I had my dad bring me a section of log the other day. Not particular big.
Maybe 7 inches in diameter, and 2 and a half feet long. A neighbor of his
wanted it split in half with flat faces to paint on. Doesn't seem like a
big deal on the face of it, but it turned into a little project. My dad
tried to split it on my bandsaw... that was a mistake. It went bad almost
instantly.
Finally I built an square MDF frame around it, and screwed the frame to the
log. We cut it on the table saw, and then flipped it over and cut it thru
from the other side. There was hardly any ridge n the middle at all, but
there was a nasty bevel on one end of one side from the bandsaw. I set each
half fram ont eh mill, and milled the two pieces flat. Then I removed all
the screws and removed the two log halves from the frames.
Viola!
It got me thinking how much we have gotten dependent on atleast partially
preprocessed wood. I know some of you guys can take a broke off cherry twig
and whittle it into an armoire with a pocket knife, but it still made me
appreciate even rough cut lumber.
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>I had my dad bring me a section of log the other day. Not particular big.
>Maybe 7 inches in diameter, and 2 and a half feet long. A neighbor of his
>wanted it split in half with flat faces to paint on. Doesn't seem like a
Sounds like splitting it (maul, wedge, etc.) and planning would work...
Bob La Londe wrote:
> I had my dad bring me a section of log the other day. Not particular big.
> Maybe 7 inches in diameter, and 2 and a half feet long. A neighbor of his
> wanted it split in half with flat faces to paint on. Doesn't seem like a
> big deal on the face of it, but it turned into a little project. My dad
> tried to split it on my bandsaw... that was a mistake. It went bad almost
> instantly.
>
> Finally I built an square MDF frame around it, and screwed the frame to the
> log. We cut it on the table saw, and then flipped it over and cut it thru
> from the other side. There was hardly any ridge n the middle at all, but
> there was a nasty bevel on one end of one side from the bandsaw. I set each
> half fram ont eh mill, and milled the two pieces flat. Then I removed all
> the screws and removed the two log halves from the frames.
>
> Viola!
snip
I always wanted to make a viola, but as John said, that would take a
lot of planning.
--
GW Ross
In article <[email protected]>, Bob La Londe <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I had my dad bring me a section of log the other day. Not particular big.
> Maybe 7 inches in diameter, and 2 and a half feet long. A neighbor of his
> wanted it split in half with flat faces to paint on. Doesn't seem like a
> big deal on the face of it, but it turned into a little project. My dad
> tried to split it on my bandsaw... that was a mistake. It went bad almost
> instantly.
>
> Finally I built an square MDF frame around it, and screwed the frame to the
> log. We cut it on the table saw, and then flipped it over and cut it thru
> from the other side. There was hardly any ridge n the middle at all, but
> there was a nasty bevel on one end of one side from the bandsaw. I set each
> half fram ont eh mill, and milled the two pieces flat. Then I removed all
> the screws and removed the two log halves from the frames.
>
> Viola!
>
> It got me thinking how much we have gotten dependent on atleast partially
> preprocessed wood. I know some of you guys can take a broke off cherry twig
> and whittle it into an armoire with a pocket knife, but it still made me
> appreciate even rough cut lumber.
When I was a boy, we didn't even have hand tools, had to use our teeth.
I once made an entire bedroom suite using only my left molars...
--
³Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness
sobered, but stupid lasts forever.² -- Aristophanes
Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/25/2014 7:26 AM, Morgans wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>> Ever do any work on fiberglass and you'll understand.
>>
>> Oh, and I would rather take an *ss woopin than sand fiberglass. I have
>> learned to hate the stuff! <g>
>
>
> My effort at making small fiberglass parts
>
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-small-fiberglass-parts/
Dayum! Looking at your pictures I actually had an olfactory flashback and
could literally smell the fiberglass cloth and resin. Dad and I built an
11', flat bottom, plywood/fiberglass boat for hunting ducks in the Gulf
Coast tidal marshes using the same basic materials some 56 years ago.
Nicely done ...
--
www.ewoodshop.com (Mobile)
"Michael" wrote:
> You'll want to use a scrub plane first. If you start with something
> like a jack plane, you'll be at it a good long while.
