Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure it's
great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have any
need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
If you can't afford to buy it...build it.
I did. Check it out...
http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/kb8qlrjoe/page5.html
It aint pretty, it aint super accurate, but it works for me. I can always
make modifications to make it better.
I'm making bowls, drawer pulls, a dome roof for a bird feeder, a holder for
a magnifying glass.
Also, check out the very latest edition of Shop Notes.
Have fun always.
Joe kb8qlr
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> > Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in
> > shop class. I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time
> > convncing my wife that I need it. We just made candle holders in shop
> > class, and while I'm sure it's great for things like table legs,
> > lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede that I really can't think
>
> Just wait till she suggests that "WE" "need" something (womanspeak for "I
> want") then trade it off.
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> as soon as you have one you'll stop bugging her for one. it's all for
> her peace of mind.....
> Bridger
>
Now THAT'S the best one I"ve heard yet!
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop
class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife
that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure
it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to
concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have
any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat
would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If
you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the
usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Definitely not being sarcastic here, so bear with me. I can justify
anything to my wife by telling her, "Honey, I'd like to buy XXX. I *could*
be sitting on my ass in the recliner drinking beer and watching football, or
smoking a pack a day, or playing golf, or (insert expensive hobby here), but
since I don't do any of that stuff, I need something to occupy my time."
Find a local woodturner's group and attend their meetings. Get a cheap mini
lathe (JET or Delta) and a decent set of lathe tools, and start by making
some stuff for her. Lathe work doesn't have to be practical at all (just
pick up a copy of American Woodturner magazine and see how much of that is
practical), but it's sure relaxing and lots of fun.
Keep in mind that lathe work, also, doesn't have to cost you a dime in terms
of wood supply. There's a lot of turners I know, and myself included, that
basically grab chunks off the firewood pile or beg short chunks from local
loggers or tree services. What will cost you is when you get into it and
start buying expensive tools, accessories, exotic burls and turning blanks,
and eventually a really big lathe. Obviously, you don't need all that, but
I bet I could *easily* spend more on a high-end lathe, tooling, accessories
and supplies than I could on an entire flatwork shop.
Jon E
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 02:59:39 -0200, "Puff Griffis" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Because of this irritating thread I went out and bought the cheapest
>lathe that HF had. It was the $129 old model but I got if for $79 since
>it is discontinued. Anyway so I set it up and having never used a
>lathe before I actually read the 3 pages of instructions and off I went.
>I now have 7 honey dippers a candle holder and a dice cup. What a hoot.
>Puff
This points out one of the great things about a lathe - you really
don't need an expensive or fancy one to do awfully nice (and fun)
work. I have my Dad's old Sears Companion lathe he got maybe 35 years
ago. It's turned a lot of miscellaneous chair rungs, wooden mallets,
candlesticks etc. and probably didn't cost much over $100 new.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:31:46 -0800, "Gene" <[email protected]> wrote:
>As you can sense from the responses so far, most of us don't NEED a lathe.
>If we walked around our shop and had to pick the tool that is the most fun
>to use, we, who have them, would most likely pick the lathe.
>
Dont own a lathe yet so my most fun stuff is the bandsaw and my crappy
Stanley spokeshave.
TomL
NoNameAtAll wrote:
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
I own a mini and a midi lathe. One will turn up to 6" diameter the
other over a ft. Both will turn small things, candlesticks, pens etc,
but only the larger will turn things like bolws adequately. Let's face
it, a <6" diameter bowl doesn't hold a lot of salad. On the other hand
it makes nice small bowls for the dashboard (toll change) or next to the
bed, pocket contents. What my wife likes about it is that she doesn't
have to worry about presents, Xmas or otherwise. A fancy salad and soup
set is a nice wedding present, homemade oraments are nice Xmas
presents. If you have kids ANYTHING they make is a nice grandparent
present. Just remember a big lathe can turn small, the other way
doesn't work.
Hope that helps,
Dave in Fairfax
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As you can sense from the responses so far, most of us don't NEED a lathe.
If we walked around our shop and had to pick the tool that is the most fun
to use, we, who have them, would most likely pick the lathe.
While there are some weekend square projects, most of them take longer than
that. With a lathe, from start to finished (that includes finish) is
measured in minutes to hours. Some projects are useless, like the mushrooms
mentioned. We call them "art" or "craft" depending on whether you have your
lathe in a shop or studio :)
Some people buy a lathe as an extension of their love of wood and
woodworking. Some find it so fascinating that they quit building square
stuff. Many, as noted in the responses, will use it occasionally as therapy.
How do you justify that you need it? You don't. You want it. If you smoked a
pack a day at $2 a pack (don't know what the price is, but this works for
here,) you'd burn up $730 in a year. If you smoke, quit, and you have your
budget. Then you'll have to worry about the dust in your lungs.
For a $730 budget I'd buy:
A used lathe or a Jet Mini with extension. ~$250
The $29.99 set of HSS turning tools from HF ~$40
A good quality 1/2 inch bowl gouge ~$50
A Talon chuck for the mini lathe or Stronghold for a full size lathe ~$200
Pen kits, book, wood. ~$60
That leaves $130 for some roses and a bauble for SWMBO. Or maybe a nice
dinner out.
Gene
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop
class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife
that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure
it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to
concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have
any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat
would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If
you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the
usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Silvan wrote:
> The biggest thing about a lathe is the realization that lumber just isn't
> good turning stock. Especially not for newbies where one project in 30 is
> worth keeping out of the trash can. (My ratio has gone way up since I
> started turning mushrooms though. All of those have been keepers, except
> he one that came apart. Plus I can turn them on the round, which saves a
> lot of labor.)
> I need a chainsaw and a bandsaw bigtime. And a Jacobs chuck, and a four-jaw
> chuck of some sort, and a screw chuck, and some different drives and
> different centers, and better turning tools, and more turning tools, and
> more wood, always more wood...
I ain't gonna give up a chainsaw, but you've got a box of blanks headed
you way. Try turning some of that pine you've got lying around, and any
poplar that you can find.
Dave in Fairfax
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On 14 Jan 2004 16:04:08 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
wrote:
>need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
>be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
>can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
>a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Can't do that. But......
I needed a bunch of handles for chisels I bought on ebay, couldn't
swing the price of a lathe so, as I had an old article on pole lathes
(bungee cord lathes) I just built my own. Making your own tools is a
really enjoyable experience.
It is tough standing on one leg and pumping the lathe with the other
but the whole operation was fun.....and inexpensive.
I turned out about 8 handles, had a lot of fun learning something of
the bodger's trade, and should I need to do any more turning, that is
the way I will do it (with some modifications this time of course
...and probably some more the next time).
If you are interested just do a Google search on pole lathe for a lot
of good links. And someplace on my computer I have the articles
scanned in if you think you would like to try it.
Kiyu
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When you can make 4 stair spindles an hour that has bumps, knobs, tapers
and spirals an hour on your lathe, you are getting your worth from it.
However, you can make a 28 stair style set, identical on a legacy in one
day and sell them for $50 plus each. ($1400)
>>NoNameAtAll wrote:
>>...need to make any of those things. Actually making
>>a homemade baseball bat would be kind of neat
>>but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that.
>>If you can help me convince my wife (and myself
>>for that matter) of the usefulness of a lathe I'll be
>>eternally grateful.
>Kiyu wrote
>Can't do that. But......
>I needed a bunch of handles for chisels I bought on ebay,
>couldn't swing the price of a lathe so, as I had an old article on pole
>lathes (bungee cord lathes) I just built my own. Making your own tools
>is a really enjoyable experience.
>It is tough standing on one leg and pumping the lathe with the other
>but the whole operation was fun.....and inexpensive. I turned
>out about 8 handles, had a lot of fun learning something of the
>bodger's trade, and should I need to do any more turning, that is
>the way I will do it (with some modifications this time of course
>...and probably some more the next time).
If you are interested
>just do a Google search on pole lathe for a lot of good links. And
>someplace on my computer I have the articles scanned in if you
>think you would like to try it.
>Kiyu
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Yes Joe but sell to who or whom? my shop has been open for months and I am
having a hell of a time finding customers.
"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> When you can make 4 stair spindles an hour that has bumps, knobs, tapers
> and spirals an hour on your lathe, you are getting your worth from it.
> However, you can make a 28 stair style set, identical on a legacy in one
> day and sell them for $50 plus each. ($1400)
>
>
>
>
> >>NoNameAtAll wrote:
>
> >>...need to make any of those things. Actually making
> >>a homemade baseball bat would be kind of neat
> >>but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that.
> >>If you can help me convince my wife (and myself
> >>for that matter) of the usefulness of a lathe I'll be
> >>eternally grateful.
>
>
> >Kiyu wrote
>
> >Can't do that. But......
> >I needed a bunch of handles for chisels I bought on ebay,
> >couldn't swing the price of a lathe so, as I had an old article on pole
> >lathes (bungee cord lathes) I just built my own. Making your own tools
> >is a really enjoyable experience.
>
> >It is tough standing on one leg and pumping the lathe with the other
> >but the whole operation was fun.....and inexpensive. I turned
> >out about 8 handles, had a lot of fun learning something of the
> >bodger's trade, and should I need to do any more turning, that is
> >the way I will do it (with some modifications this time of course
> >...and probably some more the next time).
