On 3/27/2014 4:14 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/EevuB
>
>
> Rob
>
3139, tea strengthener, to boost the
cuppa.
3140, beaker holder for chemistry.
3141, decorator lug nut for Egyptian
chariot.
3142, pipe reamer of some kind, or
hole reamer.
3143, some kind of push button counter.
Two counters. Set up so as to provide two
separate counts.
3144, fence tool?
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On Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:33:59 AM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
> 3142 reamer for a brace (wish I had this one) -- Jeff
Some years ago, I inherited one.... and 2 smaller wider angled ones I've us=
ed for tapering screw holes. I've never been presented with a hole to be r=
eamed with the larger one, nor can I think of a specific woodworking applic=
ation. I don't suppose it should be used on metal applications.
What might be specific woodworking application(s) the large reamer be used =
for?
Sonny
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:02:52 PM UTC-5, Rob H. wrote:
> >> 3139 : Bee Hive Smoker.
>> > No one has guessed the right answer for it yet, I'm not sure if this is a reproduction or an original, but these were used until the early 1800s.
Not since the early 1800s? A fishing bait (cricket) canister? A queen bee canister?
Sonny
On 3/27/2014 4:39 AM, shazzbat wrote:
>
>
> "Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/EevuB
>
>
> Rob
>
> 3141. I'm fairly sure this is a nut. Or possibly a fence tool.
>
> Steve
>
At 2 1/8 diameter, that's some big kind of cap
nut. And why the decorative engraving?
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On 4/3/2014 12:49 AM, DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2014-04-02, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Stormin Mormon says...
>>>
>>> On 3/31/2014 6:52 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>>> Here is a good explanation for swaging a circular rip saw.
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> I keep looking at the posts, but have
>>> not seen answers, in the subject line.
>>> Have they been posted?
>>>
>>
>> Sometimes I forget
>
> You forget to *post* that the answers are up, but not to put the
> answers up. I usually look at the site for the answers before I ever
> get to reading usenet for the evening.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
>
Funny, I have never seen Rob forget to post that the answers are up.
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/EevuB
>
>
> Rob
>
>
Running an analysis...
My first guess is that 3143 was a production line quality control counter
mounted to a small run or slow production line.
Both buttons have red residue on them. The angle of the buttons suggest
automation.
Counter A counts all the objects on the line up to that point.
Counter B counts remaining objects that pass by.
Between the two, someone or some contrivance pushes or drops damaged,
underweight overweight or otherwise out of spec items off the conveyor.
The difference between the two counters gives a quality control tally.
Possibility B...
A counter that goes up to 999,999 and some poor sod with red paint on his hands
had to push the buttons.
On 3/27/2014 4:14 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/EevuB
>
>
> Rob
>
3139 Something to feed plants
3141 nut for a wheel axle or some other decorative nut.
3142 reamer for a brace (wish I had this one)
3143 lap counters for 2 events... might be for race cars one might be
overall laps, the other laps since pitting or filling up.
3144 swaging tool (tool and die)
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"Rob H." wrote:
>
> > I'm curious about the one described as a saw set. It looks
> >rather large -- unless it is for sawmill sized saw blades -- or perhaps
> >for the two-man saws used for firewood and trees.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > DoN.
>
> You're right about it being for larger saws, I think it was for crosscut saws
> that were used on trees, as you mentioned. The actual size of this saw set is 3-
> 1/4", I had incorrectly marked it as 2-1/2". I posted this tool a long time ago
> and didn't have an answer for it until Leon sent me some information on it.
>
> Rob
It is what sawyers call an upset swage or hammer swage.
It is a variation on the swages used for circular saws
In this image the top two are for circular saws and the bottom one
is for crosscut.
http://members.acmenet.net/~con12a/saw%20set%20website/hammer%20swage.jpg
A "saw set" OTOH is used to bend saw teeth. Usually every other tooth
is bent in the opposite direction this is done to create kerf clearance.
A upset swage is a forging tool that forms the tooth metal back to
its original shape by hammer blows. There are also lever type swages
where one uses a hand crank to shape the tooth.
Here is a good explanation for swaging a circular rip saw.
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,5106.msg69109.html#msg69109
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
> On 3/31/2014 6:52 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> Here is a good explanation for swaging a circular rip saw.
>>> http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,5106.msg69109.html#msg69109
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the information, I added 'hammer swage' to my answer for it.