--------------------------------------------
Time to fire up my Porter Cable "Choo-choo" belt sander equipped
with 3x24, 24 grit belts, some chalk and a straight edge.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>> Time to fire up my Porter Cable "Choo-choo" belt sander equipped
>> with 3x24, 24 grit belts, some chalk and a straight edge.
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Morgans" wrote:
> Chuckle> I know what you mean by the choo choo. I have a Milwaukee
> 4 x 24 that will pull your shoulders out of socket if you use it for
> long enough with a 24 grit belt. Oh, and don't forget a stack of
> belt cleaner erasers!
--------------------------------------------
Belt erasers on 24 grit belt is pretty much a waste of time.
The grit looses it's edge long before the belt clogs.
Buy the belts in lots of 30 if you expect a price.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>>
>>>> Time to fire up my Porter Cable "Choo-choo" belt sander equipped
>>>> with 3x24, 24 grit belts, some chalk and a straight edge.
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
"Morgans" wrote:
>>
>>> Chuckle> I know what you mean by the choo choo. I have a
>>> Milwaukee
>>> 4 x 24 that will pull your shoulders out of socket if you use it
>>> for
>>> long enough with a 24 grit belt. Oh, and don't forget a stack of
>>> belt cleaner erasers!
--------------------------------------------
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>> Belt erasers on 24 grit belt is pretty much a waste of time.
>>
>> The grit looses it's edge long before the belt clogs.
>>
>> Buy the belts in lots of 30 if you expect a price.
-------------------------------------------------------
"woodchucker" wrote:
> Not totally true Lew, you can clean it quite a few times depending
> on the wood. Soft woods like pine can clog it real fast. so why
> replace what you can clean.
>
> After some point it is cleaning, but not cutting ... replace it. But
> I totally disagree that it's a waste of time.
---------------------------------------------------------
Cleaning belts is a waste of my time that can better spent
negotiating a price for belts or using belts that still cut cleanly.
Ever do any work on fiberglass and you'll understand.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>>>> Time to fire up my Porter Cable "Choo-choo" belt sander equipped
>>>> with 3x24, 24 grit belts, some chalk and a straight edge.
-----------------------------------------------
Morgans wrote:
>>> Chuckle> I know what you mean by the choo choo. I have a
>>> Milwaukee 4 x 24 that will pull your shoulders out of socket if
>>> you use it for long enough with a 24 grit belt.
---------------------------------------------------
"Bill" wrote:
>> Thanks for clarifying the "choo-choo" reference. I get it now.
>> Obviously, I don't have a belt sander at this point.
------------------------------------------------------
"John Grossbohlin" wrote:
> I think in this case it refers to a specific model of PC belt sander
> that looks sort of like an old locomotive. Yes Lew?
------------------------------------------------
You got it.
The PC-504 no longer in production but shown below.
http://tinyurl.com/l4btsra
BTW, mine is for sale if anybody is interested.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>> You got it.
>>
>> The PC-504 no longer in production but shown below.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/l4btsra
>>
>> BTW, mine is for sale if anybody is interested.
---------------------------------------------
"Morgans" wrote:
>
> How many amp is that choo choo?
------------------------------------------
9 A per nameplate.
Lew
"Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote in news:ljfd6o$g16$1
@speranza.aioe.org:
>
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in
>
>> 9 A per nameplate.
>>
> I think my Milwaukee is 13. It really does pull like a choo choo. <g>
Install couplers on it and test it out! I wouldn't be surprised to find it
pulls more than a similarly sized G gauge locomotive.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
I have never been all that confident about splitting wood exactly in half with two smooth sides. The closes I have come is cedar and the side were pretty ridged.
Personally I think you accomplished what you set out to do. Sounds like a win to meet.
Real life is different than school. In real life you get to keep taking the test until you get it right.
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:34:43 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
> On Thursday, April 24, 2014 1:44:29 PM UTC-5, Bob La Londe wrote:
>
> > "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >
>
> > news:[email protected]...
>
> >
>
> > > "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >>I had my dad bring me a section of log the other day. Not particular big.
>
> >
>
> > >>Maybe 7 inches in diameter, and 2 and a half feet long. A neighbor of his
>
> >
>
> > >>wanted it split in half with flat faces to paint on. Doesn't seem like a
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Sounds like splitting it (maul, wedge, etc.) and planning would work...