> If you are interested
> >just do a Google search on pole lathe for a lot of good links. And
> >someplace on my computer I have the articles scanned in if you
> >think you would like to try it.
>
> >Kiyu
>
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>
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>
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In article <[email protected]>, Don
<[email protected]> wrote:
> How long did it take you to become proficient with the Legacy and which
> model do you own?
What makes you think he actually owns one?
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Make a few samples of spindles that you can't buy at the local borg.
Show them you can make these for contractors on an as needed basis.
Make a book of samples and take them into the borg where they can show
the unique styles you can make to their contractors and customers. Let
the borg know you can make custom replacements of broken items. Contact
a home builder who may be interested in a special design. Build
furniture for a local consignment store. Build furniture for a local
interior designer.
BTW, A Legacy comes with a design pad that helps you design the shapes
you need.
Remember, a complex stair spindle with knobs, flutes, spirals and
contours only takes 15-20 minutes to make. You can make a whole set in
a day.
I bet Norm wishes he had one. He made a 48" round table with a three
leg pedestal base. He had to make a jig to do the tenons and morticing
on the base. This could have all been done on the Legacy when the base
was made.
Contact Legacy Ornamental Mills at 1-800-279-4570 or long on at
www.legacywoodworking.com for a free DVD.
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>Yes Joe but sell to who or whom? my shop has been open for
>months and I am having a hell of a time finding customers.
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If *we* mention your name, will *we* get a discount on the price
when calling that number for that well engineered product?
Also, if someone posts an item on the rec saying how they prefer to
sharpen their shop pencil with a pocket knife or a chisel, will you
rebuke them for not having the latest electric pencil sharpener?
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"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker"> wrote
> Make a few samples of spindles that you can't buy at the local borg.
> Show them you can make these for contractors on an as needed basis.
> Make a book of samples and take them into the borg where they can show
> the unique styles you can make to their contractors and customers. Let
> the borg know you can make custom replacements of broken items. Contact
> a home builder who may be interested in a special design. Build
> furniture for a local consignment store. Build furniture for a local
> interior designer.
>
> BTW, A Legacy comes with a design pad that helps you design the shapes
> you need.
How long did it take you to become proficient with the Legacy and which
model do you own?
I emailed them for a DVD and find the whole concept enlightening though
there is little chance I could ever afford one.
"Bridger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:39:09 GMT, "Don" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker"> wrote
> >> Make a few samples of spindles that you can't buy at the local borg.
> >> Show them you can make these for contractors on an as needed basis.
> >> Make a book of samples and take them into the borg where they can show
> >> the unique styles you can make to their contractors and customers. Let
> >> the borg know you can make custom replacements of broken items.
Contact
> >> a home builder who may be interested in a special design. Build
> >> furniture for a local consignment store. Build furniture for a local
> >> interior designer.
> >>
> >> BTW, A Legacy comes with a design pad that helps you design the shapes
> >> you need.
> >
> >How long did it take you to become proficient with the Legacy and which
> >model do you own?
> >I emailed them for a DVD and find the whole concept enlightening though
> >there is little chance I could ever afford one.
> >
>
>
> I have a couple of 8' aluminum I beams. I have used them in router
> jigs before. the idea of expanding on the legacy concept has some
> appeal....
Indeed.
I am in the process right now of fabricating, out of stock aluminum channel,
a device that will ride in both the t-slots on my table saw that will
support a small piece of wood in various positions over the rotating blade.
Sort of a modification of the idea of feeding wood into the blade on an
angle to create a wide cove cut. I want to be able to rotate the wood, at
varying angles, above the blade to create symetrical/radial patterns and
carve large bowls.
Woodys comparison of the Legacy to a Lathe is invalid though as they are two
different tools. And, you can buy a lathe for a few hundred bucks and the
Legacy is quite a bit more.
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:12:47 -0700 (MST), [email protected] (Joe
"Woody" Woodpecker) wrote:
---snip stuff about a fancy router jig---
Joe-
I'm glad you like your tool. it sounds like a neat machine- I think
I'll go ahead and get some of the manufacturer's info. I have seen
this kind of thing before, and it looks very useful.
HOWEVER, the damn thing is not a lathe, so your posts are off topic
for this thread. if you want to discuss it further, please start a new
thread.
Bridger
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:39:09 GMT, "Don" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker"> wrote
>> Make a few samples of spindles that you can't buy at the local borg.
>> Show them you can make these for contractors on an as needed basis.
>> Make a book of samples and take them into the borg where they can show
>> the unique styles you can make to their contractors and customers. Let
>> the borg know you can make custom replacements of broken items. Contact
>> a home builder who may be interested in a special design. Build
>> furniture for a local consignment store. Build furniture for a local
>> interior designer.
>>
>> BTW, A Legacy comes with a design pad that helps you design the shapes
>> you need.
>
>How long did it take you to become proficient with the Legacy and which
>model do you own?
>I emailed them for a DVD and find the whole concept enlightening though
>there is little chance I could ever afford one.
>
I have a couple of 8' aluminum I beams. I have used them in router
jigs before. the idea of expanding on the legacy concept has some
appeal....
Bridger
So Joe, how fun is the Legacy ? I work with wood because I enjoy it. =
That's all its not to make a living its to have fun. Sure I supplement =
my income a bit with the things I make but I have FUN. Get my point ?
Puff
"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> When you can make 4 stair spindles an hour that has bumps, knobs, =
tapers
> and spirals an hour on your lathe, you are getting your worth from it.
> However, you can make a 28 stair style set, identical on a legacy in =
one
> day and sell them for $50 plus each. ($1400)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =20
> >>NoNameAtAll wrote:
> =20
> >>...need to make any of those things. Actually making=20
> >>a homemade baseball bat would be kind of neat=20
> >>but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that.=20
> >>If you can help me convince my wife (and myself=20
> >>for that matter) of the usefulness of a lathe I'll be=20
> >>eternally grateful.=20
>=20
>=20
> >Kiyu wrote
>=20
> >Can't do that. But......=20
> >I needed a bunch of handles for chisels I bought on ebay,=20
> >couldn't swing the price of a lathe so, as I had an old article on =
pole=20
> >lathes (bungee cord lathes) I just built my own. Making your own =
tools=20
> >is a really enjoyable experience.=20
>=20
> >It is tough standing on one leg and pumping the lathe with the other=20
> >but the whole operation was fun.....and inexpensive. I turned=20
> >out about 8 handles, had a lot of fun learning something of the=20
> >bodger's trade, and should I need to do any more turning, that is=20
> >the way I will do it (with some modifications this time of course=20
> >...and probably some more the next time).=20
> If you are interested=20
> >just do a Google search on pole lathe for a lot of good links. And=20
> >someplace on my computer I have the articles scanned in if you=20
> >think you would like to try it.=20
>=20
> >Kiyu
>=20
> --
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>=20
>=20
> Check out my Web Page at:=20
>=20
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>=20
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> * * * Murphy's Woodworking Definitions. 2-8-03
> * * * Murphy's Woodworking Laws. 4-6-03
> * * * What is the true meaning of life? 1-14-03
> * * * Woodworker Shop Signs. 2-8-03
>
You want to talk about fun. Well, fun is when you turn a pair of
spindals, each looking like twisted rope with a hollow center (left
twist and right twist) that has none of the strands touching, and you
install them on the chair or chest you are building.
Funiswhenyoumakeforafriendthestairstylesheneedeswhenheisbuildinghishouse.
FunisknowingthatyourturningisbetterthanNorms.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Joe "Woody" Woodpecker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Need I go on.
One hopes not, but one has been disappointed before.
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You want to talk about fun. Well, fun is when you turn a pair of
spindles, each looking like twisted rope with a hollow center (left
twist and right twist) that has none of the strands touching, and you
install them on the chair or chest you are building. Fun is when you
make for a friend the stair styles he needs when he is building his
house. Fun is knowing that your turning is better than Norm's. Fun is
knowing when you can make more stylish turnings that your friends that
just have a lathe. Fun is being able to complete a project because
you're not 'playing' on a lathe. Fun is seeing results in minutes. Fun
is turning several 2" dowels in a matter of minutes, all with an exact
duplication. Fun is knowing you don't have to spend $400 plus on a
lathe duplicator. Fun is knowing you don't have to make jigs to finish
a project.
Need I go on.
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>Puff=A0Griffis wrote
>So Joe, how fun is the Legacy ? I work with wood because I enjoy
>it. That's all its not to make a living its to have fun. Sure I
supplement
>my income a bit with the things I make but I have FUN. Get my
>point ? Puff
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Sun, Jan 18, 2004, 11:33am (EST-2) [email protected]
(Joe=A0"Woody"=A0Woodpecker) claims:
You want to talk about fun. Well, fun is when you turn a pair of
spindles, each looking like twisted rope with a hollow center (left
twist and right twist) that has none of the strands touching, and you
install them on the chair or chest you are building.
No ii's not. Might be fun to make one, just to make one, but most
of them are really kinds ugly, to me.
