Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to sanding.
My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my glasses and then I can't see. I
can't afford one of those helmet systems and probably wouldn't use it if I
had one. I don't think I could get used to it.
So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
Wayne
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:09:58 -0500, Hank Gillette
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You can also get prescription safety glasses.
Not if you're shortsighted. They're not only expensive, you soon get
to a point where usable lenses have to be _less_ than a certain size
(you just can't get simple optics to work well enough off-axis to give
a recognisable image), but safety glasses also have to be _at_least_
some size to give you coverage.
My own prescription is such that I have trouble getting sunglasses
with reasonable coverage, let alone safety glasses. As it happens, my
lenses _are_ impact resistant (they're not that expensive), but I'm
under no illusions about how little coverage they offer.
I _sometimes_ wear safety glasses over my normal glasses. But for most
tasks where I'm really expecting to get pelted (grinding etc.) I wear
a face shield. A half-face mask (3M 4000 series ?) goes under this
quite happily and I have ear defenders with a "back of the neck" band
that work with it too.
For working with ammonia or formaldehyde, I use a full-face mask
(mil-surplus Avon S10) without the shield.
--
Smert' spamionam
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:30:50 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
>glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to sanding.
>My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
>so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
>wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
>If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my glasses and then I can't see. I
>can't afford one of those helmet systems and probably wouldn't use it if I
>had one. I don't think I could get used to it.
>
>So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>
>Wayne
Use a DustFoe brand dust mask. Works just fine with glasses.
--RC
>
Projects expand to fill the clamps available -- plus 20 percent
I use those "nuisance dust masks" which are admittedly not as protective as
the more elaborate types but they do well enough, perhaps because I have no
particular allergies. They are also a whole lot cheaper. The brand I have
at the moment is Tufpro, which cost $8.95 for a box of 50 and I often use
them more than once. There is a little bendable wire in the upper portion
which folds down over the nose and my glasses fit over it just fine. I
probably bought them at a hardware store but there are lots of brands.
Bob Moody
"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bob wrote:
> >> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >>> Full face shield. It flips up when not it use and is replaceable if
> >>> it gets too scratched up.
> >>
> >> I don't think you read the question. He's wearing glasses for vision
> >> correction, not safety. How does a face shield help vision?
> >>
> >> Bob
>
> You can wear your own glasses and a mask under a face shield. Works like
a
> charm.
Doesn't solve the original problem stated - face mask does not fit properly
when he wears glasses.
Bob
NoOne N Particular wrote:
> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
I'm with the suggestion that you try different dust masks. I've got some of
the cheapo white jobs, and a cartridge respirator with a whole buncha back
of the head straps and stuff. I don't actually wear my seeing glasses out
in the shop because I don't need to, but I wear safety glasses for just
about everything. I have problems with these masks not sealing very well
because I refuse to shave off my beard, but I don't think safety glasses
have anything to do with it, and my safety glasses are bigger and bulkier
than my seeing glasses.
It could be a shape-of-the-face thing too, in which case your choices are
one of those head gear positive air pressure deals, or a snorkel thing. I
saw a snorkel thing once. I didn't buy it at the time, and I don't
remember what it was, or where I found it. It had a mouthpiece like a
snorkel, and went around to a cartridge on your hat or something. I think
you had to wear a nose clip to seal your nose. That would be just the
trick with my beard, since I ain't shavin'. If it would work. I obviously
haven't tried one.
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>
I've got a Dustbeegone mask I bought at a woodworking show many years
ago. Doesn't interfere with my glasses, doesn't fog my glasses, and
still works after many uses and washings. Take a look at:
http://www.dustbeegone.com/about/features.html
--
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NoOne N Particular wrote:
> 10 minutes or so, it would probably take three times that long to get the
> shop vac moved over (it's almost always connected to my table saw), find
One solution to this is to get the el-cheapo shop vac dust collection setup
from Lee Valley. It doesn't work terribly well, but it's cheap, and better
than nothing. I have hoses running to the TS, DP and lathe, with a fourth
hose as sort of a free floating all around suck things up hose. That lets
me leave the shop vac parked behind the TS, right next to the trash can
cyclone.
The whole rig doesn't come anywhere remotely close to capturing all my dust,
but it helps. Of course one reason the whole setup is tolerable is because
I have such a tiny shop that the switch on the vac is never more than three
steps away from any corner.