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I don't think I have a wedge around anywhere. I suppose I could have used a
>
> >
>
> > hatchet and a hammer. I thought I planned it out pretty well once I took it
>
> >
>
> > over. Planing on the other hand is an option... I think I have a couple
>
> >
>
> > wood planes around somewhere. Actually the mill made a perfect surface for
>
> >
>
> > the art painting the person wanted. I just wasn't crazy about having ANY
>
> >
>
> > sawdust on my mill. Stood there with a vacuum hose the whole time it was
>
> >
>
> > cutting.
>
>
>
> You'll want to use a scrub plane first. If you start with something like a jack plane, you'll be at it a good long while.
Now that I think about it, I would use the following sequence: axe, draw knife, scrub plane, jack plane, finish plane.
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 1:44:29 PM UTC-5, Bob La Londe wrote:
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> >
>
> >>I had my dad bring me a section of log the other day. Not particular big.
>
> >>Maybe 7 inches in diameter, and 2 and a half feet long. A neighbor of his
>
> >>wanted it split in half with flat faces to paint on. Doesn't seem like a
>
> >
>
> > Sounds like splitting it (maul, wedge, etc.) and planning would work...
>
>
>
> I don't think I have a wedge around anywhere. I suppose I could have used a
>
> hatchet and a hammer. I thought I planned it out pretty well once I took it
>
> over. Planing on the other hand is an option... I think I have a couple
>
> wood planes around somewhere. Actually the mill made a perfect surface for
>
> the art painting the person wanted. I just wasn't crazy about having ANY
>
> sawdust on my mill. Stood there with a vacuum hose the whole time it was
>
> cutting.
You'll want to use a scrub plane first. If you start with something like a jack plane, you'll be at it a good long while.
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 08:19:59 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Bob La Londe wrote:
>> I had my dad bring me a section of log the other day. Not particular big.
>> Maybe 7 inches in diameter, and 2 and a half feet long. A neighbor of his
>> wanted it split in half with flat faces to paint on. Doesn't seem like a
>> big deal on the face of it, but it turned into a little project. My dad
>> tried to split it on my bandsaw... that was a mistake. It went bad almost
>> instantly.
>>
>> Finally I built an square MDF frame around it, and screwed the frame to the
>> log. We cut it on the table saw, and then flipped it over and cut it thru
>> from the other side. There was hardly any ridge n the middle at all, but
>> there was a nasty bevel on one end of one side from the bandsaw. I set each
>> half fram ont eh mill, and milled the two pieces flat. Then I removed all
>> the screws and removed the two log halves from the frames.
>>
>> Viola!
>snip
>
>I always wanted to make a viola, but as John said, that would take a
>lot of planning.
You can just buy them.
http://www.amazon.com/Viola-Making-Plans-Harry-Wake/dp/096070485X
;-)
On 4/25/2014 7:26 AM, Morgans wrote:
>
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> Ever do any work on fiberglass and you'll understand.
>
> Oh, and I would rather take an *ss woopin than sand fiberglass. I have
> learned to hate the stuff! <g>
My effort at making small fiberglass parts
http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-small-fiberglass-parts/
[email protected] wrote in news:399a9535-22c6-43c0-a219-
[email protected]:
> On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:19:59 AM UTC-5, G. Ross wrote:
>> I always wanted to make a viola, but as John said, that would take a
>> lot of planning.
>
> Maybe you should start with a plain viola?
>
I prefer chocolate myself.
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 9:24:31 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> >I had my dad bring me a section of log the other day. Not particular big.
>
> >Maybe 7 inches in diameter, and 2 and a half feet long. A neighbor of his
>
> >wanted it split in half with flat faces to paint on. Doesn't seem like a
>
>
>
> Sounds like splitting it (maul, wedge, etc.) and planning would work...
That's what I was thinking, and then a scrub plane.
On 4/24/2014 11:01 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>
>>> Time to fire up my Porter Cable "Choo-choo" belt sander equipped
>>> with 3x24, 24 grit belts, some chalk and a straight edge.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> "Morgans" wrote:
>
>> Chuckle> I know what you mean by the choo choo. I have a Milwaukee
>> 4 x 24 that will pull your shoulders out of socket if you use it for
>> long enough with a 24 grit belt. Oh, and don't forget a stack of
>> belt cleaner erasers!