>>
>
> I keep looking at the posts, but have
> not seen answers, in the subject line.
> Have they been posted?
>
Look at Rob's post dated 3/28
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On 3/27/2014 9:13 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:33:59 AM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
>> 3142 reamer for a brace (wish I had this one) -- Jeff
>
> Some years ago, I inherited one.... and 2 smaller wider angled ones I've used for tapering screw holes. I've never been presented with a hole to be reamed with the larger one, nor can I think of a specific woodworking application. I don't suppose it should be used on metal applications.
>
> What might be specific woodworking application(s) the large reamer be used for?
>
> Sonny
>
Certainly it can be used for metal work.
You think braces were limited to wood. A good reamer is perfect for a
brace.
Good for sheet metal work, enlarging a hole.
Good for putting a taper on aluminum block. Aluminum is a grabby medium
for machines.. The slow cutting of the brace would allow it to be
cleaned better, and it would prevent galling to some degree... with the
proper aluminum cutting oil of course, not the same as normal cutting oil.
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This week's set has been posted:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Larger images:
http://imgur.com/a/EevuB
Rob
3141. I'm fairly sure this is a nut. Or possibly a fence tool.
Steve
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> 3139 : Bee Hive Smoker.
>
Hmm, so this was wrong but I've definitely seen these before too. I don't
think it simply and incense burner.......No, this one has got my brain
ticking.
In rec.puzzles Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
It's rather large but 3141 looks like its one of those decorative nuts
that hold down a toilet to the floor.
-bruce
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On 3/27/2014 3:14 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/EevuB
>
>
> Rob
>
3141 maybe a nut to hold the steering wheel on an old car
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In article <[email protected]>, David B says...
>
>"David B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>> 3139 : Bee Hive Smoker.
>>
>
>Hmm, so this was wrong but I've definitely seen these before too. I don't
>think it simply and incense burner.......No, this one has got my brain
>ticking.
>
No one has guessed the right answer for it yet, I'm not sure if this is a
reproduction or an original, but these were used until the early 1800s.
>Running an analysis...
>
>
>My first guess is that 3143 was a production line quality control counter
>mounted to a small run or slow production line.
>
>Both buttons have red residue on them. The angle of the buttons suggest
>automation.
>
>Counter A counts all the objects on the line up to that point.
>
>Counter B counts remaining objects that pass by.
>
>Between the two, someone or some contrivance pushes or drops damaged,
>underweight overweight or otherwise out of spec items off the conveyor.
>
>The difference between the two counters gives a quality control tally.
>
>Possibility B...
>
>A counter that goes up to 999,999 and some poor sod with red paint on his hands
>had to push the buttons.
Another good sounding guess but I don't know if we'll ever get a verifiable
answer for this one.
> I'm curious about the one described as a saw set. It looks
>rather large -- unless it is for sawmill sized saw blades -- or perhaps
>for the two-man saws used for firewood and trees.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
You're right about it being for larger saws, I think it was for crosscut saws
that were used on trees, as you mentioned. The actual size of this saw set is 3-
1/4", I had incorrectly marked it as 2-1/2". I posted this tool a long time ago
and didn't have an answer for it until Leon sent me some information on it.
Rob
>It is what sawyers call an upset swage or hammer swage.
>It is a variation on the swages used for circular saws
>In this image the top two are for circular saws and the bottom one
>is for crosscut.
>http://members.acmenet.net/~con12a/saw%20set%20website/hammer%20swage.jpg
>
>A "saw set" OTOH is used to bend saw teeth. Usually every other tooth
>is bent in the opposite direction this is done to create kerf clearance.
>
>A upset swage is a forging tool that forms the tooth metal back to
>its original shape by hammer blows. There are also lever type swages
>where one uses a hand crank to shape the tooth.
>
>Here is a good explanation for swaging a circular rip saw.
>http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,5106.msg69109.html#msg69109
Thanks for the information, I added 'hammer swage' to my answer for it.
In article <[email protected]>, Stormin Mormon says...
>
>On 3/31/2014 6:52 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> Here is a good explanation for swaging a circular rip saw.
>>>
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,5106.msg69109.html#msg69109
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the information, I added 'hammer swage' to my answer for it.
>>
>
>I keep looking at the posts, but have
>not seen answers, in the subject line.
>Have they been posted?
>
Sometimes I forget
DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2014-04-02, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Stormin Mormon says...
>>>
>>> On 3/31/2014 6:52 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>>> Here is a good explanation for swaging a circular rip saw.
