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"PVR"

26/04/2005 10:49 PM

Basement ceiling.

I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a system
from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route should I
get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does it
matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?

Peter.


This topic has 11 replies

b

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 3:28 AM

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:49:15 -0400, "PVR"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a system
>from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route should I
>get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does it
>matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?
>
>Peter.
>

If you go the drywall route, frame the walls first, then board the
ceilings, then the walls. Remember either to move shutoffs (ie
outside taps, water line to refrigerator, gas, etc.) to an unfinished
area or to cut out access panels. (One trick -- leave the framing of
any partition walls that would be in the way, until after the drywall
has been placed. One pro trick -- order drywall from a place that
will "deliver and place" your order. Easier on the back.

Both systems are used, drywall (at least here) is more usual. My
personal preference is for drywall ... it's generally a better match
to the upstairs and makes the basement feel less like a basement.
I've only done one drop ceiling in the last five years. In my view,
they have a commercial feel -- like a dentist's office, <grin>

Ken.


d

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 3:32 AM


PVR wrote:
> I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a
system
> from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route
should I
> get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does
it
> matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?
>
> Peter.

Speaking from experience. Go with drop ceiling. I did my basement with
drywall 20 years ago (SWMBO does not like drop ceiling tiles). I cannot
count how many times I cut the dry wall and patched it up and wished I
had a drop ceiling whenever I had to rewire and other plumbing mods. I
still threaten to knock all the drywall down and redo with drop
ceiling.

w

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 4:20 AM


PVR wrote:
> I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a
system
> from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route
should I
> get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does
it
> matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?
>
> Peter.

I'm getting ready to redo our basement. The exercise room will have a
drop ceiling because that's where all the wiring, plumbing, etc. runs
are. The main room will be drywall because I like the look better and
there is nothing in the ceiling that will need to be accessed.

Drywall the ceiling first then the walls (AFTER all the framing is
complete) - the wall drywall will hold the ceiling drywall up so you
don't get sags or cracks at the joint.

If you're going to use a drop ceiling, drywall the walls first, then
put the track up over the drywall.

Steve

w

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 8:40 AM

Here's a good option if you can't run wires:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/GE-Cordless-Phone-Bundle-25840GE3-/sem/rpsm/oid/118170/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

Between 802.11 super G, phones like this and free range speakers; wired
houses are becoming a thing of the past. If they would just do
something about that pesky line from the dish to the TV...

BS

Brian Siano

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 12:11 PM

PVR wrote:
> I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a system
> from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route should I
> get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does it
> matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?

Since my basement ceiling's just the joists, and there are lots of pipes
and wirs running there, I just stapled up some Tyvek sheets. Keeps the
dust from falling, and reflects light back down to the work.

Gg

"George"

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

28/04/2005 6:17 AM


"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "PVR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a
> system
> > from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route
should
> I
> > get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does it
> > matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> >
>
> Largely, it's a matter of choice, but if you have junction boxes in the
> floor joists, you can't sheet rock over them. They have to remain
> accessable.

Since no one else has mentioned it, a suspended ceiling also gives better
sound isolation than sheetrock nailed directly. It can sometimes mean the
difference between escape and "family TV."

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 9:12 PM


"PVR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a
system
> from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route should
I
> get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does it
> matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?
>
> Peter.
>
>

Largely, it's a matter of choice, but if you have junction boxes in the
floor joists, you can't sheet rock over them. They have to remain
accessable.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Gg

GQ

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 1:39 PM

On 4/26/05 10:49 PM, PVR wrote:

> I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a system
> from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route should I
> get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does it
> matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?

Just FYI, here's alternative to a traditional drop ceiling, the advantage being
that you don't lose as much height.
http://www.acpideas.com/Pages/ceilingmax.htm

Cn

"Clint"

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 6:18 PM

They have something to handle that pesky line. Up here, it's called
"peasant-vision", and uses the new and high-tech "Rabbit Ears" media
distribution device.

Clint

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here's a good option if you can't run wires:
>
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/GE-Cordless-Phone-Bundle-25840GE3-/sem/rpsm/oid/118170/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
>
> Between 802.11 super G, phones like this and free range speakers; wired
> houses are becoming a thing of the past. If they would just do
> something about that pesky line from the dish to the TV...
>

RA

"Robert A. Gramza"

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 2:51 PM

If you need phone or cable-tv lines in any of the walls , don't forget to
drop them before closing the ceiling



<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> PVR wrote:
> > I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a
> system
> > from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route
> should I
> > get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does
> it
> > matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?
> >
> > Peter.
>
> I'm getting ready to redo our basement. The exercise room will have a
> drop ceiling because that's where all the wiring, plumbing, etc. runs
> are. The main room will be drywall because I like the look better and
> there is nothing in the ceiling that will need to be accessed.
>
> Drywall the ceiling first then the walls (AFTER all the framing is
> complete) - the wall drywall will hold the ceiling drywall up so you
> don't get sags or cracks at the joint.
>
> If you're going to use a drop ceiling, drywall the walls first, then
> put the track up over the drywall.
>
> Steve
>

Cn

"Clint"

in reply to "PVR" on 26/04/2005 10:49 PM

27/04/2005 3:32 PM

Personally, I hate drywalled ceilings when you have no access to the area
above somehow. Even on our 5 year old house, I now have a hole in the
basement ceiling to fix because of a water leak... And forget being able to
run extra cable or network lines... They may look better, but in my
opinion, they're not worth the hassles. I've been burned twice now on two
different houses. But maybe I should just live in the house, and not try to
change it?

Clint

"Robert A. Gramza" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you need phone or cable-tv lines in any of the walls , don't forget to
> drop them before closing the ceiling
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > PVR wrote:
> > > I'm finishing my basement. I could use a slight drop ceiling using a
> > system
> > > from HD or drywall direct to the joists. If I go the drywall route
> > should I
> > > get the ceiling done before studs/drywall to the walls or after? Does
> > it
> > > matter? Are both used but one is more preferred?
> > >
> > > Peter.
> >
> > I'm getting ready to redo our basement. The exercise room will have a
> > drop ceiling because that's where all the wiring, plumbing, etc. runs
> > are. The main room will be drywall because I like the look better and
> > there is nothing in the ceiling that will need to be accessed.
> >
> > Drywall the ceiling first then the walls (AFTER all the framing is
> > complete) - the wall drywall will hold the ceiling drywall up so you
> > don't get sags or cracks at the joint.
> >
> > If you're going to use a drop ceiling, drywall the walls first, then
> > put the track up over the drywall.
> >
> > Steve
> >
>
>


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