On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 19:44:34 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't think anyone is saying a radial arm saw is awful, horrible,
>
>most tools that get a bad rap are due to usage by the uninitiated
No, it's due to the intrinsic danger. These tools *are* dangerous.
>one has to be in physical control of the radial arm saw or it will
>grab
Not unless something goes wrong. If it does...
>
>cut speed has to be controlled manually and that has surprised a
>few people i am sure
Really? Tables saws are automatic? Bandsaws are automatic? Really?
>> terrible, evil. It just doesn't really have much use for the vast
>> majority of people. It does some things very well. As you said,
>> cutting large 4x4, 6x6, big rough lumber. Something very few people
>> do much of. If I owned a sawmill, I would likely have a radial arm
>> saw sitting around because it can cross cut a 24" wide board that is
>> 4 inches thick. But other than a sawmill, who needs that ability? A
>> radial arm saw is good for cross cutting up to about 24" I think.
>> 12" is the most almost anyone needs though. Crosscutting at 90
>> degrees only. Its not good to adjust the angle to 45 degrees or
>
>there were some higher end radial arm saws that did well with angles
>usually larger too like 14 or 16 inch saws
>
>> anything else. Not accurate except at 90 degrees only. Don't think
>> its safe or good at compound cuts either. Miter saws and sliding
>> miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does, except more
>> accurate and easier.
>
>blade technology also makes a big difference
>first time i used a freud on the skilsaw it really felt like a
>different saw
>
>> hammer a little trim nail exactly. Air guns are just better in most
>> cases. But like the radial arm saw, manual winging hammers are
>> needed in some specific situations.
>
>something about hammering nails sometimes it is just fun
>
>but palm nailers and air guns are a lot of fun too
>
>hammers will always be around but looks like fewer and fewer choices
>if you want a radial arm saw
You can thank the snowflakes. Remember, Radial Arm Saws are known to
cause cancer.
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
>> Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
>> except more accurate and easier.
>
> ...snip...
>
> Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
> a miter saw. Put a metal cutting blade on radial arm saw and make multiple
> passes, increasing the depth of cut each time. It takes time, but if the
> plate is properly secured and you have a lot of patience, you can make some
> extremely accurate cuts.
>
> Try cutting the steel for this on miter saw.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/JRkBl2y.jpg
>
Or try cutting dado's, or mounting a molding cutter, or do some horizontal
boring, or. Ripping a board with a miter or sliding miter saw. I have
done all of the above when I had a RAS.
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
...snip...
> Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
> except more accurate and easier.
...snip...
Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
a miter saw. Put a metal cutting blade on radial arm saw and make multiple
passes, increasing the depth of cut each time. It takes time, but if the
plate is properly secured and you have a lot of patience, you can make some
extremely accurate cuts.
Try cutting the steel for this on miter saw.
http://i.imgur.com/JRkBl2y.jpg
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:02:17 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> ...snip...
>>
>> > Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
>> > except more accurate and easier.
>>
>> ...snip...
>>
>> Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
>> a miter saw.
>
>
>I cut metal with a hacksaw, jigsaw, or reciprocating saw. Its also possible to cut on a table saw. Just put the metal cutting, grinder blade on it and run the metal against the fence.
>
>Several people have mentioned cutting dadoes and rabbets on the radial arm saw. I've heard that is deadly and dangerous. Not something I would want to do when I have a nice table saw to safely cut dadoes and rabbets.
>
>The radial arm saw can do lots of things. You can rip on the radial arm saw too! It just doesn't do much well. Its mediocre and/or dangerous for many of the things it does.
>
Actually the miter/chop saw is just as dangerous.
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 06:36:18 -0500, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> ...snip...
>>
>>> Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
>>> except more accurate and easier.
>>
>> ...snip...
>>
>> Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
>> a miter saw. Put a metal cutting blade on radial arm saw and make multiple
>> passes, increasing the depth of cut each time. It takes time, but if the
>> plate is properly secured and you have a lot of patience, you can make some
>> extremely accurate cuts.