Some day I'll get a real 660 V DC with quadruple squirrel cages and 12"
ducts and dual 500 gal. cyclones. From what I hear from some of the
hardcore DC guys on here, that's barely enough to get me started on a
proper system for a 10x12 shop. :)
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Juergen Hannappel wrote:
>> Some day I'll get a real 660 V DC with quadruple squirrel cages and 12"
>> ducts and dual 500 gal. cyclones. From what I hear from some of the
>
> But beware that the system does not dump *you* into it's cyclones...
When that day comes, I'll just wear my anti-vacuum X-ray goggles that keep
you from getting sucked into gigantic DCs and also reveal what ye olde lady
types are wearing under their underwear. :)
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:30:50 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
I have prescription safety glasses with side shields. When hand
sanding or working with MDF, I use a 3M rubber respirator, like this:
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000AXEIK/qid=1102793840/sr=1-16/ref=sr_1_16/104-0663799-8626336?v=glance&s=hi>
You may have to experiment to find a combination of glasses frame and
mask that fits. I took the dust mask to the optometrist when I got
fitted for the safety glasses. It's not a perfect fit, but it works.
When power sanding, I dispose of the mask in favor of a HEPA equipped
Shop Vac attached to the sander. Very little dust escapes the
suction, and I find the mask unnecessary.
Outside the shop, I wear contacts, but they are very uncomfortable in
a dusty environment.
Barry
When making a little bit of dust, I use a typical surgical face mask
which fits OK with my glasses. When painting, I have a rubbery mask
with a couple of filters on the sides that will also work with the
glasses. I'm not sure why you're having the problem. I get the mask
well sealed and then put the glasses on. The nose piece of the glasses
sits on the upper margin of the dust mask.
bob g.
ps The masks are either 3-M 8210s or US Safety 100 M
NoOne N Particular wrote:
> Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
> glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to sanding.
> My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
> so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
> wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
> If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my glasses and then I can't see. I
> can't afford one of those helmet systems and probably wouldn't use it if I
> had one. I don't think I could get used to it.
>
> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>
> Wayne
>
>
However, the same Italian dressing breath that you love inside the mask, and
the same moisture which (briefly) fogs your glasses over a mask, is still a
problem.
"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You can wear your own glasses and a mask under a face shield. Works like
a
> charm.
>
> Josie
>
>
Sat, Dec 11, 2004, 6:30pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(NoOne=A0N=A0Particular) claims:
<snip> I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time <snip> So
the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
I have no idea what kind of dust mask you have, but mine has two
replaceable filters, and I have no problems at all. I put the dust mask
on, then the glasses. No prob. Maybe you need to get another brand.
JOAT
We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.
- unknown
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 00:33:32 GMT, Lazarus Long
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My glasses have pretty small lenses. They don't interfere with my
>dust mask. My dust mask is a dustfoe.
>
>That said, I like the idea of hookin' the shop vac to the sanders.
>I'll be looking into that. Not 'cause I don't want to wear a mask,
>but more to keep the shop/house cleaner.
>
you might also build a simple sanding table.. made a world of
difference in my garage.. err.. I mean shop..
Bob wrote:
>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Full face shield. It flips up when not it use and is replaceable if
>>> it gets too scratched up.
>>
>> I don't think you read the question. He's wearing glasses for vision
>> correction, not safety. How does a face shield help vision?
>>
>> Bob
Bob wrote:
>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Full face shield. It flips up when not it use and is replaceable if
>>> it gets too scratched up.
>>
>> I don't think you read the question. He's wearing glasses for vision
>> correction, not safety. How does a face shield help vision?
>>
>> Bob
You can wear your own glasses and a mask under a face shield. Works like a
charm.
Josie
Sat, Dec 11, 2004, 2:32pm [email protected] (firstjois) says:
You can wear your own glasses and a mask under a face shield. Works like
a charm.
Yep. I just came back to say I wear a face mask and muss too, and
saw Josie's post.
Here's the order they go on me:
Dust mask (replaceable filters type).
Glasses.
Face shield.
Ear muffs.
No prob.
JOAT
We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.
