RH

"Rob H."

17/12/2009 5:52 AM

What is it? Set 315

A new set of items has been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


This topic has 40 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 10:47 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Rob H. <[email protected]>
wrote:

> >>>Hang on a doorknob.
> >>
> >>
> >>The above statement is correct, the rest is not.
> >>
> >
> > Guess: a room 'security alarm' device. hang it over the _front_ of the
> > knob, If anybody tries to turn the knob from the outside it falls off and
> > hits the floor with a clatter.
>
>
> Nope, that's not it.

I'm guessing as a signal of some kind, akin to the "MILK TODAY" sign we
used to put in the window for the milkman.

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 12:49 PM

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:06:52 -0500, Steve W. wrote:

> 1806 - I have seen one of these. Didn't know what it was then either ;-)

Fence tightener. That's the default answer to all of these. :-)

--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 7:24 AM

1801 oil can opener
1802 rope maker, industrial
1803 need more pictures
1804 what the other guy thinks, gas lamp?
1805 not sure
1806 Muzzle loader

Rob H. wrote:
> A new set of items has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

YA

"Y?"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 10:34 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A new set of items has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob


1801 - A Dipstick of some sort, possibly broken/shortened?
1802 - Looks like it might be used to pick up or move something hot. Does
the handle pull up and spread the bent wirey bits apart??
1803 - A Cockfighting spur?
1806 - An old Pill Press?

Y.


BM

"Buddy Matlosz"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 8:32 PM

1806 - cherry pitter?

B.

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 9:39 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> With this hint:
>>> It would be almost impossible to guess this answer so I'll give a hint, I
>>> would place it in the category of home security.
>
>
>
>>Hang on a doorknob.
>
>
>The above statement is correct, the rest is not.
>

Guess: a room 'security alarm' device. hang it over the _front_ of the
knob, If anybody tries to turn the knob from the outside it falls off and
hits the floor with a clatter.

BM

"Bill McKee"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 6:23 PM


"Andrew Erickson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> A new set of items has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> My guesses for this week:
>
> 1801 - Promotional dipstick for...umm..some piece of farm equipment?
> oil laps with opaque founts?
>
> 1802 - Chimney flue cleaning apparatus, intended to work on the pull
> stroke?
>
> 1803 - Neat looking sail mending kit?
>
> 1804 - I'm pretty sure this is a wall-mounted swing arm gas light,
> probably missing a mantle and/or shade.
>
> 1805 - Gambling (or perhaps more likely, prize merchandizing) game
> machine; insert coin at the top, and whatever slot it falls in on the
> (presumably spinning) wheel thingy determines the payout or prize
> somehow.
>
> 1806 - Manual pill making machine (for medicinal or other related uses)
>
> --
> Andrew Erickson
>
> "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
> lose." -- Jim Elliot

1803 is the spur they install on a gamecock for cock fighting. The real
spur goes through the silver part.

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 6:51 AM

> Rob H. wrote:
>> A new set of items has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob

I don't have the material for which it's used figured out, but 1802 is
made to grab and bunch together some loose (and apparently fibrous)
substance (maybe like cotton lint, feathers, wool).

The tines expand outward when the bottom plate is pulled up toward the
top plate, but the way they're formed, they still overlap enough to
capture and pull together whatever's between them when they're contracted
again.

Maybe it's for stuffing feathers in pillow cases.

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 6:58 AM

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> I don't have the material for which it's used figured out, but 1802 is
> made to grab and bunch together some loose (and apparently fibrous)
> substance (maybe like cotton lint, feathers, wool).
>

Technically, the tines expand when the ring is pulled, so I guess it could
be used to spread something open and hold it that way so long as there's a
pull on it.

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

18/12/2009 10:36 AM

"Steve B" <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l6ksv6-
[email protected]:

>
>>
>>> >>>Hang on a doorknob.
>
> Is it to operate a transom?

Say "goodnight", Gracie.

The answer has already been guessed and confirmed.