Fun is when you make for a friend the stair styles he needs when he is
building his house.
No, that would be helping out.
Fun is knowing that your turning is better than Norm's.
I don't care if my turning is better than Norm's or not. I don't
do things to show him, or anyone else up (well, I could makean
exception on that for Bob).
Fun is knowing when you can make more stylish turnings that your friends
that just have a lathe.
See above answer.
Fun is being able to complete a project because you're not 'playing' on
a lathe.
When I "play" on my lathe, I'm not doing a project, I'm having fun.
Fun is seeing results in minutes.
I don't have a time limit on my pjects, I 'm not mass producing
stuff, so I really don't care.
Fun is turning several 2" dowels in a matter of minutes, all with an
exact duplication.
Considering that if I needed 2" dowels, I'd be just as likely to
bandsaw the wood to size, then whittle them out with a knife, so exact
duplication just dosen't enter into it, somehow. Especially since I
only need dowels every few years.
Fun is knowing you don't have to spend $400 plus on a lathe duplicator.
No, fun is making a lathe duplicator, out of mostly scrap plywood,
probably. Seeing as I'm not a production shop, that'd be close enough.
Fun is knowing you don't have to make jigs to finish a project.
Fun is knowing I have to make jigs to finish a project.
Need I go on.
Please, no!!
JOAT
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you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
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You just don't get it do you ? I ENJOY playing in my shop. I make =
cardboard boxes for a living I don't need to work when I get home I need =
to relax. Wood working fits the bill. If its making a oak end table for =
my Mother or scrolling out a dog out line clock for my Daughter, she is =
an Army M.P. in the K9 corps, or just turning a dice cup out of some =
scrap I laminated together. IT'S FUN GET IT.
Puff
"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
You want to talk about fun. Well, fun is when you turn a pair of
spindles, each looking like twisted rope with a hollow center (left
twist and right twist) that has none of the strands touching, and you
install them on the chair or chest you are building. Fun is when you
make for a friend the stair styles he needs when he is building his
house. Fun is knowing that your turning is better than Norm's. Fun is
knowing when you can make more stylish turnings that your friends that
just have a lathe. Fun is being able to complete a project because
you're not 'playing' on a lathe. Fun is seeing results in minutes. Fun
is turning several 2" dowels in a matter of minutes, all with an exact
duplication. Fun is knowing you don't have to spend $400 plus on a
lathe duplicator. Fun is knowing you don't have to make jigs to finish
a project.
Need I go on.
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>Puff Griffis wrote
=20
>So Joe, how fun is the Legacy ? I work with wood because I enjoy=20
>it. That's all its not to make a living its to have fun. Sure I
supplement=20
>my income a bit with the things I make but I have FUN. Get my=20
>point ? Puff
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Silvan wrote:
> Yeah, just don't say this too loud over on the woodturning newsgroup.
> They'll start talking about how if it doesn't weigh twice as much as your
> old Volkswagen, it's a piece of junk. :)
Some will, JOAT and I have never spoken up on that side of the
argument. Back to our powered apple corer thread. Ruth was pretty
specific about it being the turner not the lathe as well.
Dave in Fairfax
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Tim Douglass wrote:
> This points out one of the great things about a lathe - you really
> don't need an expensive or fancy one to do awfully nice (and fun)
> work. I have my Dad's old Sears Companion lathe he got maybe 35 years
> ago. It's turned a lot of miscellaneous chair rungs, wooden mallets,
> candlesticks etc. and probably didn't cost much over $100 new.
Yeah, just don't say this too loud over on the woodturning newsgroup.
They'll start talking about how if it doesn't weigh twice as much as your
old Volkswagen, it's a piece of junk. :)
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"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop
class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife
that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure
it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to
concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have
any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat
would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If
you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the
usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Just go buy it.
When your wife asks why you bought it say, *Cause I wanted it*.
as soon as you have one you'll stop bugging her for one. it's all for
her peace of mind.....
Bridger
On 14 Jan 2004 16:04:08 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
wrote:
>Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
>I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
>need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure it's
>great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
>that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have any
>need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
>be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
>can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
>a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Victor Radin wrote:
> Don't do it. Listen to your wife. Woodturning is an insidious hobby, no,
> strike that last- it's not a hobby, it's an addiction. Sure- you'll
It definitely is for sure. I haven't made any real stuff in my shop since
Christmas. The list of things I really need and can't afford is endless.
The biggest thing about a lathe is the realization that lumber just isn't
good turning stock. Especially not for newbies where one project in 30 is
worth keeping out of the trash can. (My ratio has gone way up since I
started turning mushrooms though. All of those have been keepers, except
he one that came apart. Plus I can turn them on the round, which saves a
lot of labor.)
You have to buy really thick, expensive lumber, or else spend a lot of time
doing careful glue-ups. Or else use firewood.
Firewood is all but demanded, and working it into turning blanks without the
proper tools is a tedious thing. I have an axe, a maul and a couple of bow
saws. Making bowl blanks SUCKS. Especially when they come apart after all
that freaking labor.
I need a chainsaw and a bandsaw bigtime. And a Jacobs chuck, and a four-jaw
chuck of some sort, and a screw chuck, and some different drives and
different centers, and better turning tools, and more turning tools, and
more wood, always more wood...
More more more more more!
It's the most expensive $200 I ever spent. Too bad I'm broke. I'm limited
so far to turning the pile of maple my neighbor cut out of her tree. So
far. I already know where the woodpile is going to go though.
> vic
> who manages to avoid the addiction of new tools by being broke.
You can say that again. :(
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"Gene" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<4006b2bc$0$18913$SNIP
> For a $730 budget I'd buy:
>
> A used lathe or a Jet Mini with extension. ~$250
> The $29.99 set of HSS turning tools from HF ~$40
> A good quality 1/2 inch bowl gouge ~$50
> A Talon chuck for the mini lathe or Stronghold for a full size lathe ~$200
> Pen kits, book, wood. ~$60
> That leaves $130 for some roses and a bauble for SWMBO. Or maybe a nice
> dinner out.
>
> Gene
Damn, when did those $29.99 sets go down to only $40 ;)
Dave Hall
On 14 Jan 2004 16:04:08 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
wrote:
>Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
>I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
>need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure it's
>great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
>that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have any
>need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
>be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
>can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
>a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Having a lathe is like entering a time machine. Start using it and
you think an hour goes by, but really it was the entire day passes by.
Very addicting machine, and I think it is one of the oldest
woodworking machines. Justify it as a gift, rather than a necessity,
just to keep out of the doghouse.
I have a lathe. I have few practical uses for it. You've already
figured out that a lathe is a blast to use. Immediate gratification and
no matter what you make it looks cool.
Here's my advice and it's application goes way beyond whether to buy
this lathe or not. It's always easier to get forgiveness than it is to
get permission. See all the hassle you're going through trying to buy a
lathe? You could have bought it, made her a bowl and a rolling pin and
a matching candlestick, taken her to dinner, and be back in your shop by
now using the lathe instead of talking about it.
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"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in
shop class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife
that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure
it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to
concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't
have any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball
bat would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for
that. If you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the
usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Good point. Don't build any weapons for a week or two.
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"Tim Douglass" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:58:18 GMT, "Larry C"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Here's my advice and it's application goes way beyond whether to buy
> >this lathe or not. It's always easier to get forgiveness than it is
to
> >get permission. See all the hassle you're going through trying to
buy a
> >lathe? You could have bought it, made her a bowl and a rolling pin
>
> Even odds that if you make her the rolling pin you wear it for buying
> the lathe without asking first. Making something she can hit you with
> just doesn't seem smart.
>
> Tim Douglass
>
> http://www.DouglassClan.com
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
>
(with tongue planted firmly in cheek...)
Don't do it. Listen to your wife. Woodturning is an insidious hobby, no,
strike that last- it's not a hobby, it's an addiction. Sure- you'll
start with the inexpensive mono-tube crapsman lathe third-hand from ebay
and a set of $49.96 tools from Harbor Fright. You'll learn to turn
bowls, boxes, cups, pens, scoops, tops, toys, more bowls. Your firewood
budget will go up and then you'll get a woodburning stove for the shop
just to hide the errors. You soon start noticing other lathes calling to
you- the Minis and Midis... so you get one of each, and a set of tools
just for pens, and another set just for bowls, custom tools for mushroom
cap insides or the lip on a box lid... then you want more power to make
bigger bowls- and you begin looking at that Poole, or Vicmarc, or
Oneway... or (insert ominous music) the Stubby!! And another new set of
tools, because you just cannot possibly use a multi-thousand dollar
lathe with a $19.95 gouge. Then as your skills get better and the wife
actually notices on the rare occurrence that you step out of the
shop.... she needs a bigger salad bowl so you get the Osolnik giant sit-
on-it monster and turn a bowl the size of Rhode Island... and then she
wants columns for the porch... so you get yet another lathe, so you can
turn that 10-foot-long, 20" diameter post. Next thing you know you're
building a new shed in the backyard for the collection of lathes, with
it's own power and HVAC plant.
It all starts with one little pen...