- unknown
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:05:26 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Thanks again to all who responded. It looks like I am just going to keep
>trying different face masks until I can find one that doesn't get under my
>glasses and lift them up. I have tried about 5 different kinds ranging from
>the little cheapies to one that has the two canisters on the sides that I
>bought years ago for another purpose.
>
>I have attached my shop vac to my ROS and it helps a lot. But there are
>problems using the shop vac too. First, it is so loud that I think I may
>have some permanent hearing damage from it. :-) It is quite a bit louder
>than the sander. Second, for the small sanding jobs that might only take 10
>minutes or so, it would probably take three times that long to get the shop
>vac moved over (it's almost always connected to my table saw), find the
>adapters to attach to the ROS, get it all connected, do the sanding, take it
>all apart, and put everything back. I should do that anyway, though, because
>the for last "little" sanding project I neglected to move the car out of
>the garage (my shop) while I sanded on my bench. There was so much dust
>that my green Chrysler New Yorker now looks more like a very large piece of
>poplar. :-) The car really needs a bath now so I hope it rains today.
>
>Wayne
>
>
you might consider building a sanding box, they help quite a bit...
Leave the adapter or an extra vac hose on the box and the box
somewhere handy.. you tend to use something more if it isn't a hassle
to use it..
http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65j/sanding_tbl_top.jpg
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:30:50 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
>glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to sanding.
>My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
>so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
>wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
>If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my glasses and then I can't see. I
>can't afford one of those helmet systems and probably wouldn't use it if I
>had one. I don't think I could get used to it.
>
>So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>
>Wayne
>
I wear glasses and a dust mask. I use the DustFoe 66 which is very
comfortable and does not interfere with my glasses. The DustFoe 66 is
no longer available but there is a replacement. It was about $30 and
well worth it.
My glasses have pretty small lenses. They don't interfere with my
dust mask. My dust mask is a dustfoe.
That said, I like the idea of hookin' the shop vac to the sanders.
I'll be looking into that. Not 'cause I don't want to wear a mask,
but more to keep the shop/house cleaner.
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:30:50 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
>glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to sanding.
>My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
>so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
>wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
>If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my glasses and then I can't see. I
>can't afford one of those helmet systems and probably wouldn't use it if I
>had one. I don't think I could get used to it.
>
>So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>
>Wayne
>
"NoOne N Particular" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:u1Hud.57597
> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
Full face shield. It flips up when not it use and is replaceable if it gets
too scratched up.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=1&page=31226&category=1,42207
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I can also wear dust masks of various types with the glasses and goggles
> -- they don't interfere with the glasses -- BUT -- if I breathe, my
> glasses mist over and I can't see.
>
That was the thing DustBeeGone bragged about when they first came out.
They didn't fogup your glasses. So far (several years) that's been true
for mine.
BTW, I have no affiliation with, or interest in, DustBeeGone. I just
know they have a relatively inexpensive product that works with glasses.
--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description
> That was the thing DustBeeGone bragged about when they first came out.
> They didn't fogup your glasses. So far (several years) that's been true
> for mine.
Discovered the existence of DustBeeGone while surfing the net yesterday
(before receiving this post) and found that the only place they are
available here in the UK is at Turners Retreat, Harworth, Notts at a cost
of £UK25. Never heard of Turners Retreat before and they happen to be
within 20 miles of where I live. I passed their place on my way home from
a breakfast meeting this morning without going out of my way, so called in
and bought one. I've been wearing it ever since just to test it and can
breathe normally without fogging up my glasses. FANTASTIC. I highly
recommend fellow glasses-wearers to invest in one.
Malcolm Webb
Malcolm Webb wrote:
> The idea of a full face shield sounds a good one, but how does that
> prevent breathing in dust and fumes?
Fumes, not at all. Dust, not the really fine stuff that's what you're
supposed to really be watching out for. It does keep *some* dust out of
your nose just by deflecting the rooster tail of chips that are flying off
your TS or lathe straight at your face.
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>I can also wear dust masks of various types with the glasses and goggles
>-- they don't interfere with the glasses -- BUT -- if I breathe, my
>glasses mist over and I can't see. And I can't hold my breath long enough
>to do anything meaningful!!
then you need a dust mask the vents the air a different way. like the 3m half
face mask.
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I wear glasses and wear protective goggles over the top without any
difficulty.