LLoyd

TR

TwoGuns

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 6:51 AM

On Dec 17, 4:52=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> A new set of items has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

I think I saw something similar to #1803 many years ago when a wayward
uncle took me to a cock fight back in the 1950's. They put these
around the legs of the fighting roosters. They are very nasty and the
guys handling the roosters had to be very careful when they tried to
grab the winner. Sometimes there wasn't a winner because both roosters
died. Have the times changed?

DL

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 7:48 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> A new set of items has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

My guesses for this week:

1801 - Promotional dipstick for...umm..some piece of farm equipment?
oil laps with opaque founts?

1802 - Chimney flue cleaning apparatus, intended to work on the pull
stroke?

1803 - Neat looking sail mending kit?

1804 - I'm pretty sure this is a wall-mounted swing arm gas light,
probably missing a mantle and/or shade.

1805 - Gambling (or perhaps more likely, prize merchandizing) game
machine; insert coin at the top, and whatever slot it falls in on the
(presumably spinning) wheel thingy determines the payout or prize
somehow.

1806 - Manual pill making machine (for medicinal or other related uses)

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 6:14 AM

1804 A gaslight lighting fixture. Right end screws on to gas pipe in wall,
left end, pointing up, goes in nice glass diffuser/shade.

1805 Guess: Slot machine. Used in a saloon. Spin and drop in coin, get 1,
2 or 3 drinks or cigars.

1806 Guess: Reloader for a removable cylinder from a cap and ball revolver.

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A new set of items has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

PK

"Phil Kangas"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 9:52 AM


"Rob H." <> wrote in message >A new set of items has been
posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1802 is easy. It's a chimney cleaner. Used to remove
built up creosote. No doubt in my mind. I've used one
of these _many_ times. They don't do a good job on
removing the hard glass like creosote so I came up
with my own design.
phil kangas


RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 11:58 AM


"Y?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>A new set of items has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> 1801 - A Dipstick of some sort, possibly broken/shortened?


This was an advertising give-away, the text on it is not related to its use
but it would have been used indoors.


Rob


RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 12:00 PM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 1802 is easy. It's a chimney cleaner. Used to remove
> built up creosote. No doubt in my mind. I've used one
> of these _many_ times. They don't do a good job on
> removing the hard glass like creosote so I came up
> with my own design.
> phil kangas



This answer is correct.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 12:03 PM


> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

>I think I saw something similar to #1803 many years ago when a wayward
>uncle took me to a cock fight back in the 1950's. They put these
>around the legs of the fighting roosters. They are very nasty and the
>guys handling the roosters had to be very careful when they tried to
>grab the winner. Sometimes there wasn't a winner because both roosters
>died. Have the times changed?

>DL


Apparently the times haven't changes, it is indeed a cock fighting spur.


Rob

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 12:06 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> A new set of items has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1801 - Looks like a dipstick for a transfer pump.

1802 - Chimney cleaner.

1803 - nasty looking back scratcher?

1804 - Looks like a modified gas burner, maybe for glass work?. The tip
isn't original judging by the knurling on it compared to the rest of the
fixture.

1805 - Version of a Plinko machine?

1806 - I have seen one of these. Didn't know what it was then either ;-)


--
Steve W.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 8:35 PM


>> A new set of items has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> My guesses for this week:
>
> 1801 - Promotional dipstick for...umm..some piece of farm equipment?
> oil laps with opaque founts?


It would be almost impossible to guess this answer so I'll give a hint, I
would place it in the category of home security.


Rob

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 6:24 PM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>> A new set of items has been posted:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> My guesses for this week:
>>
>> 1801 - Promotional dipstick for...umm..some piece of farm equipment?
>> oil laps with opaque founts?
>
>
> It would be almost impossible to guess this answer so I'll give a hint, I
> would place it in the category of home security.
>
>
> Rob

Opening locked interior doors.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 9:27 PM


>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>> It would be almost impossible to guess this answer so I'll give a hint, I
>> would place it in the category of home security.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Opening locked interior doors.


Nope, that's not it.


Rob

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 10:12 PM

With this hint:
> It would be almost impossible to guess this answer so I'll give a hint, I
> would place it in the category of home security.
I'll guess: Keyhole blocker. Hang on a doorknob. It hangs in front of an
old fashioned keyhole to prevent someone from peeking through.


RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 10:34 PM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With this hint:
>> It would be almost impossible to guess this answer so I'll give a hint, I
>> would place it in the category of home security.



>Hang on a doorknob.


The above statement is correct, the rest is not.


>It hangs in front of an old fashioned keyhole to prevent someone from
>peeking through.


RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 10:47 PM

>>>Hang on a doorknob.
>>
>>
>>The above statement is correct, the rest is not.
>>
>
> Guess: a room 'security alarm' device. hang it over the _front_ of the
> knob, If anybody tries to turn the knob from the outside it falls off and
> hits the floor with a clatter.


Nope, that's not it.

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 7:52 PM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>>>Hang on a doorknob.
>>>
>>>
>>>The above statement is correct, the rest is not.
>>>
>>
>> Guess: a room 'security alarm' device. hang it over the _front_ of the
>> knob, If anybody tries to turn the knob from the outside it falls off
>> and
>> hits the floor with a clatter.
>
>
> Nope, that's not it.
>
>

If someone tries to Unlock the door using the key, this thingie prevents
those old fashioned keys from completely entering the lock.

LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 7:54 PM

"LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>Hang on a doorknob.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The above statement is correct, the rest is not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Guess: a room 'security alarm' device. hang it over the _front_ of the
>>> knob, If anybody tries to turn the knob from the outside it falls off
>>> and
>>> hits the floor with a clatter.
>>
>>
>> Nope, that's not it.
>>
>>
>
> If someone tries to Unlock the door using the key, this thingie prevents
> those old fashioned keys from completely entering the lock.

Other wise sleep on floor with eye facing up. Perp turns door knob, thingie
falls point first in your eye, thus waking you ...

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 11:04 PM



> If someone tries to Unlock the door using the key, this thingie prevents
> those old fashioned keys from completely entering the lock.


This hook does not go into the keyhole, if that's what you mean.


Rob

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 11:07 PM

1801 oil can opener
CY: I think you're right. I was thiking dipstick.

1802 rope maker, industrial
CY: You totally got me. I'll agree with anything on this
one.

1803 need more pictures
CY: My first thought was pump oiler. Lookign back, the cock
fighting spur makes sense.

1804 what the other guy thinks, gas lamp?
CY: I could see gas valve, lower right. Now that I look some
more, I see the swivel, and the tube to keep the lamp away
from the wall. The photo is upside down, of course.

1805 not sure
CY: The only thing I can guess is some kind of gambling
machine. Drop a coin in, and make it spin.


1806 Muzzle loader
CY: My first thought was stuffing corks into wine bottles,
or bottle capping. With the second look, I'm thinking more
like apothacary pill packer.

Rob H. wrote:
> A new set of items has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 11:09 PM

Priceless. Real actual experience. I would never have
guessed.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"Phil Kangas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

"Rob H." <> wrote in message >A new set of items has been
posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1802 is easy. It's a chimney cleaner. Used to remove
built up creosote. No doubt in my mind. I've used one
of these _many_ times. They don't do a good job on
removing the hard glass like creosote so I came up
with my own design.
phil kangas



LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 8:29 PM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
>> If someone tries to Unlock the door using the key, this thingie prevents
>> those old fashioned keys from completely entering the lock.
>
>
> This hook does not go into the keyhole, if that's what you mean.
>
>
> Rob

No, but the rest of it could block the keyhole ...

Cw

"Cliff"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 8:58 PM

1801 is a "I need oil" marker to hang on an outside doorknob.

Cliff

EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

18/12/2009 12:40 AM

Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> With this hint:
>>> It would be almost impossible to guess this answer so I'll give a
>>> hint, I would place it in the category of home security.
>
>
>
>> Hang on a doorknob.
>
>
> The above statement is correct, the rest is not.
>
>
I used to leave the key in the lock so somebody outside couldn't insert
a skeleton key. However, some thieves knew how to turn the key from the
outside. The countermeasure was a retainer, hung from the doorknob and
sticking through the loop of the key to keep it from turning.


