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"sweet sawdust"

19/05/2009 10:24 AM

Small turnings

I have a customer who wants me to make some Christmas ornaments in
quantities of around 1000+ units. Each ornament would require five spindle
turnings the smallest being about 5/16 "dia to 1/4" dia and about 2 inches
long. I can cut these by hand with no problem, when I tried a duplicator
all I got was fancy fire wood. Since I don't want to even think about
turning all of them by hand, and the cost would be outasight, I contacted
some commercial turning concerns and they turned me down. Size is two small
for thier equipment. Also contacted WPMA and they told me "Good Luck" but
had no one they knew of. Any one out there have any ideas.


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"sweet sawdust"

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

19/05/2009 2:40 PM


"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> sweet sawdust wrote:
>> ">
>>> Make several from 1 stick of wood and then cut them a part when done
>>
>>
>> Now why didn't I think of That! Actualy I did try it and with more then
>> 3 to a "stick" they break apart in the worst possible place and you have
>> pertty kinkeling.
>>>
>
> Yeah, that small a diameter, I'd be surprised if you could do two.
> I've seen video of a dude who puts supports on the back side the a long,
> thin piece to keep it from pushing out. They were nothing more than a
> piece of wood, softer than what was being cut. Yeah, it rubs and there
> is friction and heat, but not enough to worry about. It actually acted
> to buff out the piece where it was rubbing.
>
> I don't know what your margin is, but it might be possible the have a
> tool shop grind the entire profile on one tool or bottom half on one and
> top half on another.
>
> You could crank them out pretty quick, like that,
> just working your way down a long piece of stock.
>
>
> --
>
> -MIKE-
>
> "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> --Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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Problem with any type of scraping is that it seems to be too much drag and
breaks the wood, actually twists it apart. The support you mentioned is
something I haven't tried but will give it a go and see what happens.

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"sweet sawdust"

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

19/05/2009 11:37 AM


">
> Make several from 1 stick of wood and then cut them a part when done


Now why didn't I think of That! Actualy I did try it and with more then 3
to a "stick" they break apart in the worst possible place and you have
pertty kinkeling.
>
>

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

19/05/2009 9:30 PM


"sweet sawdust" wrote:


>Ouch, you just hit my wallet bone and it hurts!
> I don't know if that woud be worth the cost, but it would probably
> work.

There have got to be a ton of turret lathes just sitting around
colleting dust.

Time to farm the job out or start checking the used machinery dealers.

Since Warner & Swasey is long gone from Cleveland, should be able to
cut a deal.

Lew

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

19/05/2009 12:22 PM

sweet sawdust wrote:
> ">
>> Make several from 1 stick of wood and then cut them a part when done
>
>
> Now why didn't I think of That! Actualy I did try it and with more then 3
> to a "stick" they break apart in the worst possible place and you have
> pertty kinkeling.
>>

Yeah, that small a diameter, I'd be surprised if you could do two.
I've seen video of a dude who puts supports on the back side the a long,
thin piece to keep it from pushing out. They were nothing more than a
piece of wood, softer than what was being cut. Yeah, it rubs and there
is friction and heat, but not enough to worry about. It actually acted
to buff out the piece where it was rubbing.

I don't know what your margin is, but it might be possible the have a
tool shop grind the entire profile on one tool or bottom half on one and
top half on another.

You could crank them out pretty quick, like that,
just working your way down a long piece of stock.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

19/05/2009 11:11 AM


"sweet sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a customer who wants me to make some Christmas ornaments in
> quantities of around 1000+ units. Each ornament would require five
> spindle
> turnings the smallest being about 5/16 "dia to 1/4" dia and about 2 inches
> long. I can cut these by hand with no problem, when I tried a duplicator
> all I got was fancy fire wood. Since I don't want to even think about
> turning all of them by hand, and the cost would be outasight, I contacted
> some commercial turning concerns and they turned me down. Size is two
> small
> for thier equipment. Also contacted WPMA and they told me "Good Luck" but
> had no one they knew of. Any one out there have any ideas.
>
>

Make several from 1 stick of wood and then cut them a part when done

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

19/05/2009 7:21 PM

"sweet sawdust" wrote:

>I have a customer who wants me to make some Christmas ornaments in
> quantities of around 1000+ units. Each ornament would require five
> spindle
> turnings the smallest being about 5/16 "dia to 1/4" dia and about 2
> inches
> long. I can cut these by hand with no problem, when I tried a
> duplicator
> all I got was fancy fire wood.
<snip>

Have you thought about a turret lathe?

Probably have to play with the speeds and feeds, but based on your
description and quantity needed, a turret lathe would be a natural.

Lew


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notbob

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

19/05/2009 3:34 PM

On 2009-05-19, sweet sawdust <[email protected]> wrote:

> had no one they knew of. Any one out there have any ideas.

Gotta be turned? I'm thinking dowels.

nb

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"sweet sawdust"

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

19/05/2009 10:56 AM


"notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2009-05-19, sweet sawdust <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> had no one they knew of. Any one out there have any ideas.
>
> Gotta be turned? I'm thinking dowels.
>
> nb
Gotta be turned, tapers and beads and coves, dowels will not work. I wish
they would.

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"sweet sawdust"

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

21/05/2009 12:41 PM

Found company to make turnings and can get turnings and do finished item for
7.00 each first 1000 and 5.50 for 2nd 1000. Now to see if he takes it.

Thanks to all for you assistance


"sweet sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a customer who wants me to make some Christmas ornaments in
> quantities of around 1000+ units. Each ornament would require five
> spindle
> turnings the smallest being about 5/16 "dia to 1/4" dia and about 2 inches
> long. I can cut these by hand with no problem, when I tried a duplicator
> all I got was fancy fire wood. Since I don't want to even think about
> turning all of them by hand, and the cost would be outasight, I contacted
> some commercial turning concerns and they turned me down. Size is two
> small
> for thier equipment. Also contacted WPMA and they told me "Good Luck" but
> had no one they knew of. Any one out there have any ideas.
>
>

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"sweet sawdust"

in reply to "sweet sawdust" on 19/05/2009 10:24 AM

19/05/2009 2:42 PM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "sweet sawdust" wrote:
>
>>I have a customer who wants me to make some Christmas ornaments in
>> quantities of around 1000+ units. Each ornament would require five
>> spindle
>> turnings the smallest being about 5/16 "dia to 1/4" dia and about 2
>> inches
>> long. I can cut these by hand with no problem, when I tried a duplicator
>> all I got was fancy fire wood.
> <snip>
>
> Have you thought about a turret lathe?
>
> Probably have to play with the speeds and feeds, but based on your
> description and quantity needed, a turret lathe would be a natural.
>
> Lew

Ouch! you just hit my wallet bone and it hurts!
I don't know if that woud be worth the cost, but it would probably work.
>
>
>


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