I can also wear dust masks of various types with the glasses and goggles
-- they don't interfere with the glasses -- BUT -- if I breathe, my
glasses mist over and I can't see. And I can't hold my breath long enough
to do anything meaningful!!
The idea of a full face shield sounds a good one, but how does that
prevent breathing in dust and fumes?
Malcolm Webb
>
> If however Wayne's situation is such that that's not viable, then his best
> solution would be a full-face filter mask such as the Trend Air-Shield
> that
> Woodcraft sells
> <http://www.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4923&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1049%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CShop%20Safety%20%26%20Accessories&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1114%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CSafety%20%2D%20Lungs&Gift=False&mscssid=00020C0A3D85628401E8F4992249E19E>
> or the equivalent from any of a number of other companies. This is not a
> cheap solution though, costing around $300.
>
> Going to the Woodcraft site and selecting "shop safety and accessories"
> then
> "lung safety" off the menu gives some other possibilities, including one
> that looks viable and is around 50 bucks.
>
I have seen items like the links you provided. The airshield looks like the
ideal solution, but it and the Aircap2 are both a little out of my price
range for the time being. Now the Resp-o-Rator. . .hmmmm. Looks like that
is something that could be easily made. Just need to work on the one-way
valve. Oh wait! They also have the dust mask with a exhalation valve!!
There we go. I'm on a roll.
Thanks,
Wayne
I wear trifocals and the dusk mask does shift the glasses slightly. It
was enough to be annoying but since I wear prescription safety glasses
in the shop the last time I got a new prescription I had the center
section (arms length view) enlarged slightly now when the glasses get
shifted that range which is were I am usually using anyway is still ok.
Rick
J. Clarke wrote:
>Upscale wrote:
>
>
>
>>"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>See:
>>>
>>>http://www.inthewoodshop.org/methods/renewfs/1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>Ok, you're showing me a face shield. What about it?
>>
>>
>
>Would you people read the bloody OP? He wanted to know how to wear glasses
>with a DUST MASK. A face shield does not provide respiratory protection
>nor does it in some magical way make his glasses fit over the dust mask.
>
>Personally, I don't have a problem with my glasses and a dust mask--they
>don't sit quite the same as when they're riding on my nose but not far
>enough off to be a problem. But then my vision's not all that bad without
>them.
>
>If however Wayne's situation is such that that's not viable, then his best
>solution would be a full-face filter mask such as the Trend Air-Shield that
>Woodcraft sells
><http://www.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4923&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1049%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CShop%20Safety%20%26%20Accessories&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1114%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CSafety%20%2D%20Lungs&Gift=False&mscssid=00020C0A3D85628401E8F4992249E19E>
>or the equivalent from any of a number of other companies. This is not a
>cheap solution though, costing around $300.
>
>Going to the Woodcraft site and selecting "shop safety and accessories" then
>"lung safety" off the menu gives some other possibilities, including one
>that looks viable and is around 50 bucks.
>
>
>
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1rfvd.9870>
>> Doesn't solve the original problem stated - face mask does not fit
> properly
>> when he wears glasses.
>
> They must be gargantuan glasses then. I just tried my face shield while
> wearing regular eye protectors that are also capable of covering my
> glasses.
> The face shield doesn't come close to touching anything.
>
>
Actually my prescription isn't really very strong and the glasses are fairly
small and very light weight. The lightest ones I could get. The lightest
ones I could get without getting "grandpa" glasses (half lens reading
glasses). But I do need them to see things that are close to me, like say
up to a yard away. Get out past the length of my arm (maybe two arm lengths
now) and I can see just hunkey dory. The problem with a face shield (which
I could easily wear) is that it doesn't seem like it would prevent the fine
airborn sawdust from coming in behind it so I would still need a dust mask
to cover my nose and mouth. After all, my glasses get the sawdust on both
sides of the lenses so I would think a face shield, while it would help
some, is not the answer I am looking for. It is the dust mask that I am
having a problem with. It dislocates my glasses just enough to be a pita
and to introduce a lot of distortion and glare.
So after writing this I see some possible solutions. 1. Get glasses that
weigh a ton. 2. Glue them onto my face so they can't move. 3. Get some
arm extenders so I can run the sander from two arm lengths. 4. Don't sand.
