So yet another birthday is around the corner and the wife is tired of
dust in my shop (and the house). Therefore, she wants me to get a dust
collector. My WW habits are minimal and I don't need an industrial
system. My wife's first instinct is to go to sears. Having read less
then stallar reviews about them, at least their power tools, I am not so
sure this may be a good idea.
She has looked at two systems; a sears (#21336)and delta (#ap400). Both
systems appear to be very similar in that they are 1hp, 650cfm, 2 20
micron bags, etc. The prices are also in a good ballpark. Does anyone
have any comments, suggestions, etc. regarding either of these units?
Thanks in advance for the info.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:42:03 -0400, Geo <[email protected]> wrote:
>So yet another birthday is around the corner and the wife is tired of
>dust in my shop (and the house). Therefore, she wants me to get a dust
>collector. My WW habits are minimal and I don't need an industrial
>system. My wife's first instinct is to go to sears. Having read less
>then stallar reviews about them, at least their power tools, I am not so
>sure this may be a good idea.
>
>She has looked at two systems; a sears (#21336)and delta (#ap400). Both
>systems appear to be very similar in that they are 1hp, 650cfm, 2 20
>micron bags, etc. The prices are also in a good ballpark. Does anyone
>have any comments, suggestions, etc. regarding either of these units?
>Thanks in advance for the info.
The dust that gets through 20 micron bags is unhealthy for you.
I suggest you search groups.google.com to get some background
information on this. There are aftermarket bags that filter much
better and yet give better airflow, which means your dust collector
will perform better.
Regarding the 1 hp rated collectors, I think these are intended to
connect to a single device at a time with a short hose. So plan to
spend time moving it around the disconnecting and reconnecting.
Robert wrote:
> I have the Delta unit and have been using it for a couple of years now. I'm
> very pleased with the performance. Since you said you're WW habits are
> minimal, this would be ideal. It's perfect for collecting dust from any
> single machine. As for having to run it from a short hose, I have used up
> to 40' of 4' flexible DC hose on my tablesaw. Had no problem keeping up.
>
............. That is considerably better then my 2 HP Grizzley would
do... 40 foot of "hose" .. even 40 foot of smooth walled pipe would be
way too much from my experience... I also use a 1 HP Penn State unit
and with a 5 ft flex hose it does keep up with the "chips" from the planner.
> When I operate my 12" planer and 6" jointer, I'm operating off a 20' section
> of hose. My planer and jointer are my two most prolific dust producers.
> This DC easily keeps things under control.
Neither of these machines produce much dust....chips yes...dust no...
>
> This DC has wheels and it is easily moved around the shop. I had considered
> putting in plumbing and blast gates, but this is so easy to move and
> connect, that I gave up on that idea. I bought a quick connect fitting from
> Woodcraft. It threads into the end of the 4" hose and is tapered. It slips
> over the dust ports and holds tightly with a 1/4 turn and removes as easily.
>
You are right...the smaller units do allow you to drag them around the
shop pretty easily... dragging 40 foot of hose however seems to me a bit
much... Maybe that is where I am confused...if you can move the DC why
do you need 40 foot of hose?
> Picture of mine: http://www.2manytoyz.com/woodworking/dc.jpg
>
> It's now available at Lowes for under $200.00. Very easy to get parts for
> Delta, including upgraded bags. I've not noticed a bunch of fine dust when
> operating the DC, so I'm sticking with the stock bags for now. There are
> some monster DCs on the market, but if you are only running 1 machine at a
> time, they tend to be overkill IMHO. FWIW, I have to roll my power tools in
> my small shop anyway before using them, so having to roll the DC over to it
> before using it is not really anything new.
Well you do sound like me... Like I said I have two dust collectors and
the little 1 hp was purchased at a garage sale for "peanuts" so I could
not pass it by...BUT I do not use them to protect my own health...I use
them only to reduse the "mess" in my shop...when I open the door every
morning I now enter a shop that is much cleaner...not nearly as much
fine dust has settled tools etc... I still am using the "stock" bags
after over 10 years with the Griz and the Penn State unit I have been
using for only 3-4 years..also stock bags...
Just my opinions.. \
Bob Griffiths
I have the Delta unit and have been using it for a couple of years now. I'm
very pleased with the performance. Since you said you're WW habits are
minimal, this would be ideal. It's perfect for collecting dust from any
single machine. As for having to run it from a short hose, I have used up
to 40' of 4' flexible DC hose on my tablesaw. Had no problem keeping up.
When I operate my 12" planer and 6" jointer, I'm operating off a 20' section
of hose. My planer and jointer are my two most prolific dust producers.
This DC easily keeps things under control.
This DC has wheels and it is easily moved around the shop. I had considered
putting in plumbing and blast gates, but this is so easy to move and
connect, that I gave up on that idea. I bought a quick connect fitting from
Woodcraft. It threads into the end of the 4" hose and is tapered. It slips
over the dust ports and holds tightly with a 1/4 turn and removes as easily.
Picture of mine: http://www.2manytoyz.com/woodworking/dc.jpg
It's now available at Lowes for under $200.00. Very easy to get parts for
Delta, including upgraded bags. I've not noticed a bunch of fine dust when
operating the DC, so I'm sticking with the stock bags for now. There are
some monster DCs on the market, but if you are only running 1 machine at a
time, they tend to be overkill IMHO. FWIW, I have to roll my power tools in
my small shop anyway before using them, so having to roll the DC over to it
before using it is not really anything new.
"Geo" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> So yet another birthday is around the corner and the wife is tired of
> dust in my shop (and the house). Therefore, she wants me to get a dust
> collector. My WW habits are minimal and I don't need an industrial
> system. My wife's first instinct is to go to sears. Having read less
> then stallar reviews about them, at least their power tools, I am not so
> sure this may be a good idea.
>
> She has looked at two systems; a sears (#21336)and delta (#ap400). Both
> systems appear to be very similar in that they are 1hp, 650cfm, 2 20
> micron bags, etc. The prices are also in a good ballpark. Does anyone
> have any comments, suggestions, etc. regarding either of these units?
> Thanks in advance for the info.
>
>