Delta JT360 jointer dust chute clogging

On 22 Jan 2004 08:22:09 -0800, Daniel Martin wrote:

> Trying to find a solution to my clogging dust chute on my Delta
> jointer JT360. I connect a 6hp shop vacuum to the 4" port using a
> reducer with a 2½ hose connected. This works fine for the first
> couple of passes, taking about 1/16" off each pass, then the chute
> clogs up and the in feed table gets covered quickly with wood
> shavings. I'm jointing kiln dried ¾ pine.
>
> Another important detail is that its winter here and its wicked cold
> making the air dry and causing static build up on everything. Not
> sure if this contributes to the problem, but I prefer to give all
> details in hopes of a good solution in return.
>
> There has to be a solution to this problem. H E L P !
>
> Thanks, Daniel

I have the same jointer and have it hooked up to my 6.5hp shop vac by
attaching a 4" - 2.5" reducer to the 4" outlet with duct tape (didn't have
any spare 4" hose at the time) and the nozzle for my shop vac fits directly
into the 2.5" port of the adapter. I also put some duct tape at the bottom
of the chute to close up the leaks and keep chips from falling out the
bottom. I haven't had any clogging, but I didn't like how the chute
extends below the outlet for the dust hole.

Shawn

Take smaller bites. 1/16th is huge. Tom
Daniel wrote:>Trying to find a solution to my
clogging dust chute on my Delta
>jointer JT360. I connect a 6hp shop vacuum to the 4" port using a
>reducer with a 2½ hose connected. This works fine for the first
>couple of passes, taking about 1/16" off each pass, then the chute
>clogs up and the in feed table gets covered quickly with wood
>shavings. I'm jointing kiln dried ¾ pine.
>
>Another important detail is that its winter here and its wicked cold
>making the air dry and causing static build up on everything. Not
>sure if this contributes to the problem, but I prefer to give all
>details in hopes of a good solution in return.
>
>There has to be a solution to this problem. H E L P !
>
>Thanks, Daniel
>
Someday, it'll all be over....

Y'know, it may not be thickness. You may be the victim of your own
sharpening. When the blades on my planer are sharp, the chips are as long
as the board is wide, and they are tough to bend double and go through the
hose.

"D. Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Thanks Tom, will try less taking passes less than 1/16
>
> What does puzzle me is why is there a preset for 1/8" if 1/16" is
> considered huge. I figured that taking half of what the preset is I
> should be fine.
>
> Thanks, Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 Jan 2004 16:53:43 GMT, [email protected] (Tom) wrote:
>
> >Take smaller bites. 1/16th is huge. Tom
> > Daniel wrote:>Trying to find a solution to my
> >clogging dust chute on my Delta
> >>jointer JT360. I connect a 6hp shop vacuum to the 4" port using a
> >>reducer with a 2½ hose connected. This works fine for the first
> >>couple of passes, taking about 1/16" off each pass, then the chute
> >>clogs up and the in feed table gets covered quickly with wood
> >>shavings. I'm jointing kiln dried ¾ pine.
> >>
> >>Another important detail is that its winter here and its wicked cold
> >>making the air dry and causing static build up on everything. Not
> >>sure if this contributes to the problem, but I prefer to give all
> >>details in hopes of a good solution in return.
> >>
> >>There has to be a solution to this problem. H E L P !
> >>
> >>Thanks, Daniel
> >>
> >Someday, it'll all be over....
>

Shopvac doesn't have the airflow capacity to handle this

Dispite the claimed "6hp", it actually has something like a 1.25hp
motor and moves less air than you want. Good vacumm cleaner for the
shop, terrible as a DustColletor


John

On 22 Jan 2004 08:22:09 -0800, [email protected] (Daniel
Martin) wrote:

>Trying to find a solution to my clogging dust chute on my Delta
>jointer JT360. I connect a 6hp shop vacuum to the 4" port using a
>reducer with a 2½ hose connected. This works fine for the first
>couple of passes, taking about 1/16" off each pass, then the chute
>clogs up and the in feed table gets covered quickly with wood
>shavings. I'm jointing kiln dried ¾ pine.
>
>Another important detail is that its winter here and its wicked cold
>making the air dry and causing static build up on everything. Not
>sure if this contributes to the problem, but I prefer to give all
>details in hopes of a good solution in return.
>
>There has to be a solution to this problem. H E L P !
>
>Thanks, Daniel

Are you sure the vac is getting everything in the first couple of
passes? Before I had my jointer hooked up to a DC I could make several
passes before the shavings would finally back up to the point where
they'd come out of the top. It sounds like the same thing that is
happening to you which leads me to believe you aren't really getting the
shavings in the first few passes. Try a pass or two then with a small
stick reach up through the dust port and I'll bet you can fish some
shavings out that your vac didn't get.

Here's another thought: Depending on how rough your wood is as you make
successive passes your jointer is going to remove more material. This
could overwhelm your vac whereas your vac can keep up with the first
pass or two. I still lean towards my first suggestion.