Wayne
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Full face shield. It flips up when not it use and is replaceable if it
gets
> too scratched up.
I don't think you read the question. He's wearing glasses for vision
correction, not safety. How does a face shield help vision?
Bob
Thanks again to all who responded. It looks like I am just going to keep
trying different face masks until I can find one that doesn't get under my
glasses and lift them up. I have tried about 5 different kinds ranging from
the little cheapies to one that has the two canisters on the sides that I
bought years ago for another purpose.
I have attached my shop vac to my ROS and it helps a lot. But there are
problems using the shop vac too. First, it is so loud that I think I may
have some permanent hearing damage from it. :-) It is quite a bit louder
than the sander. Second, for the small sanding jobs that might only take 10
minutes or so, it would probably take three times that long to get the shop
vac moved over (it's almost always connected to my table saw), find the
adapters to attach to the ROS, get it all connected, do the sanding, take it
all apart, and put everything back. I should do that anyway, though, because
the for last "little" sanding project I neglected to move the car out of
the garage (my shop) while I sanded on my bench. There was so much dust
that my green Chrysler New Yorker now looks more like a very large piece of
poplar. :-) The car really needs a bath now so I hope it rains today.
Wayne
"NoOne N Particular" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
> glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to
> sanding. My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses
> at the same time so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing,
> or breathing. If I wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I
> still get dust in my nose. If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my
> glasses and then I can't see. I can't afford one of those helmet
> systems and probably wouldn't use it if I had one. I don't think I
> could get used to it.
>
> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
I get most of the way there with scrapers. Then I use a Porter Cable
random orbital sander (the model 334), with the cheesy dust canister
removed and instead hooked up via hose and adapter to my shop dust
collector. The dust collector knocks the dust down to the point where
it is not noticeable.
For the times when I do need a respirator (e.g., some finishes), I use a
half-face respirator that is of a style that's compatible with my
glasses (I believe it's the MSA brand)
.
"NoOne N Particular" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
> glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to
> sanding. My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses
> at the same time so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing,
> or breathing. If I wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I
> still get dust in my nose. If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my
> glasses and then I can't see. I can't afford one of those helmet
> systems and probably wouldn't use it if I had one. I don't think I
> could get used to it.
>
> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>
> Wayne
>
>
I wear glasses and this dust mask - http://www.northcfr1.com/ . Works
for me.
Brian
>> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>
> I wear glasses and this dust mask - http://www.northcfr1.com/ . Works
> for me.
>
> Brian
>
I'll try again. That link came out ott general. Here is a link to the
respirator that works with my glasses.
http://www2.linkpath.com/indexIssue.php?
onlineIssue=true&prodType=catalogue&sIssueAtGlance=false&pageNumber=7
&flash=0
(Link should be one line).
Brian
Upscale wrote:
>> "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:1rfvd.9870>
>>> Doesn't solve the original problem stated - face mask does not fit
>>> properly when he wears glasses.
>>
>> They must be gargantuan glasses then. I just tried my face shield
>> while wearing regular eye protectors that are also capable of
>> covering my glasses. The face shield doesn't come close to touching
>> anything.
See:
http://www.inthewoodshop.org/methods/renewfs/1.jpg
Josie
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:30:50 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
>glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to sanding.
>My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
>so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
>wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
>If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my glasses and then I can't see. I
>can't afford one of those helmet systems and probably wouldn't use it if I
>had one. I don't think I could get used to it.
>
>So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>
>Wayne
>
dust collection on the sander.
Upscale wrote:
> "firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> See:
>>
>> http://www.inthewoodshop.org/methods/renewfs/1.jpg
>
> Ok, you're showing me a face shield. What about it?
Would you people read the bloody OP? He wanted to know how to wear glasses
with a DUST MASK. A face shield does not provide respiratory protection
nor does it in some magical way make his glasses fit over the dust mask.
Personally, I don't have a problem with my glasses and a dust mask--they
don't sit quite the same as when they're riding on my nose but not far
enough off to be a problem. But then my vision's not all that bad without
them.