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> I keep looking at the posts, but have
>>> not seen answers, in the subject line.
>>> Have they been posted?
>>>
>>
>> Sometimes I forget
>
> You forget to *post* that the answers are up, but not to put the
> answers up. I usually look at the site for the answers before I ever
> get to reading usenet for the evening.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
>
No definitive reason has been found yet for the two counters but the
rest of the
answers have been posted:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/03/set-538.html#answers
Rob
On 3/31/2014 6:52 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Here is a good explanation for swaging a circular rip saw.
>> http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,5106.msg69109.html#msg69109
>
>
> Thanks for the information, I added 'hammer swage' to my answer for it.
>
I keep looking at the posts, but have
not seen answers, in the subject line.
Have they been posted?
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On 2014-03-27, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Larger images:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/EevuB
Posting in the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking as
always.
3139) Interesting. In part it looks like a whistle, including the
fipple formed half by the wood and half by the end of slot.
But -- if it were a musical whistle, it would have larger holes
on the side, and with variable spacing and sizes to tune them to
specific notes.
And the perforated cone would not be there at all.
Perhaps it could be a whistle which is powered by a vacuum drawn
through the perforated cone.
The shape of the fipple appears wrong for it to be powered by
steam fed in through the perforated cone. You only show one
view of this, and I suspect that there is a hole though the wood
just behind the fipple.
3140) Strange. All formed from a single piece of wire.
At a guess the duck-bill to the right fits into a tube, and it
supports a tubing (glass or rubber) in the other two. Perhaps
used in a chem lab.
Maybe it could hold a test tube on the end of a distillation
condenser for sampling before the final product goes to a larger
container.
3141) That is the most decorated Acorn cap nut I have ever seen.
Unlikely to be a commercial product, though it might have
started life as a normal Acorn cap nut.
And the size is rather large for most acorn nuts.
3142) A pipe reamer. Used for removing burrs from the inside of a
just cut length of pipe.
Used in an old style brace from the "Brace and Bit" days,
BTW The "large photos" site seems to have the two views of the
acorn nut and the pipe reamer interleaved for whatever reason. :-)
3143) Two normally hand-held counters. Likely used at the admissions
gate to count two different classes of entrants -- say Men vs
Women or adults vs kids.
3144) I think that this is a tool used by a blacksmith for punching
a hole through sheet metal of whatever thickness. Heat it red
hot first.
I think that the two parts separate, but they might work
assembled into the hardy hole of an anvil.
Now to post this and then see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2014-03-28, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> No definitive reason has been found yet for the two counters but the rest of the
> answers have been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2014/03/set-538.html#answers
I'm curious about the one described as a saw set. It looks
rather large -- unless it is for sawmill sized saw blades -- or perhaps
for the two-man saws used for firewood and trees.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2014-04-01, G. Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> On 3/31/2014 6:52 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>> Here is a good explanation for swaging a circular rip saw.
>>>> http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,5106.msg69109.html#msg69109
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information, I added 'hammer swage' to my answer for it.
>>>
>>
>> I keep looking at the posts, but have
>> not seen answers, in the subject line.
>> Have they been posted?
>>
> Look at Rob's post dated 3/28
Or -- just go to the original site and scroll down about half
way to find the start of the answers.
He typically posts them on Friday evening -- same URL as the
original puzzle.
Enjoy,
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On 2014-04-02, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Stormin Mormon says...
>>
>>On 3/31/2014 6:52 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>> Here is a good explanation for swaging a circular rip saw.
[ ... ]
>>I keep looking at the posts, but have
>>not seen answers, in the subject line.
>>Have they been posted?
>>
>
> Sometimes I forget
You forget to *post* that the answers are up, but not to put the
answers up. I usually look at the site for the answers before I ever
get to reading usenet for the evening.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 4/3/2014 6:25 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 4/3/2014 12:49 AM, DoN. Nichols wrote:
>> On 2014-04-02, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I keep looking at the posts, but have
>>>> not seen answers, in the subject line.
>>>> Have they been posted?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sometimes I forget
>>
>> You forget to *post* that the answers are up, but not to put the
>> answers up. I usually look at the site for the answers before I ever
>> get to reading usenet for the evening.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> DoN.
>>
>
> Funny, I have never seen Rob forget to post that the answers are up.
Last week, for example. I read the subject
lines of each of the posts, and none said
"answers".
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