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"Jimmy"

07/01/2006 9:17 PM

Dewalt 17" ras pics

I posted a couple of pics of the 17"ras that runs on120v. on abpw.
Must be pretty old, but seems to cut fine. Worth $200? He's in no hurry to
sell it, but does not use it much at all anymore.


This topic has 18 replies

UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 10:03 PM

Toller wrote:

> Many can be changed to 240v easily enough.
> Unfortunately this looks like another one of those great opportunities I
> will regret later on.

Not to worry, there will be another chance to score one - perhaps an
even better one.

I passed on a DeWalt from the late 50's, early 60's I found at an estate
sale. Guy had a lot of stuff there but this was in primo shape, 10"
with probably half a dozen carbide blades, and at least ten more regular
blades and, IIRC, a dado set.

This was the DeWalt with the heavy duty "spatter type" paint job and the
elevation crank sitting on top of the column.

I didn't need it and, unfortunately, didn't have the space to store it
even temporarily while trying to sell it. They wanted $70 for the whole
shebang. Went back with the van to pick up another item I'd purchased
on Saturday - now we're talking half price day - and was told that it
went out the door, mid-morning, for $35. Hell, the OEM stand it was
sitting on was worth that!

Keep looking. If you want one, you'll eventually be given an
opportunity to "steal" one.

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

07/01/2006 4:33 PM

"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I posted a couple of pics of the 17"ras that runs on120v. on abpw.
> Must be pretty old, but seems to cut fine. Worth $200? He's in no hurry to
> sell it, but does not use it much at all anymore.
>
Looked like a 10" B&D to me!
Greg

RR

"Rumpty"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 5:16 PM

You have what looks like a 7730 which was a B&D design/downgrade from the
old deWalts, it has a manual brake, will not power a 10" blade correctly, it
is an open arm design which is not the best model to have. This model uses
a starter relay which is subject to failure, but esily replaceable. It's
NOT worth $200.

R


"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:idWvf.52384$q%[email protected]...
>I posted a couple of pics of the 17"ras that runs on120v. on abpw.
> Must be pretty old, but seems to cut fine. Worth $200? He's in no hurry to
> sell it, but does not use it much at all anymore.
>

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 3:24 PM


"badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Toller wrote:
>>
>> Last month I saw a 12" Dewalt, in beautiful condition, go for $200 at
>> auction. Sadly I didn't have room for it.
>> In general, older 10" go for about $70. Maybe yours is something
>> special.
>
> Hummm, in the UK it'd go for = $500....
>
Maybe there is business potential for buying them here for $70 and shipping
them to the UK. The supply seems nearly unlimited.

bb

badger

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 10:45 AM



Toller wrote:
>
> Last month I saw a 12" Dewalt, in beautiful condition, go for $200 at
> auction. Sadly I didn't have room for it.
> In general, older 10" go for about $70. Maybe yours is something special.

Hummm, in the UK it'd go for = $500....

bb

badger

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 8:25 PM



Toller wrote:
>>Hummm, in the UK it'd go for = $500....
>>
>
> Maybe there is business potential for buying them here for $70 and shipping
> them to the UK. The supply seems nearly unlimited.

Whereas here (UK) the supply is very limited....120v would need a
transformer, but as we run site tools on 110v that wouldn't be difficult!

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 4:45 PM


"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
> More pics on abpw that show otherwise, on the side it says DeWalt Power
> Shop, on the front it says B&D Power Shop. I'm confused. When did B&D buy
> DeWalt?


Possibly when that saw was built it was built like a Lincoln automobile.
Owned by Ford and with lots of Ford pieces and Ford stamps on the car with a
few Lincoln pieces to make it unique from other Fords. Take the Early 70's
T-bird and Continental for instance.

That does not mean you have a bad saw, as way back when, B&D still had a
reputable name as a builder of power tools.

nn

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

07/01/2006 8:53 PM

Jimmy wrote:
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:zIYvf.52414$q%[email protected]...
>>It's a DeWalt B&D saw. Never heard of a 17" blade ras.
>>
>>No, it's a Black and Decker. Dewalt was never involved.
>>
>>
>
> More pics on abpw that show otherwise, on the side it says DeWalt Power
> Shop, on the front it says B&D Power Shop. I'm confused. When did B&D buy
> DeWalt?
>
>

In 1960.

http://www.blackanddecker.com/CustomerCenter/Company-Information.aspx

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CS

"Charles Self"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 12:47 AM

"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Jimmy wrote:
>> "Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:idWvf.52384$q%[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>I posted a couple of pics of the 17"ras that runs on120v. on abpw.
>>>>Must be pretty old, but seems to cut fine. Worth $200? He's in no hurry
>>>>to sell it, but does not use it much at all anymore.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Looked like a 10" B&D to me!
>>>Greg
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry, I mean 10 inch blade, 17" carriage travel. It's a 12 amp motor, no
>> hp rating.It's a DeWalt B&D saw. Never heard of a 17" blade ras.
> Yeah, well saws are categorized by the diameter of the blade, not the
> travel distance or the distance from one edge of the table to the saw
> blade, although those measurements may be important to the buyer.