If however Wayne's situation is such that that's not viable, then his best
solution would be a full-face filter mask such as the Trend Air-Shield that
Woodcraft sells
<http://www.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4923&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1049%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CShop%20Safety%20%26%20Accessories&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1114%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CSafety%20%2D%20Lungs&Gift=False&mscssid=00020C0A3D85628401E8F4992249E19E>
or the equivalent from any of a number of other companies. This is not a
cheap solution though, costing around $300.
Going to the Woodcraft site and selecting "shop safety and accessories" then
"lung safety" off the menu gives some other possibilities, including one
that looks viable and is around 50 bucks.
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
RKG wrote:
> I wear trifocals and the dusk mask does shift the glasses slightly. It
> was enough to be annoying but since I wear prescription safety glasses
> in the shop the last time I got a new prescription I had the center
> section (arms length view) enlarged slightly now when the glasses get
> shifted that range which is were I am usually using anyway is still ok.
Now that's a good idea. I've found contacts are convenient for this reason
as well, but God help you if you get a piece of dust behind them. I had to
stop wearing them for other reasons though.
> Rick
>
> J. Clarke wrote:
>
>>Upscale wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>>See:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.inthewoodshop.org/methods/renewfs/1.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Ok, you're showing me a face shield. What about it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Would you people read the bloody OP? He wanted to know how to wear
>>glasses
>>with a DUST MASK. A face shield does not provide respiratory protection
>>nor does it in some magical way make his glasses fit over the dust mask.
>>
>>Personally, I don't have a problem with my glasses and a dust mask--they
>>don't sit quite the same as when they're riding on my nose but not far
>>enough off to be a problem. But then my vision's not all that bad without
>>them.
>>
>>If however Wayne's situation is such that that's not viable, then his best
>>solution would be a full-face filter mask such as the Trend Air-Shield
>>that Woodcraft sells
>><http://www.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4923&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1049%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CShop%20Safety%20%26%20Accessories&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1114%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CSafety%20%2D%20Lungs&Gift=False&mscssid=00020C0A3D85628401E8F4992249E19E>
>>or the equivalent from any of a number of other companies. This is not a
>>cheap solution though, costing around $300.
>>
>>Going to the Woodcraft site and selecting "shop safety and accessories"
>>then "lung safety" off the menu gives some other possibilities, including
>>one that looks viable and is around 50 bucks.
>>
>>
>>
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:49:21 -0600, Robert Galloway
<[email protected]> wrote:
Maybe the OP wears those paper masks with the metal torture clip?
I don't think I could wear my glasses with one of them..
>When making a little bit of dust, I use a typical surgical face mask
>which fits OK with my glasses. When painting, I have a rubbery mask
>with a couple of filters on the sides that will also work with the
>glasses. I'm not sure why you're having the problem. I get the mask
>well sealed and then put the glasses on. The nose piece of the glasses
> sits on the upper margin of the dust mask.
>
>bob g.
>
>ps The masks are either 3-M 8210s or US Safety 100 M
>
>NoOne N Particular wrote:
>
>> Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
>> glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to sanding.
>> My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
>> so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
>> wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
>> If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my glasses and then I can't see. I
>> can't afford one of those helmet systems and probably wouldn't use it if I
>> had one. I don't think I could get used to it.
>>
>> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
NoOne N Particular wrote:
> Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
> glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to sanding.
> My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
> so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
> wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
> If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my glasses and then I can't see. I
> can't afford one of those helmet systems and probably wouldn't use it if I
> had one. I don't think I could get used to it.
>
> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>
> Wayne
I get Wiley-X SG-1 <http://www.wileyx.com/sg1.php> glasses issued at
work (US Navy). I use them for all my eye-hazardous workshop stuff (in
addition to their intended purpose) as they have pop-out ballistic
lenses (available in prescription grinds) and head straps that don't
interfere with my other protective gear.
My two cents, but I've had to use a lot of PPE over the years, and these
glasses do the trick for me, and they don't break the bank (the glasses
are issued to me, but I have to pay for the prescription lenses myself).
Chris Horner
You can wear the glasses under a full face shield.
"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Full face shield. It flips up when not it use and is replaceable if it
> gets
>> too scratched up.
>
> I don't think you read the question. He's wearing glasses for vision
> correction, not safety. How does a face shield help vision?
>
> Bob
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
Juergen Hannappel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > You can also get prescription safety glasses.
>
> At -8dpt they come expensive...