Get yourself over to rec.crafts.woodturning and visit for a while- nice
bunch of folks who will actually have excellent reasons for getting a
lathe other than it's relaxing and a boat-load of fun (why I got mine
in the first place).
vic
who manages to avoid the addiction of new tools by being broke.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Gene wrote:
>
> > measured in minutes to hours. Some projects are useless, like the
> > mushrooms mentioned. We call them "art" or "craft" depending on whether
> > you have your lathe in a shop or studio :)
>
> Not useless. Tie a couple of them to a string and you have a bola. Put one
> on your desk and you have a paperweight. Put a bunch of them in a bag, and
> you have a weapon almost as good as a sack of doorknobs.
>
I make bunches of the silly things- I've got four or five on the desk,
and another small forest of them in the basement. I collect wood from
our Scout Reservation summer camp- wonderfully spalted Silver Birch, red
pine, oak, maple- and give them as gifts to the staff. When I get a nice
batch of donated greenwood from friends or neighbors I'll quick-turn a
shroom or two from the same wood as a 'thank you'. Faster than a bowl or
other item, and the warp of a green-turned shroom can be very "artsy-
fartsy".
--
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> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in
> shop class. I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time
> convncing my wife that I need it. We just made candle holders in shop
> class, and while I'm sure it's great for things like table legs,
> lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede that I really can't think
Just wait till she suggests that "WE" "need" something (womanspeak for "I
want") then trade it off.
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"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Andy Dingley wrote:
>
> > That's the trouble with woodturning. No real use for much, too much
> > fun to leave alone. You get yourself a lathe and the next thing is
> > you're turning everything in sight. There's a limit to how many turned
> > mathoms a chap needs.
>
> You can say that again, brother! I haven't been able to leave the stupid
> thing off since I got it, but I have no real use for anything I've been
> able to produce with it.
Well, you can make some dowels.
First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
reeds with a lathe. You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe. You
can't make exact duplication with a lathe. You can't make rosettes,
mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches.
What I would buy is a Legacy Ornamental Milling machine.
www.legacywoodworking.com If you are planning on a lathe, you should
see this machine first. Call for their free DVD at 1-800-279-4570
Remember, you have to almost be experienced when using a lathe. If you
are turning a couple of spindles and one turns out smaller than the
other, you are wasting material. With this machine, there is no real
experience needed.
A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.
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Sat, Jan 17, 2004, 8:31pm (EST-2) [email protected]
(Joe=A0"Woody"=A0Woodpecker) claims:
First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
reeds with a lathe. You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe. You
can't make exact duplication with a lathe. =A0 You can't make rosettes,
mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches. <snip>
The last sentence, I don't know about. But, the other things in
that paragraph, yes, they actually can be done on a lathe. No biggie.
Try reading a book or two on the subject.
JOAT
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you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
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OK, I would like to see or even have an explanation on how you would
make a spindle that looks like a three wrap twisted rope, only none of
the twists are touching each other except where the rope connects to the
square ends. Now remember the center of the rope is hollow, no wood
there.
Or a pedestal base for a table which is 5" in diameter and has 12 flutes
on a 1" taper over 2'. Each flute is 1\2" deep. And if that is all
that is on it, can you make it in less than a half an hour?
Sure leaves a lot of free time to do other projects, instead of
"playing" on a project.
Why don't you call for a DVD? 1-800-279-4570. THIS IS NOT SPAM AS I
HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH THE COMPANY. I just know what is easy to use
for the novice.
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Re: What can you do with a lathe? Do more with a legacy
Group: rec.woodworking Date: Sun, Jan 18, 2004, 12:08am (MST+2) From:
[email protected] (T.)
Sat, Jan 17, 2004, 8:31pm (EST-2) [email protected]
(Joe=A0"Woody"=A0Woodpecker) claims:
First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
reeds with a lathe. You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe. You
can't make exact duplication with a lathe. =A0 You can't make rosettes,
mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches. <snip>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The last sentence, I don't know about.
But, the other things in that paragraph, yes, they actually can be done
on a lathe. No biggie. Try reading a book or two on the subject.
JOAT
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you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
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Sun, Jan 18, 2004, 12:19pm (EST-2) [email protected]
(Joe=A0"Woody"=A0Woodpecker) says:
OK, I would like to see or even have an explanation <snip>
Or a pedestal base <snip>
Told you. There's books can tell you how to do it.
can you make it in less than a half an hour?
I'm not a production shop. I do woodworking for fun. So, why in
the name of the Seven Bouncing Hells would I care if I could do it in
half an hour, or not? I'd probably be slobbering over the thought of a
machine that could do something like that, if I did woodworking for a
significant, or total, part of my living. But, I don't, so I don't
care. However, if I did do it for a living, I'd probably already know
about it, and have one, passed on it already. or be saving for one.
Sure leaves a lot of free time to do other projects, instead of
"playing" on a project.
My woodworking IS play. I don't HAVE to stretch a 3 hour project
out to 3 days, but I often do. I could do the same quality work in the
3 hours, but if I did that all the time, that'd be work, not fun.
Getting paid for some of my stuff is just gravy.
Why don't you call for a DVD? <snip>
Because I don't wan' no steenkin' DVD.
I just know what is easy to use for the novice.
Sounds more like you're pimping for the company. Mention it once,
then if anyone's interested, they can check it out. Anything more than
that, it's annoying.
If it's that simple, it also sounds like it would get very boring,
very fast.
JOAT
You have two choices in life: You can dissolve into the mainstream, or
you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
- Alan Ashley-Pitt=A0=A0=A0
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
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Joe Woody Woodpecker wrote about a bunch of esoteric stuff.
You know, I've never even wanted to make any of those things, much less
needed to. My lathe makes duplicates, copiers are an add-on if you
really want one. I find that a ruler, and pencil, and a caliper does
just fine for dupes. My lathe decreases my blood pressure and makes my
wife happy. Programming a machine to do something is enjoyable, it's
coding. Been there, done that.
Dave in Fairfax
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[email protected] (Joe "Woody" Woodpecker) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> OK, I would like to see or even have an explanation on how you would
> make a spindle that looks like a three wrap twisted rope, only none of
> the twists are touching each other except where the rope connects to the
> square ends. Now remember the center of the rope is hollow, no wood
> there.
>
> Or a pedestal base for a table which is 5" in diameter and has 12 flutes
> on a 1" taper over 2'. Each flute is 1\2" deep. And if that is all
> that is on it, can you make it in less than a half an hour?
>
> Sure leaves a lot of free time to do other projects, instead of
> "playing" on a project.
>
> Why don't you call for a DVD? 1-800-279-4570. THIS IS NOT SPAM AS I
> HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH THE COMPANY. I just know what is easy to use
> for the novice.
>
Woody,
Haven't seen you here in a few months. It's be a wonderful few
months.
I think you not only miss the point, but you are misinformed also.
I have seen all of the items you mentioned made on a lathe - don't
know how they do it, but they do it. So the Legacy is not the ONLY
way to make these things.
Most of the people that make them can SELL them as ART (I know of some
who do), for much more than you could sell your robot made pieces for.
So the Legacy is not the only way to profitably make items (or
necessarily the MOST profitable way either).
I own a lathe and most of the projects I have done so far have little
or no usefulness (compared to my other woodworking projects - stools,
furniture, toys, etc). Yet I really enjoy working on the lathe - it
is almost theraputic. Don't think I would get the same enjoyment
using the legacy. Am I "playing?" Definitely! Would not have it any
other way.
Ask an artist if they could get a more realistic rendering of a
picture, in less time with paint-by-numbers rather than the
"old-fashioned" way of free-handing it with no formal plans and I
imagine that most would say "Yes." Ask them if they would consider
doing it that way and most would say "No."
Sounds like it is quite an impressive machine. But I couldn't let the
post go unanswered, lest anyone be discouraged from owning a lathe.
My lathe is definitely my "desert island" machine.
-Chris
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:31:06 -0700 (MST), [email protected] (Joe
"Woody" Woodpecker) wrote:
>First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
>reeds with a lathe.
You make a jig to go on it and add a router. I can flute with a
lathe, a router and a gutter jig made of three planks. For reeding I
don't even use the router, just a #66 Stanley.
>You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe.
If I want spirals, I'll go and buy some of the plethora of '20s
"Jacobean" that's around, then saw them off. I get matching spirals
easily, and I reduce the amount of this ugly stuff that's still out
there dodging the firewood pile.
Then I'll gouge out my eyeballs for inflicting more of this bloody
mock Tudor on the world.
>You can't make exact duplication with a lathe.
Nor can you with this. I can imagine it turning a baseball bat, but
lets see it make a gunstock or a pair of clogs..
>You can't make rosettes,
>mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches.
I can make tenons with a froe if I want to, and on occasion I've don
it. However it's not the best way, and neither is your Legacy machine.
>What I would buy is a Legacy Ornamental Milling machine.
This thing is 600 quid ! For that money I can have it hand-carved in
Bali. For 600 notes, I expect to get a Holtzappfell !
Here's a much cheaper version, if you really want barley-sugar twists
http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/routerlathe/
>A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.
Next you'll be telling me I need a few grands worth of tenoner before
I can make a rabbit hutch.