>>
>> Try cutting the steel for this on miter saw.
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/JRkBl2y.jpg
>>
>
>Or try cutting dado's, or mounting a molding cutter, or do some horizontal
>boring, or. Ripping a board with a miter or sliding miter saw. I have
>done all of the above when I had a RAS.
You just need a GOOD Radial Arm Saw, and there was a LOT of JUNK
sold as Radial Arm Saws. I had a cheap Craftsman round arm and I
smashed it up before putting it on the ketrb. A good De-Walt, or even
the expensive craftsman, is a TOTALLY different animal. My neighbour's
old dewalt is extremely accurate, but ever since he had the motor
rewound, if it gets overloaded it reverses, and kicks the work out of
the saw - which DOES make it dangerous!!
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:oj3j2q$fi1$2
@dont-email.me:
> never bought a radial arm saw but they were once so popular
>
> am sure this has never been discussed here before
>
> guess everyone buys a mitre saw instead but i would take a radial arm
> saw if i saw one on the curb
>
>
> good for large rough lumber
>
> four bys and six bys etc
Here's the problem: They can't be made cheap. A RAS can be a very useful
addition to a shop, but you've got to buy a good one. The SCMS or even CMS
can be made at a sub-200 price point and give "good enough" cuts, while a
cheap RAS will never hold its settings.
My RAS is an old DeWalt I've tuned up and it's the most accurate saw in the
shop.
These saws are easy to use incorrectly--do you start with the wood trapped
between blade and fence and push the sawblade away from you? I saw people
advocating that method on an internet discussion (I know, Bon Jour!).
Positive or negative hook blade? When do you lock the carriage?
When something brown shorts worthy happens on a RAS (and I'm not talking
about the UPS man), what usually occurs?
Puckdropper
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On 6/29/2017 11:02 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:oj3j2q$fi1$2
> @dont-email.me:
>
[snip]
>> good for large rough lumber
>>
>> four bys and six bys etc
>
> Here's the problem: They can't be made cheap. A RAS can be a very useful
> addition to a shop, but you've got to buy a good one. The SCMS or even CMS
> can be made at a sub-200 price point and give "good enough" cuts, while a
> cheap RAS will never hold its settings.
>
> My RAS is an old DeWalt I've tuned up and it's the most accurate saw in the
> shop.
That's it in a nutshell. A GOOD RAS that's been accurately
tuned/adjusted is a marvelous tool that can do just about anything to a
piece of wood that needs to be done (save for breaking down a a large
panel into something manageable, but that's why we have circular saws)
I've got an old Craftsman (ca 1968-69) that is a gem. Built cabinets,
furniture, remodeling and new construction with it for years before
finally landing a deal on a Jet Cabinet saw. Still have and
occasionally use the RAS.
>
> These saws are easy to use incorrectly--do you start with the wood trapped
> between blade and fence and push the sawblade away from you? I saw people
> advocating that method on an internet discussion (I know, Bon Jour!).
> Positive or negative hook blade? When do you lock the carriage?
Seen folks advocating that push to cut as well. Scary. I always pull
it through the cut and so long as you are bright enough to realize that
the blade will have a tendency to "help" itself through the cut and work
to counteract that, you're fine. If you aren't smart enough to realize
it, then maybe you should find another hobby.
>
> When something brown shorts worthy happens on a RAS (and I'm not talking
> about the UPS man), what usually occurs?
I know, but I'm not sure how to post blade jammed and motor cooking off.
;-)
On 7/3/2017 9:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 19:44:34 -0700, Electric Comet
> <[email protected]> wrote:
[snip]
>> hammers will always be around but looks like fewer and fewer choices
>> if you want a radial arm saw
>
> You can thank the snowflakes. Remember, Radial Arm Saws are known to
> cause cancer.
But only when used to saw wood and wood byproducts over a long period of
time without using a HAZMAT suit and breathing apparatus.
