:16 PM

I am in the market for a new table saw and looked at the Hitachi at
Lows. Don't think I'l be buying one of these.Think I'll go with the
General g0576 model.





Gg

"Geoff"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

01/02/2005 7:01 AM

Um, ok, you got me there. I meant that the allen bolts themselves
aren't there. I have the wrenches, er, keys.

Gg

"Geoff"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

01/02/2005 1:08 PM

Finally got an "updated" spec from Hitachi that shows me how to do it.
Have to remove the back cover, then separate the "anchor block" from
the "worm" and twist the anchor block until the blade is at 90deg to
the table. Then re-attach the anchor block and replace the back cover.
Essentially I'm re-aligning the gears between the tilt crank and the
motor assembly.

One funny thing, though... I mentioned to the support tech (who was
actually very helpful) that I couldn't find the saw on the Hitachi
Tools website. He said that it wasn't going to be put there. I asked
why, and he said the this is just a "test run" product for Hitachi and
they weren't sure whether it was going to be a long-term run. They had
a Chinese company build these for them as a single run, and if they
sell well then Hitachi will consider making it a permanent product.

My bet is that Lowe's is considering a major investment in Hitachi in
the same way that HD sells the Rigid products.

I'm going to really love a Unisaw when I finally get my workshop wired
for 220.

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

09/01/2005 9:58 AM

usenet asks:

>Can't seem to find any information on this Model C10FL anywhere online,
>other than the specs at Lowes.com. At $499 I'm guessing there is more
>to the story about this saw. Is it really 3.0HP.
>
>15 Amp induction motor (3.0 HP)

Beats the bejabbers out of a universal motor.

>27" x 40" table top with extension wing

Good size.

>Blade tilt and blade height adjustment knobs up front for easy access

>Table top angle scale

Say what?

>Enclosed motor to protect from dust and debris

TEFC or what?

>Adjustable T-slotted miter gauge

Is it a standard size T slot? The older Hitachi saws have a gawdawful slot.

>Micro adjustment on fence
>Deluxe caster set included
>Cast iron trunnions

Most of that you can check at the store, if there's a Lowe's nearby. Hitachi
does not list the saw on its site: the only table saw up right now is the
C10RA2, with 2.6 HP.

The HP: No, it is not a 3 HP saw. It runs on 120 volts, so that's a given.
Neither is the C10RA2 a 2.6 HP saw. That's marketing hype, available from all
tool manufacturers at low or no cost.

Quick note: the Builder's Show is going on in Orlando either this week or the
coming week, and I've been told Hitachi is introducing new tools there. Whether
or not there is a table saw in the works, I have no idea.

If specs are as presented, it should be a good saw, except there's no info on
table top material. Cast iron all round is best.


Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush

mM

[email protected] (MSCHAEF.COM)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

09/01/2005 3:12 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
>usenet asks:
...
>>Table top angle scale
>
>Say what?

I a the Hitachi table saw today that had this "feature".

Basically, they have a small plastic window mounted in the
table through which you can see a angle scale that rotates as the
arbor tilts.

I'm not sure what the benefit is. The typical arrow on the front
of the cabinet seems easier to read if you're down cranking
a wheel.

-Mike
--
http://www.mschaef.com

nw

[email protected] (waterbugs)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

21/12/2005 9:00 AM

I bought this saw in April this year and found it to be quite easy
:cool: to assemble and operate. Along with being quiet and very
strong, the cuts are so fine that often I can glue joints w/o sanding
or jointing. This includes crosscutting lumber core plywood (birch,
maple). The C10FL is listed on Hitachi's powertool site:

www.hitachipowertolls.com

Put C10FL in the site search window and you will see the listing.

Hope the link helps you! :)

Captain Jackie Prewitt
Ocala, Florida

nw

[email protected] (waterbugs)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

21/12/2005 9:00 AM

I bought this saw in April this year and found it to be quite easy
:cool: to assemble and operate. Along with being quiet and very
strong, the cuts are so fine that often I can glue joints w/o sanding
or jointing. This includes crosscutting lumber core plywood (birch,
maple). The C10FL is listed on Hitachi's powertool site:

www.hitachipowertolls.com

Put C10FL in the site search window and you will see the listing.

Hope the link helps you! :)

Captain Jackie Prewitt
Ocala, Florida

nw

[email protected] (waterbugs)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

21/12/2005 9:00 AM

I bought this saw in April this year and found it to be quite easy to
assemble and operate. Along with being quiet and very strong, the
cuts are so fine that often I can glue joints w/o sanding or
jointing. This includes crosscutting lumber core plywood (birch,
maple). The C10FL is listed on Hitachi's powertool site:

www.hitachipowertolls.com

Put C10FL in the site search window and you will see the listing.