Sure, this is a great machine if you want to make twirlies all day,
and you have a need or market for that many twirlies. But if I wanted
to work in a twirly factory, I'd get a job in one. It's all too easy
to buy some expensive machines because they deliver factory production
levels, then find you must spend the next 25 years working on what's
now a production-line in a bank-owned factory to pay for them.
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:33:06 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Joe "Woody" Woodpecker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>: A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.
>
>
>Nonsense.
>
>
>The legacy ornamental mill can do a lot of nice things,
>and may be a sensible alternative to a lathe for
>spindle turning.
>
>But try making a bowl, a platter, a hollow form, etc.
>on one. You can't.
With the right attachment you can do a shallow bowl. Only small
undercuts allowed, I think.
>
>Besides, turning on a althe is just plain fun.
yes- in spades. I have only dabbled in both, lathe wins for shear
enjoyment, hands down. I would never consider my lathe a WASTE OF
MONEY. The legacy I used- time will tell, so far, it is just a big
dust catcher.
-Dan V.
Bridger wrote:
> and just what are you doing sitting typing at your computer?
Two things as far as I can tell, 1) a little "down" time, 2) gloating
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Silvan wrote:
> It got me a "that's nice dear" but this stupid CANDLE HOLDER, which I made
> in about two hours, out of a piece of wood left over from when my neighbor
> pruned her tree, got me laid.
> Something is just wrong with this picture folks.
> Maybe this is why so many people who take up turning wind up giving up
> flatwood. 100 hours of sweat gets a nod, while one hour of mindless fun
> gets you the key to the furry gates?
> What can you do with a lathe? Get laid! Chicks dig men who turn sticks.
Breathe. Take it easy, you're missing the point here (no pun). You've
learned something very valuable here. You can be rewarded for having
fun. Now, doesn't that feel better. ;-) It could be worse, she coulda
said, "Oh, Why don't you make some more of the Chess boards, at least we
can give those away. I have a headache." Now don't you feel better
about the whole thing.
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Silvan wrote:
> Oh, I feel fine about the whole thing. It's still slightly disturbing
> though. All these years, all this time wasted... I could have bought a
> lathe years ago and saved myself a thousand hours of work turning out
> things that made her nod and say "that's nice dear." :)
Well, the good news is that how you've got one, and soon new bearings.
In the meantime, you've got another box of blanks headed your way. Hope
the drive went well, I wouldn't want to be on the road right now. Just
got a rig out of the trash yesterday.
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:01:03 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Andrew Barss wrote:
>
>> Besides, turning on a althe is just plain fun.
>
>It can get you laid too. We saw some kind of pillar candle holder thingies
>at Target that made SWMBO go ooh and ahhh. I told her I could make one,
>and she didn't believe me.
>
>I made one, and it came out halfway decent, but far from perfect. I've only
>been turning for a month after all.
>
>She's been all over me for two hours now. Wearing her sexy underwear and
>everything. It's really amazing. All these things I've made in the shop
>over the years, and nothing has ever impressed her so much as this damn
>candle holder.
>
>Well, folks, you know what I'm going to be making tomorrow! :)
and just what are you doing sitting typing at your computer?
Bridger
Bridger wrote:
>>over the years, and nothing has ever impressed her so much as this damn
>>candle holder.
> and just what are you doing sitting typing at your computer?
I was waiting for the kids to go to bed. ;)
The more I think about it, the more sad it is in some ways. I spent a MONTH
on that damn chess box. I hand surfaced all the lumber with only two
low-quality hand planes. I wrestled my POS boat anchor table saw into
cutting the strips straight enough to glue up. I planed and glued, cut and
planed and glued, then planed and planed and PLANED to get that damn board
to come out right.
I cut the miters on the frames PERFECTLY, and I attached them with splines
for perfect alignment and no through joinery. I again wrestled with the
POS boat anchor to do finger joints for the box. No dado set, so I had to
do 3/32" fingers. Lots and lots of 3/32" fingers. I had to re-make the
finger jig three times, then cut, and cut, and cut. They didn't fit qutie
right, so I had to go between them with sandpaper wrapped around a popsicle
stick. All umpty gajillion fingers.
Then I planed and planed and planed and planed. Then I chiseled and planed
and planed and chiseled and screwed and nailed. Then I coated it with
around 10 coats of shellac and at least two coats of paste wax. THEN I
lined the damn thing with velvet, made velvet-covered trays for the pieces
one in walnut, one in maple, etc. etc. etc.
100 hours, easy. A month of spending every spare minute in the shop.
Gallons of sweat, sore arms, occasional blood. $60 in materials.
It got me a "that's nice dear" but this stupid CANDLE HOLDER, which I made
in about two hours, out of a piece of wood left over from when my neighbor
pruned her tree, got me laid.
Something is just wrong with this picture folks.
Maybe this is why so many people who take up turning wind up giving up
flatwood. 100 hours of sweat gets a nod, while one hour of mindless fun
gets you the key to the furry gates?
What can you do with a lathe? Get laid! Chicks dig men who turn sticks.
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[email protected] (Joe "Woody" Woodpecker) wrote in <29985-4009FDFA-
[email protected]>:
>First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
>reeds with a lathe. You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe. You
>can't make exact duplication with a lathe. You can't make rosettes,
>mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches.........etc.
Didn't Sears market this years ago as The Router Crafter for like $50??
Joe "Woody" Woodpecker <[email protected]> wrote:
: A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.
Nonsense.
The legacy ornamental mill can do a lot of nice things,
and may be a sensible alternative to a lathe for
spindle turning.
But try making a bowl, a platter, a hollow form, etc.
on one. You can't.
Besides, turning on a althe is just plain fun.
-- Andy Barss
You can make a bowl or platter with a legacy. And if you desire you can
make a set of salad bowls all in one afternoon EXACTLY ALIKE.
The legacy makes it funner because you don't spend so much 'time'
playing. Your work comes from sketched plans which has the exact bit to
use. You have to guess which type of wood chisel to use and you will
worry about tear out everytime you make something.
The legacy is just funner to use and is easier to use so you can finish
the job.
Besides, if bowels and pens are all you want to make, you should get a
mini lathe. But why spend $400 on a mini lathe when a full size lathe
is $650 and you can make stair spindles. Of course why spend $650 on a
full size lathe when you can spend $1000 on a true milling machine and
do 10 times more.
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Andrew=A0Barss wrote
>Joe "Woody" Woodpecker ><[email protected]> wrote:
>A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.
>>Nonsense.
>>The legacy ornamental mill can do a lot of nice
>>things, and may be a sensible alternative to a lathe
>>for spindle turning.
>>But try making a bowl, a platter, a hollow form,
>>etc. on one. You can't.
>>Besides, turning on a althe is just plain fun.
>>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0-- Andy Barss
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process and lack of understanding of what a hobby is:
> You can make a bowl or platter with a legacy. And if you desire you can
> make a set of salad bowls all in one afternoon EXACTLY ALIKE.
> The legacy makes it funner because you don't spend so much 'time'
> playing. Your work comes from sketched plans which has the exact bit to
> use. You have to guess which type of wood chisel to use and you will
> worry about tear out everytime you make something.
> The legacy is just funner to use and is easier to use so you can finish
> the job.
> Besides, if bowels and pens are all you want to make, you should get a
> mini lathe. But why spend $400 on a mini lathe when a full size lathe
> is $650 and you can make stair spindles. Of course why spend $650 on a
> full size lathe when you can spend $1000 on a true milling machine and
> do 10 times more.
You want to make everything alike
You want to do it as fast as possible
You don't want to think about which tool to use
You don't want to think about how to design the thing you're making
You don't want to learn technique
You want to finish the job
You don't have a clue on what lathes make what items
God I pity your wife
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Greetings and Salutations.
Well, thought I would toss my $0.02 in this pissing
contest....
I remember lusting over this sort of thing when
I was a teenager. It just looked too cool for words, because
it did not require me to spend any time learning a skill,
and would allow me to turn out ornate bits.
Well, I am older now...and while I think, on
occasion, it would be nice to have the toy, I don't lust
after it any longer.
In that continuing argument between Normites and
Neaders, my rule of thumb is that if the machine simply
makes it easier for your skill to turn out something,
it is still "hand made". If the only skill required is
to put stock in the machine and set it up, then, the
MACHINE does all the work, it is not hand work any longer.
Also, considering that this is a RECREATIONAL
group, I am not sure that we are that interested in production,
and, if we actually WERE, I suspect it would be worthwhile
to simply invest in a CNC router and let it crank out
parts in short order.
It is fine to use the Legacy mill. It is fine
NOT to use the Legacy mill...There are some things that
the Legacy will do easily that are harder and require more
skill to do on a lathe. There are things that a lathe
will do better and easier than the Legacy... No tool
will do everything.
Regards
Dave Mundt
In article <[email protected]>, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>bowels???
>
>dave
Dave, we all know that "Woody" is full of ... :-)
>
>Joe Woody Woodpecker wrote:
>>
>> Besides, if bowels and pens are all you want to make, you should get a
>> mini lathe.
>
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"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:ScWQb.4364
> Dave, we all know that "Woody" is full of ... :-)
Ayup. That would explain what comes out when he "expresses" himself...