Hell, even the Saw Stop carries a risk of cancer. Haven't you read
about the potential heath risks of nitrates in those hot dogs they cut up?
;-)
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 18:13:15 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 6/29/2017 3:12 PM, Markem wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:09:48 -0700, Electric Comet
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> am sure this has never been discussed here before
>>
>> To infinite ad nauseam, and all the tangents possible maybe!
>>
>
>At one time almost as much as the SawStop.
Gass sucks!
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 10:28:39 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:02:17 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > ...snip...
> >
> > > Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
> > > except more accurate and easier.
> >
> > ...snip...
> >
> > Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
> > a miter saw.
>
>
> I cut metal with a hacksaw, jigsaw, or reciprocating saw. Its also possible to cut on a table saw. Just put the metal cutting, grinder blade on it and run the metal against the fence.
Look at the edges on the pieces of steel shown in the image I posted. Do
you really think you could produce an edge like that on a 3/8" thick
plate with hacksaw, jigsaw, or reciprocating saw? Would you really try to
cut pieces that small on a table saw?
There is no way you could produce those results with any of the tools you've
mentioned.
Besides, your claim was that "Miter saws and sliding miter saws do
everything the radial arm saw does, except more accurate and easier."
Bull. They can't do this:
http://i.imgur.com/JRkBl2y.jpg
I don't think anyone is saying a radial arm saw is awful, horrible, terribl=
e, evil. It just doesn't really have much use for the vast majority of peo=
ple. It does some things very well. As you said, cutting large 4x4, 6x6, =
big rough lumber. Something very few people do much of. If I owned a sawm=
ill, I would likely have a radial arm saw sitting around because it can cro=
ss cut a 24" wide board that is 4 inches thick. But other than a sawmill, =
who needs that ability? A radial arm saw is good for cross cutting up to a=
bout 24" I think. 12" is the most almost anyone needs though. Crosscuttin=
g at 90 degrees only. Its not good to adjust the angle to 45 degrees or an=
ything else. Not accurate except at 90 degrees only. Don't think its safe=
or good at compound cuts either. Miter saws and sliding miter saws do eve=
rything the radial arm saw does, except more accurate and easier.
An analogy. Hammers. Compared to air guns. Everyone owns a hammer or man=
y. Cheap and easy to use. But if you go to a professional house building,=
construction site, you will see few hammers being used. Everyone will hav=
e one swinging from their belt. But not using them. Air guns are faster a=
nd better for nailing wood together. Take installing trim. An air gun can=
shoot a 15, 16, 18 gauge nail exactly where you want. Harder to precisely=
nail with a hammer a little trim nail exactly. Air guns are just better i=
n most cases. But like the radial arm saw, manual winging hammers are need=
ed in some specific situations.
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 2:09:51 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> never bought a radial arm saw but they were once so popular
>=20
> am sure this has never been discussed here before
>=20
> guess everyone buys a mitre saw instead but i would take a radial arm
> saw if i saw one on the curb
>=20
>=20
> good for large rough lumber
>=20
> four bys and six bys etc
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 22:18:17 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 7/3/2017 9:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 19:44:34 -0700, Electric Comet
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>> hammers will always be around but looks like fewer and fewer choices
>>> if you want a radial arm saw
>>
>> You can thank the snowflakes. Remember, Radial Arm Saws are known to
>> cause cancer.
>
>But only when used to saw wood and wood byproducts over a long period of
>time without using a HAZMAT suit and breathing apparatus.
>
>Hell, even the Saw Stop carries a risk of cancer. Haven't you read
>about the potential heath risks of nitrates in those hot dogs they cut up?
>
>;-)
>
ROTFL, You owe me a new screen protector. Don't forget the ozone that
the motor puts out.
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 15:34:12 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:02:17 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> ...snip...
>>>
>>> > Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
>>> > except more accurate and easier.
>>>
>>> ...snip...
>>>
>>> Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
>>> a miter saw.