> --------------------------------------------
> Belt erasers on 24 grit belt is pretty much a waste of time.
>
> The grit looses it's edge long before the belt clogs.
>
> Buy the belts in lots of 30 if you expect a price.
>
>
> Lew
>
>
Not totally true Lew, you can clean it quite a few times depending on
the wood. Soft woods like pine can clog it real fast. so why replace
what you can clean.
After some point it is cleaning, but not cutting ... replace it. But I
totally disagree that it's a waste of time.
--
Jeff
Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
> When I was a boy, we didn't even have hand tools, had to use our
> teeth. I once made an entire bedroom suite using only my left
> molars...
Well that's all nice if you could afford nice new wood, but we were so poor
that we had to use reclaimed wood and there was no way I was putting those
boards from the old shit house anywhere near my left molars...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>I had my dad bring me a section of log the other day. Not particular big.
>>Maybe 7 inches in diameter, and 2 and a half feet long. A neighbor of his
>>wanted it split in half with flat faces to paint on. Doesn't seem like a
>
> Sounds like splitting it (maul, wedge, etc.) and planning would work...
I don't think I have a wedge around anywhere. I suppose I could have used a
hatchet and a hammer. I thought I planned it out pretty well once I took it
over. Planing on the other hand is an option... I think I have a couple
wood planes around somewhere. Actually the mill made a perfect surface for
the art painting the person wanted. I just wasn't crazy about having ANY
sawdust on my mill. Stood there with a vacuum hose the whole time it was
cutting.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote
> Time to fire up my Porter Cable "Choo-choo" belt sander equipped
> with 3x24, 24 grit belts, some chalk and a straight edge.
Chuckle> I know what you mean by the choo choo. I have a Milwaukee 4 x 24
that will pull your shoulders out of socket if you use it for long enough
with a 24 grit belt. Oh, and don't forget a stack of belt cleaner erasers!
<g>
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Morgans wrote:
>
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>
>> Time to fire up my Porter Cable "Choo-choo" belt sander equipped
>> with 3x24, 24 grit belts, some chalk and a straight edge.
>
> Chuckle> I know what you mean by the choo choo. I have a Milwaukee 4
> x 24 that will pull your shoulders out of socket if you use it for
> long enough with a 24 grit belt.
Thanks for clarifying the "choo-choo" reference. I get it now.
Obviously, I don't have a belt sander at this point.
Bill
> Oh, and don't forget a stack of belt cleaner erasers! <g>
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote
> Cleaning belts is a waste of my time that can better spent
> negotiating a price for belts or using belts that still cut cleanly.
>
> Ever do any work on fiberglass and you'll understand.
Fiberglass, agree. Kiln dry hardwood, agree. Belts get dull quickly, and
cleaning perhaps more than once is worthless.
Sanding wet softwood clogs a belt with long fibers quickly, IMHO. A couple
quick cleanings is worth the time, I think.
Sanding finish, cleaning often keeps clogging from slowing you down, too.
Long before it loses its sharpness.
Getting lots of belts is a good way to go, though. Nothing like wasting
time with a dull belt.
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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote
> Ever do any work on fiberglass and you'll understand.
Oh, and I would rather take an *ss woopin than sand fiberglass. I have
learned to hate the stuff! <g>
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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote
> You got it.
>
> The PC-504 no longer in production but shown below.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/l4btsra
>
> BTW, mine is for sale if anybody is interested.
How many amp is that choo choo?
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> 9 A per nameplate.
>
I think my Milwaukee is 13. It really does pull like a choo choo. <g>
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"Bill" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Morgans wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Time to fire up my Porter Cable "Choo-choo" belt sander equipped
>>> with 3x24, 24 grit belts, some chalk and a straight edge.
>
>> Chuckle> I know what you mean by the choo choo. I have a Milwaukee 4 x
>> 24 that will pull your shoulders out of socket if you use it for long
>> enough with a 24 grit belt.
> Thanks for clarifying the "choo-choo" reference. I get it now. Obviously,
> I don't have a belt sander at this point.
I think in this case it refers to a specific model of PC belt sander that
looks sort of like an old locomotive. Yes Lew?