Greg
Andy Dingley wrote:
> "Jacobean" that's around, then saw them off. I get matching spirals
> easily, and I reduce the amount of this ugly stuff that's still out
> there dodging the firewood pile.
LMAO!! Good on ya, Andy. The world will be a better place with that stuff
recycled into something less ugly.
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[email protected] wrote:
> In the meantime, you've got another box of blanks headed your way. Hope
Thanks!
> the drive went well, I wouldn't want to be on the road right now. Just
> got a rig out of the trash yesterday.
Home has never looked so good, let's put it that way.
South Carolina, North Carolina? Sorry y'all, but your highway crews SUCK at
dealing with that kind of stuff.
The trip started fine, until I got to the bottom of the mountain and crossed
the state line. North Carolina's snow plow was busy somewhere else. I
think South Carolina was using a road grader, since they don't have a snow
plow.
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Andrew Barss wrote:
> Besides, turning on a althe is just plain fun.
It can get you laid too. We saw some kind of pillar candle holder thingies
at Target that made SWMBO go ooh and ahhh. I told her I could make one,
and she didn't believe me.
I made one, and it came out halfway decent, but far from perfect. I've only
been turning for a month after all.
She's been all over me for two hours now. Wearing her sexy underwear and
everything. It's really amazing. All these things I've made in the shop
over the years, and nothing has ever impressed her so much as this damn
candle holder.
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Take her to a wood show where they have a legacy orminital mill and let
them show it to her. I'd bet if you bought one for her, you'd never get
to turn again. She'd use the legacy when you weren't home and be all
over you when you were just thanking you for buting it.
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Group: rec.woodworking Date: Sat, Jan 24, 2004, 10:01pm (MST+2) From:
[email protected] (Silvan)
Andrew Barss wrote:
Besides, turning on a althe is just plain fun.
It can get you laid too. We saw some kind of pillar candle holder
thingies at Target that made SWMBO go ooh and ahhh. I told her I could
make one, and she didn't believe me.
I made one, and it came out halfway decent, but far from perfect. I've
only been turning for a month after all.
She's been all over me for two hours now. Wearing her sexy underwear and
everything. It's really amazing. All these things I've made in the shop
over the years, and nothing has ever impressed her so much as this damn
candle holder.
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Joe Woody Woodpecker wrote:
> Take her to a wood show where they have a legacy orminital mill and let
> them show it to her. I'd bet if you bought one for her, you'd never get
> to turn again. She'd use the legacy when you weren't home and be all
> over you when you were just thanking you for buting it.
> Woody
Now you've proven that you not only don't understand hobbies, you're
clueless about women too. Getting there is at least half the fun.
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[email protected] wrote:
> said, "Oh, Why don't you make some more of the Chess boards, at least we
> can give those away. I have a headache." Now don't you feel better
> about the whole thing.
Oh, I feel fine about the whole thing. It's still slightly disturbing
though. All these years, all this time wasted... I could have bought a
lathe years ago and saved myself a thousand hours of work turning out
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:31:06 -0700 (MST), [email protected] (Joe
"Woody" Woodpecker) wrote:
<snip>
>A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.
Go away and sell your junk elsewhere.
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:01:03 -0500, Silvan <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Andrew Barss wrote:
>
>> Besides, turning on a althe is just plain fun.
>
>It can get you laid too.
Well next time remember to tuck in your shirt.<g>
Joe "Woody" Woodpecker said:
>What I would buy is a Legacy Ornamental Milling machine.
>www.legacywoodworking.com If you are planning on a lathe, you should
>see this machine first. Call for their free DVD at 1-800-279-4570
This is pretty heavy handed 'enthusiasm' for a product.
What... Did you get a new job? Arranged for kickbacks? <g>
>A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE THIS MACHINE.
Unless you turn bowls, pens, or simply enjoy using a lathe...
Not everyone wants to make 200 ornamental spindles.
FWIW,
Greg G.
I saw it at the wood show when it was here in Denver. It can do
everything a lathe can do and more. And for the price it is about the
same.
Would you buy a TS if you couldn't put a dado blade on it?
When you are making pens, bowles or whatever, should everyone you make
be different and look as though it has a problem with it? What does
that say about your craftmanship.
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>>Joe "Woody" Woodpecker said:
>>What I would buy is a Legacy Ornamental Milling
>>machine. www.legacywoodworking.com If you are
>>planning on a lathe, you should see this machine
>>first. Call for their free DVD at 1-800-279-4570
>This is pretty heavy handed 'enthusiasm' for a product.
>What... Did you get a new job? Arranged for kickbacks? <g>
>>A LATHE IS A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER YOU SEE
>>THIS MACHINE.
>Unless you turn bowls, pens, or simply enjoy using a lathe... Not
>everyone wants to make 200 ornamental spindles.
>FWIW,
>Greg G.
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:31:06 -0700 (MST), [email protected] (Joe "Woody"
Woodpecker) wrote:
>First off, I wouldn't own a lathe. You see you can't make flutes or
>reeds with a lathe. You can't make rope like spirals with a lathe. You
>can't make exact duplication with a lathe. You can't make rosettes,
>mortises, tenons, contours, dadoes and arches.
>
>What I would buy is a Legacy Ornamental Milling machine.
>www.legacywoodworking.com If you are planning on a lathe, you should
>see this machine first. Call for their free DVD at 1-800-279-4570
According to their website you can't do anything with the 400 so why sell it.
That was enough to know what a bunch of scam artists these guys are.
If they have video put it on the website.
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NoNameAtAll <[email protected]> typed:
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in
> shop class. I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time
> convncing my wife that I need it. We just made candle holders in shop
> class, and while I'm sure it's great for things like table legs,
> lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede that I really can't think
> of any practical uses for it since I don't have any need to make any
> of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would be
> kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that.
> If you can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of
> the usefulness of a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Seems to me if you don't have a need to make things "round" (like lamps,
table legs, bowls, pens, etc), then maybe you really don't need a lathe. If
you're taking a class with access to a lathe, maybe that will have to
satisfy your desire to turn.
There's lots to do - bowls, plates, spindles, chair legs and so on.
It sounds like you want the lathe to produce a whole project. That it
can do, limited only by what you think up.
If you're at all interested in chairmaking, you'll need one to make
chair parts. This is where it's a lieutenant in the process of making
something, like a jointer. You have a jointer, right? Yet the
jointer itself does make a finished item, it is something that's used
in the process. So it can be with a lathe.
On 14 Jan 2004 16:04:08 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
wrote:
>Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
>I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
>need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure it's
>great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
>that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have any
>need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
>be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
>can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
>a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
So how do you make a stair spindle that looks like rope which has been
untwisted and hollow in the center? Can you do that on a lathe?
BTW you can make a set of salad bowls, matching and exactly the same
size with so little measuring.
--
>Lazarus=A0Long wrote
>There's lots to do - bowls, plates, spindles, chair legs and so on.
>It sounds like you want the lathe to produce a whole project. That it
>can do, limited only by what you think up.
>If you're at all interested in chairmaking, you'll need one to make
>chair parts. This is where it's a lieutenant in the process of making
>something, like a jointer. You have a jointer, right? Yet the jointer
>itself does make a finished item, it is something that's used
>in the process. So it can be with a lathe.
>>NoNameAtAll wrote:
>>Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my
>>favorite tools in shop class. I'd love to own one, but
>>I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
>>need it. We just made candle holders in shop class,
>>and while I'm sure it's great for things like table
>>legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
>>that I really can't think of any practical uses for it
>>since I don't have any need to make any of those
>>things. Actually making a homemade baseball
>>bat would be kind of neat but it's tough to justify
>>buying a lathe just for that. If you can help me
>>convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the
>>usefulness of a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
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"Joe "Woody" Woodpecker"> wrote
So how do you make a stair spindle that looks like rope which has been
untwisted and hollow in the center? Can you do that on a lathe?
BTW you can make a set of salad bowls, matching and exactly the same
size with so little measuring.
*****************************
You're problem is that you are comparing apples to oranges, Beetle to
Porsche.
Can the legacy route an ogee edge on an installed countertop?
A lathe ain't a legacy and a legacy ain't a hammer.
Time to move on.
I'm a little slow on the uptake, but try this link:
http://www.outofcontrol-woodturning.com/FAVORITE.html
It's a bunch of woodturning links. If you and your wife can find some
things there that get your, uh, lathe spinning, then a lathe might be
a worthwhile investment. Also, check out rec.crafts.woodturning and
do an Internet search for segmented turnings. They're really quite
amazing, and inexpensive to make (if you believe what the master
turners say).
I started doing some research on getting a lathe (thanks a pantload,
Silvan <g>) and have decided that I can't possibly produce another
project until I have one of these amazing machines.
My problem is that I have Buy The Last One First Syndrome. I won't be
satisfied with anything less than top-notch. I held off on buying a
table saw for a year and a half because I couldn't find a cabinet saw
for a decent price. Now I have one, and couldn't be happier. Well,
until I discovered I needed a Oneway lathe. :(
-Phil Crow
[email protected] (NoNameAtAll) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Really haven't made anything very practical with my lathe. Probably
never will.
