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billw

09/09/2009 3:30 AM

lathe - stuck drive spur and live center

I just got an old Sears Lathe. It's in pretty good shape, except for
some rust. (that I'm getting off now) The drive spur and live center
are both stuck... Any ideas about how to get them out so I can use
other accessories with my new (to me) lathe? I'm soaking them in
kroil. I'll see if they knock out in the moring. If not? Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.


This topic has 10 replies

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

09/09/2009 10:02 AM

DejaVoodoo wrote:
> On Sep 9, 2:30 am, billw <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I just got an old Sears Lathe. It's in pretty good shape, except for
>> some rust. (that I'm getting off now) The drive spur and live center
>> are both stuck... Any ideas about how to get them out so I can use
>> other accessories with my new (to me) lathe? I'm soaking them in
>> kroil. I'll see if they knock out in the moring. If not? Any ideas?
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> On my lathe I have a metal rod I tap with a mallot to get the center
> out - make sure you were a leather glove or perhaps have a towel
> folded up to catch the center in.

Right. Isn't the shaft hollow to facilitate such an action?

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

09/09/2009 6:18 PM

On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:30:59 -0400, billw <[email protected]> wrote:

>I just got an old Sears Lathe. It's in pretty good shape, except for
>some rust. (that I'm getting off now) The drive spur and live center
>are both stuck... Any ideas about how to get them out so I can use
>other accessories with my new (to me) lathe? I'm soaking them in
>kroil. I'll see if they knock out in the moring. If not? Any ideas?
>Thanks in advance.

Liquid Wrench.

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billw

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

09/09/2009 11:28 PM

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:09:04 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Phisherman" wrote:
>
>> I have never used Kroil, guess never needed it.
>
>Kroil is worth getting to know.
>
>Kano Labs
>Nashville, TN
>
>They have an 800# and a web site for ordering.
>
>Lew
>
>
Kroil did the trick. The drive spur and live center were rusted
solid, but this morning and solid tap with a brass rod, and they
popped out. I wasn't sure they were going to break free...

Dm

DejaVoodoo

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

09/09/2009 6:31 AM

On Sep 9, 2:30=A0am, billw <[email protected]> wrote:
> I just got an old Sears Lathe. It's in pretty good shape, except for
> some rust. (that I'm getting off now) =A0The drive spur and live center
> are both stuck... Any ideas about how to get them out so I can use
> other accessories with my new (to me) lathe? =A0I'm soaking them in
> kroil. I'll see if they knock out in the moring. =A0If not? Any ideas?
> Thanks in advance.

On my lathe I have a metal rod I tap with a mallot to get the center
out - make sure you were a leather glove or perhaps have a towel
folded up to catch the center in.

DD

"Dr. Deb"

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

09/09/2009 6:52 AM

billw wrote:

> I just got an old Sears Lathe. It's in pretty good shape, except for
> some rust. (that I'm getting off now) The drive spur and live center
> are both stuck... Any ideas about how to get them out so I can use
> other accessories with my new (to me) lathe? I'm soaking them in
> kroil. I'll see if they knock out in the moring. If not? Any ideas?
> Thanks in advance.


There is a product, you can get it at your local NAPA auto parts store,
called "PB Blaster" which is extremely good on rust.

If that does not work, there is always heat. The downside of heat is the
results can vary widely between success and total failure.

Deb

Dm

DejaVoodoo

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

09/09/2009 8:21 AM

On Sep 9, 10:02=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> DejaVoodoo wrote:
> > On Sep 9, 2:30 am, billw <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I just got an old Sears Lathe. It's in pretty good shape, except for
> >> some rust. (that I'm getting off now) The drive spur and live center
> >> are both stuck... Any ideas about how to get them out so I can use
> >> other accessories with my new (to me) lathe? I'm soaking them in
> >> kroil. I'll see if they knock out in the moring. If not? Any ideas?
> >> Thanks in advance.
>
> > On my lathe I have a metal rod I tap with a mallot to get the center
> > out - make sure you were a leather glove or perhaps have a towel
> > folded up to catch the center in.
>
> Right. Isn't the shaft hollow to facilitate such an action?

yes is is hallow all the way through and the chuck or center is just a
pressure fit inside the cavity. Should not need any lube to get it
out, just a little tap.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

09/09/2009 8:02 PM

Phisherman wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:30:59 -0400, billw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I just got an old Sears Lathe. It's in pretty good shape, except for
>> some rust. (that I'm getting off now) The drive spur and live center
>> are both stuck... Any ideas about how to get them out so I can use
>> other accessories with my new (to me) lathe? I'm soaking them in
>> kroil. I'll see if they knock out in the moring. If not? Any ideas?
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> Liquid Wrench.

If Kroil isn't doing it then Liquid Wrench won't even _think_ about it.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

10/09/2009 3:09 AM

"Phisherman" wrote:

> I have never used Kroil, guess never needed it.

Kroil is worth getting to know.

Kano Labs
Nashville, TN

They have an 800# and a web site for ordering.

Lew


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Phisherman

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

09/09/2009 11:01 PM

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 20:02:08 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Phisherman wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:30:59 -0400, billw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I just got an old Sears Lathe. It's in pretty good shape, except for
>>> some rust. (that I'm getting off now) The drive spur and live center
>>> are both stuck... Any ideas about how to get them out so I can use
>>> other accessories with my new (to me) lathe? I'm soaking them in
>>> kroil. I'll see if they knock out in the moring. If not? Any ideas?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Liquid Wrench.
>
>If Kroil isn't doing it then Liquid Wrench won't even _think_ about it.

I have never used Kroil, guess never needed it. But, like the other
posters stated about a knock-out rod. Mine has a brass tip to prevent
spur damage.

MH

"Martin H. Eastburn"

in reply to billw on 09/09/2009 3:30 AM

10/09/2009 10:30 PM

I use a long bolt (custom made by myself) that locks in my Morse 4 or Morse 2
tools. It keeps the tool from coming out if I work against it while turning.

I use them to extract the tool - by un-screwing a couple of turns - leaving
a number of threads engaged and give it a rap with a rubber mallet.

Sometimes it takes a stronger go than that. But I have a shot filled mallet
before I get out something bigger.

I started bolting it in so when moving left to right without a tailstock
engaged the spur or else - doesn't disengage.

Something like a drift pin in function.

Martin

Phisherman wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 20:02:08 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Phisherman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:30:59 -0400, billw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just got an old Sears Lathe. It's in pretty good shape, except for
>>>> some rust. (that I'm getting off now) The drive spur and live center
>>>> are both stuck... Any ideas about how to get them out so I can use
>>>> other accessories with my new (to me) lathe? I'm soaking them in
>>>> kroil. I'll see if they knock out in the moring. If not? Any ideas?
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Liquid Wrench.
>> If Kroil isn't doing it then Liquid Wrench won't even _think_ about it.
>
> I have never used Kroil, guess never needed it. But, like the other
> posters stated about a knock-out rod. Mine has a brass tip to prevent
> spur damage.


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