RH

"Rob H."

30/08/2012 4:02 AM

What is it? Set 456

I need some help with the fourth item in this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


This topic has 27 replies

WK

Walter Kraft

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 11:22 AM

2650. The two unidentified tools might be homemade "Bulletstartes" for
a muzzleloading rifle. The top part looks like its be made from
Stag´s horn.

regards
Walter



Am 30.08.2012 10:02, schrieb Rob H.:
> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

BL

"Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable)"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 9:38 PM

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:27:03 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> 2647: Appears to be a glass cutter. The square hole would be for
>> mounting on a radius arm to cut circles.
>
>Yes, that's what the square hole is for.

But it seems the carbide glass scoring wheel is missing from the tip -
it almost fooled me.

--<< Bruce >>--

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 8:06 AM

2647, could be any of a number of things. I'd guess a bicycle spoke
tightener. The square hole is for opening valves on acetylene tanks.
2648, posts, for outdoor fence.
2649, as a former volunteer fire fighter, I recognize this one. I won't
spoil it for our non fire fighter friends.
2650, don't know.
2651, stationary bottle opener?
2652, top of a fireplace

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I need some help with the fourth item in this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 8:07 AM

Posting from my desk top in the living room, as always.

Not a chess piece?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...


2651 is a weight for pan scales. My gran had similar ones with the kitchen
scales she used.
--
Dave Baker



SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 8:09 AM

Glass cutter! I can see it now. But, the little wheel is missing from the
end. Of course, still doesn't explain the square hole.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2647 Glass cutter

2648 Stickers for stacking pipe

--
G.W. Ross

Indecision is the key to flexibility.







SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 10:46 PM

Hose, correct. Rest of it, not so.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 8/30/12 8:06 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

> 2649, as a former volunteer fire fighter, I recognize this one. I won't
> spoil it for our non fire fighter friends.

What could be worse than fighting a fire with cold, wet feet? This
strap would allow a fireman to hang his hose on a ladder to dry in front
of the fire!


ww

walkerk

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 7:45 AM

2647: Appears to be a glass cutter. The square hole would be for
mounting on a radius arm to cut circles.

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 9:46 AM

Some kind of side handle? To apply more force, or maybe to run the cutter in
a perfectly straight line?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 8/30/2012 8:09 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Glass cutter! I can see it now. But, the little wheel is missing from the
> end. Of course, still doesn't explain the square hole.

Perhaps to help close a window (to remove a pane)--for the kind of
windows which had a crank???

Bill


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> 2647 Glass cutter
>


DB

"Dave Baker"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 9:46 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some help with the fourth item in this set:

2651 is a weight for pan scales. My gran had similar ones with the kitchen
scales she used.
--
Dave Baker

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 6:12 AM

2652 Appears to be a model (perhaps for a mason) of how to make a
fireplace with an ash-shelf.


On 8/30/2012 4:02 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 6:46 AM

I should have typed "smoke-shelf".

On 8/30/2012 6:12 AM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> 2652 Appears to be a model (perhaps for a mason) of how to make a
> fireplace with an ash-shelf.
>
>
> On 8/30/2012 4:02 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>

DB

"Dave Baker"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 12:33 PM

Dave Baker wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>
> 2651 is a weight for pan scales. My gran had similar ones with the
> kitchen scales she used.

Here are some other examples.

http://www.belowstairs.co.uk/acatalog/Weights_.html

Had no idea they were worth so much.
--
Dave Baker

BB

Bill

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 9:36 AM

On 8/30/2012 8:09 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Glass cutter! I can see it now. But, the little wheel is missing from the
> end. Of course, still doesn't explain the square hole.

Perhaps to help close a window (to remove a pane)--for the kind of
windows which had a crank???

Bill


>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
>
> "G. Ross"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> 2647 Glass cutter
>
> 2648 Stickers for stacking pipe
>

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 3:54 PM

On 8/30/12 8:06 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

> 2649, as a former volunteer fire fighter, I recognize this one. I won't
> spoil it for our non fire fighter friends.

What could be worse than fighting a fire with cold, wet feet? This
strap would allow a fireman to hang his hose on a ladder to dry in front
of the fire!

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 4:16 PM


"Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dave Baker wrote:
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>>
>> 2651 is a weight for pan scales. My gran had similar ones with the
>> kitchen scales she used.
>
> Here are some other examples.
>
> http://www.belowstairs.co.uk/acatalog/Weights_.html
>
> Had no idea they were worth so much.
> --
> Dave Baker

Someone sent this in to find out what it was, they were using it as a door
stop, when I gave them the answer they said that they might as keep using it
for that.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 4:18 PM


"Walter Kraft" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2650. The two unidentified tools might be homemade "Bulletstartes" for
> a muzzleloading rifle. The top part looks like its be made from
> Stag´s horn.
>
> regards
> Walter

Good answer, I should have known this one, I posted one a few years ago but
it was ball shaped and I didn't make the connection to these tools.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 4:19 PM