My other woodworking projects are similar to my work in that they are
large project which take a long time from start to finish, thus the
gratification is delayed (still enjoyed, but delayed). Also wood
costs some $$$.
With my lathe, I can take a scrap of wood from anywhere (drive around
after a windstorm) and in less than an hour create something very
satisfying. It also forever changes how you look at downed tree
limbs.
So if you used to enjoy it, definitely go out and get one. I can't
justify the price of my turning equiptment from what I have made, but
I also cannot put a price on the satisfaction I get from turning.
Tell THAT to SWMBO.
-Chris
[email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> My problem is that I have Buy The Last One First Syndrome. I won't be
> satisfied with anything less than top-notch. I held off on buying a
> table saw for a year and a half because I couldn't find a cabinet saw
> for a decent price. Now I have one, and couldn't be happier. Well,
> until I discovered I needed a Oneway lathe. :(
>
> -Phil Crow
Phil,
Having bought both some el-cheapo and some top-of-the-line woodturning
equiptment, may I suggest that you shop for a quality
middle-of-the-road lathe (maybe used). As long as it is sufficiently
rigid, you can easily work around most other shortcomings. Aim a
little higher in quality for the chisels - I have cheap, average, and
expensive - the best ones are WORTH the money. Buy the best (but not
necessarily the most expensive) if you want a chuck - anything less
will be a disappointment.
I bought an old Craftsman for $50 USD. It has many faults and I hope
to replace it someday. Meanwhile I still enjoy using it and am slowly
accumulating the quality accessories that I can someday transfer to my
new (well, probably used) lathe.
-Chris
Andy Dingley wrote:
> That's the trouble with woodturning. No real use for much, too much
> fun to leave alone. You get yourself a lathe and the next thing is
> you're turning everything in sight. There's a limit to how many turned
> mathoms a chap needs.
You can say that again, brother! I haven't been able to leave the stupid
thing off since I got it, but I have no real use for anything I've been
able to produce with it. Especially since I'm using extremely green wood
that warps like crazy as it dries. If I actually tried to use these
spindles for anything, I'd introduce enough stress into the resulting piece
to break nearly anything in short order.
So what I'm getting into personally is mushrooms. I got the idea from
someone's (Darrell Feltmate's, http://www.roundthewoods.com/mushroom.shtml)
newbie projects site, and I've been having a blast making these stupid
things.
I have no idea if the tool control I'm developing will prove useful for
spindles eventually or not, but I'm really happy with my results. My
mushrooms look at lot better (ie more like actual mushrooms) than
Darrell's.
He says he sells a boatload of them at craft shows. SWMBO does craft shows.
I'm using that as an excuse to turn all my little odd small branch scraps
into mushrooms. What the hell. It gives me some justification to continue
having fun anyway. That's the name of the game. :)
It's going to be a long time before I'm able to turn the chess sets which
were my primary use for this thing.
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I don't mean this to sound rude, but if you have to ask this question then
why do you even want a lathe in the first place?
Table legs, chair legs, any cylindrical parts (spindles, dowels, furniture
knobs and pulls), bowls, pens, etc. etc. etc. etc. Honestly, the lathe is
one of those things where creativity is key - so having to ask what you
would use it for sort of tells me you wouldn't really use it that much. I
personally don't have much experience with the lathe, but I plan on using it
in the future as I know it will enable me to be much more versatile in my
woodworking.
Mike
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop
class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife
that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure
it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to
concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have
any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat
would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If
you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the
usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
>I don't mean this to sound rude, but if you have to ask this question then
>why do you even want a lathe in the first place?
Mainly because I had fun using it many years ago in shop class. You mentioned
making pens, which sounds intriguiging. I'm sure I could make some nice gifts
through the course of the year that way. Can you make small things like that on
a big lathe or would I need a smaller lathe? In other words, could I make a
baseball bat and a pen on the same lathe? Making bowls might also be fun, and
would have some potential for gift-making.
[email protected] (NoNameAtAll) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >I don't mean this to sound rude, but if you have to ask this question then
> >why do you even want a lathe in the first place?
>
> Mainly because I had fun using it many years ago in shop class. You mentioned
> making pens, which sounds intriguiging. I'm sure I could make some nice gifts
> through the course of the year that way. Can you make small things like that on
> a big lathe or would I need a smaller lathe? In other words, could I make a
> baseball bat and a pen on the same lathe? Making bowls might also be fun, and
> would have some potential for gift-making.
Pens, christmas tree ornaments, yo-yo's, pepper mills, laser pointers,
...... just get a Woodcraft or Rockler catalog and look under lathe
and get lots of ideas for small kit type lathe projects. Then consider
bowls, plates, chess sets, turned boxes, and things of this nature
that are stand alone lathe projects not needing kits. Lastly think
knobs, legs, rails and other parts to go into bigger non-lathe
projects. I guess some people make their own "Wonder Boy" baseball
bats, but that will be about the last thing I will be making with my
lathe (if I ever learn how to turn and sharpen well enough that I can
honestly say that sandpaper is no longer my most important lathe
tool;)
Dave Hall
Yes, you can use a big lathe to make pens. And, as you probably surmise,
there is a limit to how big you can go with a smaller lathe. Right now I
just have a mini lathe. Eventually I'll go bigger, but since I don't know
crud about using the lathe I have, I don't see the need right now. If you
think you'll want to make larger items, it probably makes sense to get a
mid-sized lathe right off the bat.
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >I don't mean this to sound rude, but if you have to ask this question
then
> >why do you even want a lathe in the first place?
>
> Mainly because I had fun using it many years ago in shop class. You
mentioned
> making pens, which sounds intriguiging. I'm sure I could make some nice
gifts
> through the course of the year that way. Can you make small things like
that on
> a big lathe or would I need a smaller lathe? In other words, could I make
a
> baseball bat and a pen on the same lathe? Making bowls might also be fun,
and
> would have some potential for gift-making.
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop
class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife
that I
> need it.
=========================
I have owned a Lathe for close to 40 years BUT vary vary rarely NEED the
darn thing... BUT I find that using the Lathe is extremely a FUN way to
spend an afternoon, evening etc...
Honestly I have made my share of candle stick holders, plates, bowls, cups
etc...even got into making nut crackers at one time... not too many of my
"projects" require the use of a Lathe..... BUT I would never sell my
machine...just offers way too much fun and relaxation...
Bob Griffiths
Wed, Jan 14, 2004, 4:40pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bob=A0G)
says:
<snip> BUT I would never sell my machine...just offers way too much fun
and relaxation...
Gods yes. Don't need to make a thing, it's fun just to put a chunk
of wood in, and turn it down. But, if nothing else, always nice to turn
some mallets. Only had mine for about 8 years, I guess, $129 HF model,
works just fine.
JOAT
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you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
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T. wrote:
> Gods yes. Don't need to make a thing, it's fun just to put a chunk
> of wood in, and turn it down.
Fun to play "how much can I peel." I got almost all the way to the center
once before the shaving finally broke.
> But, if nothing else, always nice to turn
> some mallets. Only had mine for about 8 years, I guess, $129 HF model,
> works just fine.
Turned mallets are *awesome*. I had been using a rubber mallet for chisel
and other similar work. I had been meaning to buy a real mallet some day,
but never got around to it. Now I have two really nice ones, with just the
shape I wanted.
They sure are nice to use. I can also beat the living crap out of them,
since I can always make more.
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Sat, Jan 17, 2004, 11:17am [email protected] (Silvan)
says:
<snip> They sure are nice to use. I can also beat the living crap out of
them, since I can always make more.
Ah, now you're starting to learn. Use different types of wood,
even pine, make different sizes/lengths, and you wind up with mallets of
different weights. It's nice to have a real light one, so you can make
the real delicate cuts, even if you whack the chisel a bit harder than
you had intended. And, to have a honkin' big one, so you can really
beat on something. So far, the only one of mine that should be
replaced, is the one the dog got ahold of, and chewed up, but it's still
usable, so I haven't made another, yet..
JOAT
You have two choices in life: You can dissolve into the mainstream, or
you can be distinct. To be distinct is to be different. To be different,
you must strive to be what no one else but you can be.
- Alan Ashley-Pitt=A0=A0=A0
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
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Cape Cod Bob wrote:
> 4. Bend over for hours at that very awkward angle that kills your
> back - worse than making a bed
Maybe different with a lathe designed to sit on the floor... I have my JET
mini on a stand made from two endtables stacked on top of each other and
nailed together. It's a great height.
> 5. Get a lot of practice sharpening things that have strange shapes
You can say that again. Sharpening these things is a large part of the
battle.
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:27:18 -0500, Cape Cod Bob
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>What can you do with a lathe?
>
>1. Cover yourself with wood chips
>2. Make ugly candlesticks for everyone you've ever known
>3. Make enough small bowls to serve peanuts to those poor people who
>have your candlesticks
>4. Bend over for hours at that very awkward angle that kills your
>back - worse than making a bed
>5. Get a lot of practice sharpening things that have strange shapes
6. Cover your tools and equipment with wet wood and rust.
7. Spend an arm and a leg on gawdawfullyexpensive burl only to
have the bowl blow up in your face on the very last cut.