>>
>>
>>I cut metal with a hacksaw, jigsaw, or reciprocating saw. Its also possible to cut on a table saw. Just put the metal cutting, grinder blade on it and run the metal against the fence.
>>
>>Several people have mentioned cutting dadoes and rabbets on the radial arm saw. I've heard that is deadly and dangerous. Not something I would want to do when I have a nice table saw to safely cut dadoes and rabbets.
>>
>>The radial arm saw can do lots of things. You can rip on the radial arm saw too! It just doesn't do much well. Its mediocre and/or dangerous for many of the things it does.
>>
>Actually the miter/chop saw is just as dangerous.
Not at all. They don't come to get you.
On 6/29/2017 3:12 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:09:48 -0700, Electric Comet
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> am sure this has never been discussed here before
>
> To infinite ad nauseam, and all the tangents possible maybe!
>
At one time almost as much as the SawStop.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:02:17 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > ...snip...
> >
> > > Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
> > > except more accurate and easier.
> >
> > ...snip...
> >
> > Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
> > a miter saw.
>
>
> I cut metal with a hacksaw, jigsaw, or reciprocating saw. Its also possible to cut on a table saw. Just put the metal cutting, grinder blade on it and run the metal against the fence.
>
> Several people have mentioned cutting dadoes and rabbets on the radial arm saw. I've heard that is deadly and dangerous.
Heard from who? Do you own one yourself? Have you ever? If not then
perhaps you shouldn't be arguing with people who do.
> Not something I would want to do when I have a nice table saw to safely
> cut dadoes and rabbets.
>
> The radial arm saw can do lots of things. You can rip on the radial arm saw too! It just doesn't do much well. Its mediocre and/or dangerous for many of the things it does.
Based on what experience?
On 6/30/2017 10:54 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 06:36:18 -0500, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> ...snip...
>>>
>>>> Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
>>>> except more accurate and easier.
>>>
>>> ...snip...
>>>
>>> Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
>>> a miter saw. Put a metal cutting blade on radial arm saw and make multiple
>>> passes, increasing the depth of cut each time. It takes time, but if the
>>> plate is properly secured and you have a lot of patience, you can make some
>>> extremely accurate cuts.
>>>
>>> Try cutting the steel for this on miter saw.
>>>
>>> http://i.imgur.com/JRkBl2y.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Or try cutting dado's, or mounting a molding cutter, or do some horizontal
>> boring, or. Ripping a board with a miter or sliding miter saw. I have
>> done all of the above when I had a RAS.
> You just need a GOOD Radial Arm Saw, and there was a LOT of JUNK
> sold as Radial Arm Saws. I had a cheap Craftsman round arm and I
> smashed it up before putting it on the ketrb. A good De-Walt, or even
> the expensive craftsman, is a TOTALLY different animal.
I actually did all of the above with a Craftsman RAS, new 1979 ish.
My neighbour's
> old dewalt is extremely accurate, but ever since he had the motor
> rewound, if it gets overloaded it reverses, and kicks the work out of
> the saw - which DOES make it dangerous!!
>
Crap!
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:49:49 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 6/29/2017 3:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does=
, except more accurate and easier.
>=20
> Well, not dadoes & rabbets.
The only reason I still have mine around is just for those two reasons. Al=
though I don't know why at this time... I haven't built but a handful of ca=
binets in the last ten years.
When I did a lot of office/warehouse finish outs they spec'd out "paint gra=
de" cabinets, and it was a snap to dado in the sides for permanent shelf pl=
acement. Likewise, turn the motor parallel to he fence and do rabbets.
Unless the fully spec the cabinets, I go to HD and buy their unfinished oak=
cabs, ready for paint. I take the doors off, spray the carcass, then the =
doors and reassemble. MUCH cheaper time/labor/material wise than building =
them from scratch at this point, and the customers are more impressed with =
getting the color they want than the quality of the cabinets. Besides, if =
the cabs are a bit flimsy, it is easy enough to reinforce the frames, drawe=
rs, etc. as needed.