Yes. I'm not sure I'd pay $200 for this saw unless it was in super
condition, considering its age. The pictures didn't tell much about that.
There's more cast iron there then you'll find in newer saws, but the
opportunities for excessive wear have been greater, too.

GE

"George E. Cawthon"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 12:22 AM

Jimmy wrote:
> "Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:idWvf.52384$q%[email protected]...
>>
>>>I posted a couple of pics of the 17"ras that runs on120v. on abpw.
>>>Must be pretty old, but seems to cut fine. Worth $200? He's in no hurry
>>>to sell it, but does not use it much at all anymore.
>>>
>>
>>Looked like a 10" B&D to me!
>>Greg
>>
>
>
> Sorry, I mean 10 inch blade, 17" carriage travel. It's a 12 amp motor, no hp
> rating.It's a DeWalt B&D saw. Never heard of a 17" blade ras.
>
>
Yeah, well saws are categorized by the diameter of
the blade, not the travel distance or the distance
from one edge of the table to the saw blade,
although those measurements may be important to
the buyer.

Jr

"Jimmy"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 1:43 AM


"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:zIYvf.52414$q%[email protected]...
> It's a DeWalt B&D saw. Never heard of a 17" blade ras.
>>
> No, it's a Black and Decker. Dewalt was never involved.
>
>
More pics on abpw that show otherwise, on the side it says DeWalt Power
Shop, on the front it says B&D Power Shop. I'm confused. When did B&D buy
DeWalt?

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 3:47 AM


"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:idWvf.52384$q%[email protected]...
>>>I posted a couple of pics of the 17"ras that runs on120v. on abpw.
>>> Must be pretty old, but seems to cut fine. Worth $200? He's in no hurry
>>> to sell it, but does not use it much at all anymore.
>>>
>> Looked like a 10" B&D to me!
>> Greg
>>
>
> Sorry, I mean 10 inch blade, 17" carriage travel. It's a 12 amp motor, no
> hp rating.It's a DeWalt B&D saw. Never heard of a 17" blade ras.
Last month I saw a 12" Dewalt, in beautiful condition, go for $200 at
auction. Sadly I didn't have room for it.
In general, older 10" go for about $70. Maybe yours is something special.

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

07/01/2006 7:11 PM

In article <idWvf.52384$q%[email protected]>,
"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I posted a couple of pics of the 17"ras that runs on120v. on abpw.

As I seem to recall from the previous thread, folks rightfully assumed
you were looking at a 17" diameter blade saw as blade diameter is the
way radial arm saws are sized. The motor to power a 17" blade (an
unlikely size) wouldn't run on 120v which was what all the hubbub was
about.

A 10" saw is on the small side for radial arms. 12" would be better and
14" would be sweet. (I'm thinking the 12", 14" and larger would
absolutely require 220v.)
--
Owen Lowe
The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
__________

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Corporate States of America and to the
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TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

07/01/2006 9:24 PM


"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:idWvf.52384$q%[email protected]...
>I posted a couple of pics of the 17"ras that runs on120v. on abpw.
> Must be pretty old, but seems to cut fine. Worth $200? He's in no hurry to
> sell it, but does not use it much at all anymore.
I can't get abpw, but I will trust you that it is lovely.
How many amps is the motor?

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 9:00 PM


"badger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Toller wrote:
>>>Hummm, in the UK it'd go for = $500....
>>>
>>
>> Maybe there is business potential for buying them here for $70 and
>> shipping them to the UK. The supply seems nearly unlimited.
>
> Whereas here (UK) the supply is very limited....120v would need a
> transformer, but as we run site tools on 110v that wouldn't be difficult!

Many can be changed to 240v easily enough.
Unfortunately this looks like another one of those great opportunities I
will regret later on.
>

Cs

"CW"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 2:55 AM

I was under the impression that it was more recent than that. I have never
seen an older saw marked like that.

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jimmy wrote:
> > "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:zIYvf.52414$q%[email protected]...
> >>It's a DeWalt B&D saw. Never heard of a 17" blade ras.
> >>
> >>No, it's a Black and Decker. Dewalt was never involved.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > More pics on abpw that show otherwise, on the side it says DeWalt Power
> > Shop, on the front it says B&D Power Shop. I'm confused. When did B&D
buy
> > DeWalt?
> >
> >
>
> In 1960.
>
> http://www.blackanddecker.com/CustomerCenter/Company-Information.aspx
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]
> (Remove -SPAM- to send email)

Cs

"CW"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 12:55 AM


"Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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It's a DeWalt B&D saw. Never heard of a 17" blade ras.
>
No, it's a Black and Decker. Dewalt was never involved.

Jr

"Jimmy"

in reply to "Jimmy" on 07/01/2006 9:17 PM

08/01/2006 12:06 AM


"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Jimmy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:idWvf.52384$q%[email protected]...
>>I posted a couple of pics of the 17"ras that runs on120v. on abpw.
>> Must be pretty old, but seems to cut fine. Worth $200? He's in no hurry
>> to sell it, but does not use it much at all anymore.
>>
> Looked like a 10" B&D to me!
> Greg
>

Sorry, I mean 10 inch blade, 17" carriage travel. It's a 12 amp motor, no hp
rating.It's a DeWalt B&D saw. Never heard of a 17" blade ras.


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