>
I'm sure that's true. My prescription is not nearly that strong, and the
OP didn't specify his prescription, so I just threw out the possibility.
Someone with that strong a prescription might want to investigate
contacts or laser surgery too.
--
Hank Gillette
In article <[email protected]>,
Juergen Hannappel <[email protected]> wrote:
> BTW: Corrective glasses are
> not a replacement for safety glasses, because they let in stuff frm
> the side, and you don't want to damage he expensive lenses anyway, so
> get a set of safety glasses that can be worn over the protective ones.
You can also get prescription safety glasses.
--
Hank Gillette
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:26:29 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>NoOne N Particular wrote:
>
>> 10 minutes or so, it would probably take three times that long to get the
>> shop vac moved over (it's almost always connected to my table saw), find
>
>One solution to this is to get the el-cheapo shop vac dust collection setup
>from Lee Valley. It doesn't work terribly well, but it's cheap, and better
>than nothing. I have hoses running to the TS, DP and lathe, with a fourth
>hose as sort of a free floating all around suck things up hose. That lets
>me leave the shop vac parked behind the TS, right next to the trash can
>cyclone.
>
>The whole rig doesn't come anywhere remotely close to capturing all my dust,
>but it helps. Of course one reason the whole setup is tolerable is because
>I have such a tiny shop that the switch on the vac is never more than three
>steps away from any corner.
>
>Some day I'll get a real 660 V DC with quadruple squirrel cages and 12"
>ducts and dual 500 gal. cyclones. From what I hear from some of the
>hardcore DC guys on here, that's barely enough to get me started on a
>proper system for a 10x12 shop. :)
if you get that system, carry lots of extra screws, driver bits, tape
measures and other ballast to avoid being sucked into the cyclone..
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:30:50 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Up until recently I could do my woodworking thing without the need for
>glasses. And it still isn't too much of a problem until I get to sanding.
>My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
>so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
>wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
>If I wear the dust mask, it pushes up my glasses and then I can't see. I
>can't afford one of those helmet systems and probably wouldn't use it if I
>had one. I don't think I could get used to it.
>
>So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
>
>Wayne
>
The Resp-O-Rator works well for me. It does not interfere with
glasses and does not leak if you have a beard. The filters are also
positioned behind your head so that the amount of dust the filter has
to deal with is minimized.
Woodcraft carries them:
<http://www.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4387&gift=False&mscssid=B782411C188F4E9293589A732C3DC3F9>
TWS
"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> See:
>
> http://www.inthewoodshop.org/methods/renewfs/1.jpg
Ok, you're showing me a face shield. What about it?
Silvan <[email protected]> writes:
[...]
> Some day I'll get a real 660 V DC with quadruple squirrel cages and 12"
> ducts and dual 500 gal. cyclones. From what I hear from some of the
But beware that the system does not dump *you* into it's cyclones...
--
Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe
mailto:[email protected] Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869
Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany
CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23
Hank Gillette <[email protected]> writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Juergen Hannappel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> BTW: Corrective glasses are
>> not a replacement for safety glasses, because they let in stuff frm
>> the side, and you don't want to damage he expensive lenses anyway, so
>> get a set of safety glasses that can be worn over the protective ones.
>
> You can also get prescription safety glasses.
At -8dpt they come expensive...
--
Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe
mailto:[email protected] Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869
Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany
CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23
"NoOne N Particular" <[email protected]> writes:
[...]
> My problem now is that I can't wear a dust mask and glasses at the same time
> so when I am sanding I have to chose between seeing, or breathing. If I
> wear my glasses the dust masks don't fit and I still get dust in my nose.
[...]
> So the question is, what do you wearers of glasses do?
Plane and scrape. That way you get a very nice surface without dust
and you can get away without dust mask. BTW: Corrective glasses are
not a replacement for safety glasses, because they let in stuff frm
the side, and you don't want to damage he expensive lenses anyway, so
get a set of safety glasses that can be worn over the protective ones.
--
Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe
mailto:[email protected] Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869
Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany
CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23
"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1rfvd.9870>
> Doesn't solve the original problem stated - face mask does not fit
properly
> when he wears glasses.
They must be gargantuan glasses then. I just tried my face shield while
wearing regular eye protectors that are also capable of covering my glasses.
The face shield doesn't come close to touching anything.