8. Spend $159 per new tool for each style new bowl you wish to make.
I could go on. I never felt the draw of the lathe, either, Bob.
Don't forget the 7 P's:
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What can you do with a lathe?
1. Cover yourself with wood chips
2. Make ugly candlesticks for everyone you've ever known
3. Make enough small bowls to serve peanuts to those poor people who
have your candlesticks
4. Bend over for hours at that very awkward angle that kills your
back - worse than making a bed
5. Get a lot of practice sharpening things that have strange shapes
T. wrote:
> Ah, now you're starting to learn. Use different types of wood,
I got a lathe for Christmas. A JET mini. Fun, but a black hole for time.
My shop smells like wet maple. Every surface in my shop is covered in wet
maple. I have my turning tools laying on the table saw, which hasn't been
turned on since Christmas. My workbench is covered with various bits of
wet maple in various stages of being cut up or split.
(My neighbor pruned her maple tree. My practice stock is a couple hundred
bf of maple in sizes ranging from 1" to 6" in diameter. More of the
latter, of course. Not sure what I'll do with the really small stuff.
Maybe have a nice bonfire at Beltane.)
> you had intended. And, to have a honkin' big one, so you can really
> beat on something. So far, the only one of mine that should be
I made one out of a 5x5 piece of red oak dunnage. It's whatever circle you
can reduce a 5" square to, and pretty damn solid.
I have several different ones now, and beat the hell out of them with
abandon. I can always make more. :)
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Juergen Hannappel wrote:
>> bf of maple in sizes ranging from 1" to 6" in diameter. More of the
>> latter, of course. Not sure what I'll do with the really small stuff.
>
> What a most unusual tree! Most trees that *I* know have more thin than
> thick branches...
Funny you should catch that. I said something different originally, then
discovered that I had accidentally deleted a big block of text when I read
through the post prior to sending it. I hastily rewrote that bit to fill
in the blank, and obviously got it wrong. :)
Very few 6" branches. Of course.
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Silvan <[email protected]> writes:
[...]
>
> (My neighbor pruned her maple tree. My practice stock is a couple hundred
> bf of maple in sizes ranging from 1" to 6" in diameter. More of the
> latter, of course. Not sure what I'll do with the really small stuff.
What a most unusual tree! Most trees that *I* know have more thin than
thick branches...
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Phisherman wrote:
> Having a lathe is like entering a time machine. Start using it and
> you think an hour goes by, but really it was the entire day passes by.
Too true. Makes one wish for windows in the shop. Step in at high sun,
step out, and it's dark outside. Dark? How did that happen?
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:35:48 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Tim Douglass wrote:
>
>> This points out one of the great things about a lathe - you really
>> don't need an expensive or fancy one to do awfully nice (and fun)
>> work. I have my Dad's old Sears Companion lathe he got maybe 35 years
>> ago. It's turned a lot of miscellaneous chair rungs, wooden mallets,
>> candlesticks etc. and probably didn't cost much over $100 new.
>
>Yeah, just don't say this too loud over on the woodturning newsgroup.
>They'll start talking about how if it doesn't weigh twice as much as your
>old Volkswagen, it's a piece of junk. :)
Heh. It's bolted to a bench he built. 2x4 frame supporting 6 drawers
full of junk. It may weigh more than the truck you drive!
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:04:08 +0000, NoNameAtAll wrote:
> If you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
In heaven there aint no beer (or toys), that's why we buy them here.
If she's a cook, tell her it's not a lathe but a device for making salad
bowls and candlesticks. One can never have enough salad bowls or
candlesticks.
If she's a gardener, tell her it's not a lathe but a device for making
mulch. Plants love mulch.
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:04:08 +0000, NoNameAtAll wrote:
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
One thing you can do with a lathe is transport yourself into a world far,
far away from nagging mates, fighting kids, etc.
Lathing is fun.
And if you show the SWMBO how the legacy works, she'll be begging you to
buy is so she can use it. Then you'll never regret the decision.
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Because of this irritating thread I went out and bought the cheapest =
lathe that HF had. It was the $129 old model but I got if for $79 since =
it is discontinued. Anyway so I set it up and having never used a lathe =
before I actually read the 3 pages of instructions and off I went. I now =
have 7 honey dippers a candle holder and a dice cup. What a hoot.
Puff
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in =
shop class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife =
that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure =
it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to =
concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't =
have any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball =
bat would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for =
that. If you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the =
usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
[email protected] wrote:
> I ain't gonna give up a chainsaw, but you've got a box of blanks headed
> you way. Try turning some of that pine you've got lying around, and any
> poplar that you can find.
I wonder how much wood I could get into a backpack? I know a place with a
lot of deadfall that isn't on National Forest land, so I could remove the
wood without going to prison, but it can't be reached by any sort of
vehicle.
Take a helluva long time to get a tree out one backpack at a time, wouldn't
it? :)
I'll have to go see what the wood actually is, to decide if any of it is
worth thinking about that kind of effort. It's a six mile hike to the wood
and back.
It fell a few years ago, so it won't be green. It might be spalted though.
Might be walnut or something for all I know.
Could be good for my assal fattalitis.
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:58:18 GMT, "Larry C"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Here's my advice and it's application goes way beyond whether to buy
>this lathe or not. It's always easier to get forgiveness than it is to
>get permission. See all the hassle you're going through trying to buy a
>lathe? You could have bought it, made her a bowl and a rolling pin
Even odds that if you make her the rolling pin you wear it for buying
the lathe without asking first. Making something she can hit you with
just doesn't seem smart.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Gene wrote:
> measured in minutes to hours. Some projects are useless, like the
> mushrooms mentioned. We call them "art" or "craft" depending on whether
> you have your lathe in a shop or studio :)
Not useless. Tie a couple of them to a string and you have a bola. Put one
on your desk and you have a paperweight. Put a bunch of them in a bag, and
you have a weapon almost as good as a sack of doorknobs.
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On 14 Jan 2004 16:04:08 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
wrote:
>Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
That's the trouble with woodturning. No real use for much, too much
fun to leave alone. You get yourself a lathe and the next thing is
you're turning everything in sight. There's a limit to how many turned
mathoms a chap needs.
I compromised and bought my Dad a lathe instead. If I want anything
round, I go and visit.
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Andy Dingley <[email protected]> writes:
> On 14 Jan 2004 16:04:08 GMT, [email protected] (NoNameAtAll)
> wrote:
>
>>Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop class.
>
> That's the trouble with woodturning. No real use for much, too much
> fun to leave alone. You get yourself a lathe and the next thing is
Like having a plane in the hand and eyeing the furniture for unbeveled
edges...
> you're turning everything in sight. There's a limit to how many turned
> mathoms a chap needs.
You can always give them away on your birthday or bring them to the
mathom house at Michel Delving...
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Silvan <[email protected]> writes:
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> It fell a few years ago, so it won't be green. It might be spalted though.
So be careful if working it, its dust might be rather hazardous to
your health.
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I love this question. Almost as much as I love turning wood.
There was an old Craftsman lathe in my basement that belonged to my father.
I looked at it for a few months and kept saying, "I should fire it up and
see if I might like turning." Well I did almost a year ago and I discovered
that I loved turning wood. I soon yearned for a newer, better lathe and
bought one. Now my third lathe will be delivered this Friday.
I turned all of my Christmas gifts this year: lamps, rolling pins, pens
sets, and bowls. Everyone loved them and was amazed that they were hand-made
by me. I even managed to sell several bowls in the mean-time.
My next challenge will be a complete chess set. I havn't quite worked myself
up to starting on that one yet. I am looking for the right design.
I do finish about 2 to 3 bowls a week, when the mood strikes me, and if I
have the wood handy. I always have a few pen kits laying around and may
knock one of those out once in a while. My true love is bowls though.
I have my father to thank for buying that used lathe on a whim and leaving
it to me. He only used it once as far as I know and that was to turn a
mallet which he gave me for Christmas one year about 10 years ago. I still
have it and I still use it.
Wood turning is a wonderful and fulfilling hobby and that alone is a good
enough reason to get even a small starter or pen lathe.
Leslie
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She's got tools, and she knows how to use them.
"NoNameAtAll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Way back in middle school the lathe was one of my favorite tools in shop
class.
> I'd love to own one, but I'm having a difficult time convncing my wife
that I
> need it. We just made candle holders in shop class, and while I'm sure
it's
> great for things like table legs, lamps, and baseball bats I have to
concede
> that I really can't think of any practical uses for it since I don't have
any
> need to make any of those things. Actually making a homemade baseball bat
would
> be kind of neat but it's tough to justify buying a lathe just for that. If
you
> can help me convince my wife (and myself for that matter) of the
usefulness of
> a lathe I'll be eternally grateful.
Non-turning uses for a lathe:
Variable speed power buffing. My friend comes over to polish the
aluminum trim for the car he's restoring.
Variable speed disk sander.
Variable speed drum sander.
Adjustable holder for building model rockets.
Making plugs and stoppers for various items around the house (drilled
holes, pipe ends, etc).
Winding thread/wire/ribbon onto spools.
Spending time teaching your kids to use it.