Guess I should put the saw out to the curb for EC.
Robert
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 20:15:30 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>>
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:02:17 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> > On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> > ...snip...
>> >
>> > > Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
>> > > except more accurate and easier.
>> >
>> > ...snip...
>> >
>> > Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
>> > a miter saw.
>>
>>
>> I cut metal with a hacksaw, jigsaw, or reciprocating saw. Its also possible to cut on a table saw. Just put the metal cutting, grinder blade on it and run the metal against the fence.
>>
>> Several people have mentioned cutting dadoes and rabbets on the radial arm saw. I've heard that is deadly and dangerous.
>
>Heard from who? Do you own one yourself? Have you ever? If not then
>perhaps you shouldn't be arguing with people who do.
>
>> Not something I would want to do when I have a nice table saw to safely
>> cut dadoes and rabbets.
>>
>> The radial arm saw can do lots of things. You can rip on the radial arm saw too! It just doesn't do much well. Its mediocre and/or dangerous for many of the things it does.
>
>Based on what experience?
If I could only have ONE power woodworking tool it would be the best
radial arm saw I could get my hands on, with all the attachments
available for it.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:09:48 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:
>am sure this has never been discussed here before
To infinite ad nauseam, and all the tangents possible maybe!
On 6/29/2017 3:12 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:09:48 -0700, Electric Comet
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> am sure this has never been discussed here before
>
> To infinite ad nauseam, and all the tangents possible maybe!
>
At one time almost as much as the SawStop.
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:02:17 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
> > Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
> > except more accurate and easier.
>
> ...snip...
>
> Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
> a miter saw.
I cut metal with a hacksaw, jigsaw, or reciprocating saw. Its also possible to cut on a table saw. Just put the metal cutting, grinder blade on it and run the metal against the fence.
Several people have mentioned cutting dadoes and rabbets on the radial arm saw. I've heard that is deadly and dangerous. Not something I would want to do when I have a nice table saw to safely cut dadoes and rabbets.
The radial arm saw can do lots of things. You can rip on the radial arm saw too! It just doesn't do much well. Its mediocre and/or dangerous for many of the things it does.
Put a metal cutting blade on radial arm saw and make multiple
> passes, increasing the depth of cut each time. It takes time, but if the
> plate is properly secured and you have a lot of patience, you can make some
> extremely accurate cuts.
>
> Try cutting the steel for this on miter saw.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/JRkBl2y.jpg
On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:09:51 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> never bought a radial arm saw but they were once so popular
>
> am sure this has never been discussed here before
>
> guess everyone buys a mitre saw instead but i would take a radial arm
> saw if i saw one on the curb
>
>
> good for large rough lumber
>
> four bys and six bys etc
They are good for precision cutting of 1/2" and 3/8" steel plate.
Hey, how about a picture!
All 5 pieces of steel for this Soap Box Derby axle mount were cut on a radial
arm saw. Everything from the large triangular piece on the bottom to the small
rectangle on the top. (The piece running horizontal across the image is the
axle)
http://i.imgur.com/JRkBl2y.jpg
You just have to make sure that you keep the sheet of plywood protecting the
wall behind the blade very moist.
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 22:18:17 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 7/3/2017 9:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 19:44:34 -0700, Electric Comet
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>> hammers will always be around but looks like fewer and fewer choices
>>> if you want a radial arm saw
>>
>> You can thank the snowflakes. Remember, Radial Arm Saws are known to
>> cause cancer.
>
>But only when used to saw wood and wood byproducts over a long period of
>time without using a HAZMAT suit and breathing apparatus.
>
>Hell, even the Saw Stop carries a risk of cancer. Haven't you read
>about the potential heath risks of nitrates in those hot dogs they cut up?
>
>;-)
>
Don't expect to live long if you eat one, either.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 9:02:17 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> ...snip...