Fleming 1954 2,684,587

McKay 1951 2,568,081
Hagan 1950 2,517,480

Wiley 1944 2,835,244
Amos 1943 2,316,544

Bunker 1928 1,667,508


Ryan 1909 942,753
Gibbons 1881 251,041
Knight 1875 167,674

and many more

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

18/12/2009 6:45 AM

> I used to leave the key in the lock so somebody outside couldn't insert
> a skeleton key. However, some thieves knew how to turn the key from the
> outside. The countermeasure was a retainer, hung from the doorknob and
> sticking through the loop of the key to keep it from turning.


Correct! That's exactly how it was used to keep out intruders.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

18/12/2009 4:52 PM

Five of the six were correctly identified, the answer page can be seen here:

http://answers315a.blogspot.com/

Thanks to all who participated this week.


Rob

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

18/12/2009 5:29 PM

Neat stuff. Having been a locksmith for 20+ years, I'd never
seen one of the skeleton key blockers. Really interesting.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Five of the six were correctly identified, the answer page
can be seen here:

http://answers315a.blogspot.com/

Thanks to all who participated this week.


Rob

SB

"Steve B"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

18/12/2009 8:37 AM



>
>> >>>Hang on a doorknob.

Is it to operate a transom?

RS

Roy Smith

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

17/12/2009 9:02 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> A new set of items has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Question about 1801: is that the entire object? It's hard to tell from the
photo, but the bottom of it looks jagged, as if it were broken off from a
larger piece of something. If so, then my guess would be a dipstick for
measuring fluid level in some kind of tank or sump.

1802 looks like a large version of a kitchen whisk. Maybe part of an
industrial butter churn? Or a cake batter mixer?

1803 looks like some variation on a fid or sailmaker's palm.

1804 is almost certainly a gas lamp or burner. The heart-shaped thing on
the lower right is the valve handle, it pivot n the piece immediately to
the left o that, and you see the air shutter on the burner assembly. The
lower-left of the image is "up".

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

18/12/2009 5:27 AM

Hmm ... for whatever reason I did not get the original posting, so I'll
have to reply to this -- the first that I have seen, and comment on my
opinions to this set of suggestions, since I can't start without seeing
at least these.

1801) Looks like a tool for rotating a cylindrical part of something,
probably a typewriter or a TeleType.

1802) This one looks like it is intended to be cast into concrete to
provide an anchor point which will survive a fairly strong pull.

"rebar" bent in several places, so it won't pull out of the
concrete.

1803) Looks like something worn on a thumb or finger to hook strands
of thread, string, or wire in some kind of assembly operation.

Perhaps for cable lacing?

On 2009-12-17, Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1804 A gaslight lighting fixture. Right end screws on to gas pipe in wall,
> left end, pointing up, goes in nice glass diffuser/shade.

I agree with the above for (1804).

> 1805 Guess: Slot machine. Used in a saloon. Spin and drop in coin, get 1,
> 2 or 3 drinks or cigars.

Hmm ... my guess for this is that it is an early coin acceptor
for a bus or trolley driver.

> 1806 Guess: Reloader for a removable cylinder from a cap and ball revolver.

And for this -- my thought is that it is either a sizer for cast
bullets of three different calibers, or perhaps for loading shot
into a shotgun shell.

But I prefer the first, with the "Push" button to kick the sized
bullet back up where you can grip it.

The removable cylinder suggestion does not seem right with the
visible difference in size for the first two holes, and a
presumable difference in the third one as well.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

18/12/2009 5:38 AM

On 2009-12-18, LDosser <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>> A new set of items has been posted:
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> My guesses for this week:
>>>
>>> 1801 - Promotional dipstick for...umm..some piece of farm equipment?
>>> oil laps with opaque founts?
>>
>>
>> It would be almost impossible to guess this answer so I'll give a hint, I
>> would place it in the category of home security.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Opening locked interior doors.
>

Tensioning tool for picking locks?

Enjoy,
DoN.

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(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 17/12/2009 5:52 AM

18/12/2009 2:12 PM

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:36:36 -0600, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:

> "Steve B" <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l6ksv6-
> [email protected]:
>
>>
>>>
>>>> >>>Hang on a doorknob.
>>
>> Is it to operate a transom?
>
> Say "goodnight", Gracie.

Goodnight Gracie.

--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com


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