"anorton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Walter Kraft" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> 2650. The two unidentified tools might be homemade "Bulletstartes" for
>> a muzzleloading rifle. The top part looks like its be made from
>> Stag´s horn.
>>
>> regards
>> Walter
>>
>
> I think you are right. Here are some more similar examples:
> http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=19243.0
>
> They also seem to be called "short starters"
>
>

Thanks for the link, I'll pass it on to the owner of these tools.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 4:20 PM


"G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> 2647 Glass cutter
>
> 2648 Stickers for stacking pipe


These are both correct

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 4:26 PM


"Ted Schuerzinger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:02:49 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
>
>> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 2647. Didn't we have one of these before where the square hole was used
> to turn off a valve of some sort? I seem to recall the one posted
> earlier was used by a bartender.


I thought it was for a gas valve when I first saw it but have since found
its real purpose.

> 2651. Is the bottom flat? Does it have a signet?

Here is a photo of the bottom:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2015/_1adsc002.jpg

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 4:27 PM



> 2647: Appears to be a glass cutter. The square hole would be for
> mounting on a radius arm to cut circles.


Yes, that's what the square hole is for.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

31/08/2012 4:14 AM

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Hose, correct. Rest of it, not so.
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
>
> "J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> On 8/30/12 8:06 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
>> 2649, as a former volunteer fire fighter, I recognize this one. I won't
>> spoil it for our non fire fighter friends.
>
> What could be worse than fighting a fire with cold, wet feet? This
> strap would allow a fireman to hang his hose on a ladder to dry in front
> of the fire!
>
>
>

Had to demonstrate one during a class a month ago, seems folks think
everyone owns an aerial device....

I have used them to hang hose to dry though.....

--
Steve W.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

31/08/2012 5:53 PM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2652 Appears to be a model (perhaps for a mason) of how to make a
> fireplace with an ash-shelf.


You're correct that it's a model of a fireplace, more information on it can
be seen at the answers for this set. They have all been answered correctly
this week, check out the link below for further details and a video of how
the muzzle loader tools are used:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/08/set-456.html#answers


TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 7:26 AM

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:02:49 -0400, Rob H. wrote:

> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2647. Didn't we have one of these before where the square hole was used
to turn off a valve of some sort? I seem to recall the one posted
earlier was used by a bartender.

2651. Is the bottom flat? Does it have a signet?

No clue on the other four.

--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

aa

"anorton"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 10:52 AM


"Walter Kraft" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2650. The two unidentified tools might be homemade "Bulletstartes" for
> a muzzleloading rifle. The top part looks like its be made from
> Stag´s horn.
>
> regards
> Walter
>

I think you are right. Here are some more similar examples:
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=19243.0

They also seem to be called "short starters"

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 8:51 PM

On 2012-08-30, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2647) Tool for cutting glass. Hardened roller in the pointed
corner (likely missing in the one imaged here), ball to tap
along the line made by the roller to produce a better fracture,
and three different size notches for gripping the glass
(matching the thickness of the glass) and applying force to
break the glass when close to the edge.

The square hole is likely to control the valve stem on a torch,
used perhaps to ease the breaking.

2648) These appear to be for steadying round object (likely glass
bottles) so they will not roll apart. The top two are for going
between layers of bottles (of different sizes, given the
different spacing of the notches), while the bottom-most one
goes under the bottom layer of objects, or perhaps over the top
layer if they are enclosed in a crate.

2649) For carrying (and hanging) a bundle of something like sticks, or
for lifting heavy cylinders such as perhaps rolls of metal for
machining in a machine shop.

2650) Tools to perhaps form pills, or to detonate percussion caps.

Not commercial, given the materials.

2651) Looks like a curtain pull, except too large and heavy. Perhaps
for theatrical curtains?

2652) The fipple for a very low pitched pipe (flute without holes to
select alternate notes)-- designed so it can be opened up and
cleaned out. Missing is the edge against which the air (or
steam) stream is directed -- likely a part of the main horn.

At a guess -- it is for something like a foghorn, and the
cleaning is likely needed because of birds building their nests
in the horn.

It looks like it is die cast of aluminum or zinc (or pot metal,
which is mostly zinc).

Now to post and then see what other have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Remove oil spill source from e-mail
Email: <[email protected]> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 9:05 PM

On 2012-08-30, Dave Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Baker wrote:
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>>
>> 2651 is a weight for pan scales. My gran had similar ones with the
>> kitchen scales she used.
>
> Here are some other examples.
>
> http://www.belowstairs.co.uk/acatalog/Weights_.html
>
> Had no idea they were worth so much.

Well -- these are antique and "collector's items", so you have
to expect high prices -- especially from a dealer in the sort. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Remove oil spill source from e-mail
Email: <[email protected]> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/08/2012 4:02 AM

30/08/2012 7:02 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2647 Glass cutter

2648 Stickers for stacking pipe

--
G.W. Ross

Indecision is the key to flexibility.






You’ve reached the end of replies