>>
>> > Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does,
>> > except more accurate and easier.
>>
>> ...snip...
>>
>> Not everything. It's pretty hard to cut a 12" wide, 3/8" thick steel plate on
>> a miter saw.
>
>
>I cut metal with a hacksaw, jigsaw, or reciprocating saw. Its also possible to cut on a table saw. Just put the metal cutting, grinder blade on it and run the metal against the fence.
>
>Several people have mentioned cutting dadoes and rabbets on the radial arm saw. I've heard that is deadly and dangerous. Not something I would want to do when I have a nice table saw to safely cut dadoes and rabbets.
These cuts aren't dangerous because the blade can't be pinched. It's
rips that are dangerous (crosscuts much less so).
>The radial arm saw can do lots of things. You can rip on the radial arm saw too! It just doesn't do much well. Its mediocre and/or dangerous for many of the things it does.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Put a metal cutting blade on radial arm saw and make multiple
>> passes, increasing the depth of cut each time. It takes time, but if the
>> plate is properly secured and you have a lot of patience, you can make some
>> extremely accurate cuts.
>>
>> Try cutting the steel for this on miter saw.
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/JRkBl2y.jpg
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:51:25 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
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>I don't think anyone is saying a radial arm saw is awful, horrible, terrible, evil. It just doesn't really have much use for the vast majority of people. It does some things very well. As you said, cutting large 4x4, 6x6, big rough lumber. Something very few people do much of. If I owned a sawmill, I would likely have a radial arm saw sitting around because it can cross cut a 24" wide board that is 4 inches thick. But other than a sawmill, who needs that ability? A radial arm saw is good for cross cutting up to about 24" I think. 12" is the most almost anyone needs though. Crosscutting at 90 degrees only. Its not good to adjust the angle to 45 degrees or anything else. Not accurate except at 90 degrees only. Don't think its safe or good at compound cuts either. Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does, except more accurate and easier.
Try making a bowl with a miter saw. Try making a 1.5" x .75" X 10"
stick with a miter saw. Yeah, there is a bunch of things to do with a
radial arm saw.
And accuracy is the job of the user to determine.
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On 6/29/2017 3:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Miter saws and sliding miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does, except more accurate and easier.
Well, not dadoes & rabbets.
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I don't think anyone is saying a radial arm saw is awful, horrible,
terrible, evil.
*** No only a Delta RAS is awful, horrible, terrible & evil. Most others
are fine within their power and size specifications.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't think anyone is saying a radial arm saw is awful, horrible,
most tools that get a bad rap are due to usage by the uninitiated
one has to be in physical control of the radial arm saw or it will
grab
cut speed has to be controlled manually and that has surprised a
few people i am sure
> terrible, evil. It just doesn't really have much use for the vast
> majority of people. It does some things very well. As you said,
> cutting large 4x4, 6x6, big rough lumber. Something very few people
> do much of. If I owned a sawmill, I would likely have a radial arm
> saw sitting around because it can cross cut a 24" wide board that is
> 4 inches thick. But other than a sawmill, who needs that ability? A
> radial arm saw is good for cross cutting up to about 24" I think.
> 12" is the most almost anyone needs though. Crosscutting at 90
> degrees only. Its not good to adjust the angle to 45 degrees or
there were some higher end radial arm saws that did well with angles
usually larger too like 14 or 16 inch saws
> anything else. Not accurate except at 90 degrees only. Don't think
> its safe or good at compound cuts either. Miter saws and sliding
> miter saws do everything the radial arm saw does, except more
> accurate and easier.
blade technology also makes a big difference
first time i used a freud on the skilsaw it really felt like a
different saw
> hammer a little trim nail exactly. Air guns are just better in most
> cases. But like the radial arm saw, manual winging hammers are
> needed in some specific situations.
something about hammering nails sometimes it is just fun
but palm nailers and air guns are a lot of fun too
hammers will always be around but looks like fewer and fewer choices
if you want a radial arm saw