Hope the link helps you!

nw

[email protected] (waterbugs)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

21/12/2005 9:00 AM

I took several weeks to decide on buying this saw, making many
comparisons, and found it to be quite easy to assemble and operate.
Along with being quiet and very strong, the cuts are so fine that
often I can glue joints w/o sanding or jointing. This includes
crosscutting lumber core plywood (birch, maple). The C10FL is listed
on Hitachi's powertool site:

www.hitachipowertolls.com

Put C10FL in the site search window and you will see the listing.

Hope the link helps you!

nw

[email protected] (waterbugs)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

21/12/2005 9:00 AM

I took several weeks to decide on buying this saw, making many
comparisons, and found it to be quite easy to assemble and operate.
Along with being quiet and very strong, the cuts are so fine that
often I can glue joints w/o sanding or jointing. This includes
crosscutting lumber core plywood (birch, maple). The C10FL is listed
on Hitachi's powertool site:

www.hitachipowertolls.com

Put C10FL in the site search window and you will see the listing.

Hope the link helps you!

nw

[email protected] (waterbugs)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

21/12/2005 9:00 AM

I took several weeks to decide on buying this saw, making many
comparisons, and found it to be quite easy to assemble and operate.
Along with being quiet and very strong, the cuts are so fine that
often I can glue joints w/o sanding or jointing. This includes
crosscutting lumber core plywood (birch, maple). The C10FL is listed
on Hitachi's powertool site: hitachipowertolls.com
Put C10FL in the site search window and you will see the listing. Hope
the link helps you!

nw

[email protected] (waterbugs)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

21/12/2005 9:00 AM

I found it to be quite easy to assemble and operate. Along with being
quiet and very strong the cuts are so fine that often I can glue
joints without sanding or jointing. This includes crosscutting lumber
core plywood birch and maple. The C10FL is listed on Hitachi's
powertool site hitachipowertolls.com
Put C10FL in the site search window and you will see the listing. Hope
the link helps you!

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

31/01/2005 11:49 PM

"Geoff" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In the manual, there are supposed to be 2 adjustment allen keys for
> adjusting the blade tilt. Of course my saw doesn't have those keys.
> Tried the manufacturer but their service is non-responsive, told me to
> go to back to the blue bord. So, I can't get it quite to 0deg. More
> like 1deg, which just isn't good enough for fine joinery.
>
>

Have you considered buying a couple allen wrenches, or maybe a cheap set?

Bb

"BillyBob"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

09/01/2005 12:13 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Can't seem to find any information on this Model C10FL anywhere online,
> other than the specs at Lowes.com. At $499 I'm guessing there is more
> to the story about this saw. Is it really 3.0HP.
>
> 15 Amp induction motor (3.0 HP)

If that's 15 amps at 110v, there's no way its 3 hp - probably more like 1.5
or 1.7 hp.

Bob

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

09/01/2005 9:35 PM


"BillyBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Can't seem to find any information on this Model C10FL anywhere online,
> > other than the specs at Lowes.com. At $499 I'm guessing there is more
> > to the story about this saw. Is it really 3.0HP.
> >
> > 15 Amp induction motor (3.0 HP)
>
> If that's 15 amps at 110v, there's no way its 3 hp - probably more like
1.5
> or 1.7 hp.
The manufacturer is advertising the peak hp which would be twice the
average.
Jim

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

01/02/2005 9:43 PM

"Geoff" <[email protected]> wrote:

> One funny thing, though... I mentioned to the support tech (who was
> actually very helpful) that I couldn't find the saw on the Hitachi
> Tools website. He said that it wasn't going to be put there. I asked
> why, and he said the this is just a "test run" product for Hitachi and
> they weren't sure whether it was going to be a long-term run. They had
> a Chinese company build these for them as a single run, and if they
> sell well then Hitachi will consider making it a permanent product.
>
>

That's got to give you warm fuzzies! I bought a Toshiba desktop PC once
because they had a good rep in the laptop business and the DT had more
bells and whistles for the price than most other DTs. Lo and behold, they
orphaned the whole line.

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "[email protected]" on 08/01/2005 10:02 PM

01/02/2005 6:52 PM

"Geoff" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Um, ok, you got me there. I meant that the allen bolts themselves
> aren't there. I have the wrenches, er, keys.
>
>

Yeah, missing bolts is a whole different animal. No response from Hitachi?


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