--
Larry C in Auburn WA
"Daniel Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Trying to find a solution to my clogging dust chute on my Delta
> jointer JT360. I connect a 6hp shop vacuum to the 4" port using a
> reducer with a 2½ hose connected. This works fine for the first
> couple of passes, taking about 1/16" off each pass, then the chute
> clogs up and the in feed table gets covered quickly with wood
> shavings. I'm jointing kiln dried ¾ pine.
>
> Another important detail is that its winter here and its wicked cold
> making the air dry and causing static build up on everything. Not
> sure if this contributes to the problem, but I prefer to give all
> details in hopes of a good solution in return.
>
> There has to be a solution to this problem. H E L P !
>
> Thanks, Daniel

Thank you all for your help on this one, will be trying out some of
the recommendations this weekend.

Also I'm aware that the 6hp vacuum is over rated but I must say that
this Ridgid vac does a pretty good job compared to my 3hp Shopvac. I
must warn anyone entering my shop with a wig to be cautious...

Thanks, Daniel


On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:13:49 GMT, "Bill Hinshaw"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Dan,
>
>Some time ago when I was having the same problem someone on the wRec
>suggested just taking off the vac attachment to open the discharge throat
>fully and let the chips fall in a box. Jointer "dust" is coarse stuff, even
>when taking 64ths, and this does not result in any significant floating
>sawdust, but the clogging problem disappeared forever. It was a really
>effective solution to a big nuisance.
>
>Bill
>
>
>"Daniel Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Trying to find a solution to my clogging dust chute on my Delta
>> jointer JT360. I connect a 6hp shop vacuum to the 4" port using a
>> reducer with a 2½ hose connected. This works fine for the first
>> couple of passes, taking about 1/16" off each pass, then the chute
>> clogs up and the in feed table gets covered quickly with wood
>> shavings. I'm jointing kiln dried ¾ pine.
>>
>> Another important detail is that its winter here and its wicked cold
>> making the air dry and causing static build up on everything. Not
>> sure if this contributes to the problem, but I prefer to give all
>> details in hopes of a good solution in return.
>>
>> There has to be a solution to this problem. H E L P !
>>
>> Thanks, Daniel
>

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:34:56 -0600, John Crea <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Shopvac doesn't have the airflow capacity to handle this

Sure it does. I did this with a 6" jointer for quite a while before I
put in central dust collection. With ONE tool and a short hose, the
vac did fine, with the exception of keeping up with wide boards on a
thicknesser.

Chances are, there isn't a smooth flowing path into the hose, or the
1/16" cut is creating so many chips at once, the reducer is causing
the problem. Check the path and try lighter cuts.

Barry

Thanks Tom, will try less taking passes less than 1/16

What does puzzle me is why is there a preset for 1/8" if 1/16" is
considered huge. I figured that taking half of what the preset is I
should be fine.

Thanks, Daniel





On 22 Jan 2004 16:53:43 GMT, [email protected] (Tom) wrote:

>Take smaller bites. 1/16th is huge. Tom
> Daniel wrote:>Trying to find a solution to my
>clogging dust chute on my Delta
>>jointer JT360. I connect a 6hp shop vacuum to the 4" port using a
>>reducer with a 2½ hose connected. This works fine for the first
>>couple of passes, taking about 1/16" off each pass, then the chute
>>clogs up and the in feed table gets covered quickly with wood
>>shavings. I'm jointing kiln dried ¾ pine.
>>
>>Another important detail is that its winter here and its wicked cold
>>making the air dry and causing static build up on everything. Not
>>sure if this contributes to the problem, but I prefer to give all
>>details in hopes of a good solution in return.
>>
>>There has to be a solution to this problem. H E L P !
>>
>>Thanks, Daniel
>>
>Someday, it'll all be over....

I have a grizzleguts 8" joiner and have used a 4" hose connected to the 4"
square outlet. I also have the two HP grizzelguts DC unit and use 4" piping
throughout.

That being said I still get clogs on my joiner as you do, to reduce these I
have sealed all orifices with thje exception of the throat, duct tape and
shop rage at the infeed and outfeed table adjustments. I believe the biggest
problem now is the transition from square to round . So now I am going to
get a piece of AC ducting that gives me a smooth transition from round to
smooth and I do believe this will solve the problem.....mjh

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"Daniel Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Trying to find a solution to my clogging dust chute on my Delta
> jointer JT360. I connect a 6hp shop vacuum to the 4" port using a
> reducer with a 2½ hose connected. This works fine for the first
> couple of passes, taking about 1/16" off each pass, then the chute
> clogs up and the in feed table gets covered quickly with wood
> shavings. I'm jointing kiln dried ¾ pine.
>
> Another important detail is that its winter here and its wicked cold
> making the air dry and causing static build up on everything. Not
> sure if this contributes to the problem, but I prefer to give all
> details in hopes of a good solution in return.
>
> There has to be a solution to this problem. H E L P !
>
> Thanks, Daniel

Dan,

Some time ago when I was having the same problem someone on the wRec
suggested just taking off the vac attachment to open the discharge throat
fully and let the chips fall in a box. Jointer "dust" is coarse stuff, even
when taking 64ths, and this does not result in any significant floating
sawdust, but the clogging problem disappeared forever. It was a really
effective solution to a big nuisance.

Bill


"Daniel Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Trying to find a solution to my clogging dust chute on my Delta
> jointer JT360. I connect a 6hp shop vacuum to the 4" port using a
> reducer with a 2½ hose connected. This works fine for the first
> couple of passes, taking about 1/16" off each pass, then the chute
> clogs up and the in feed table gets covered quickly with wood
> shavings. I'm jointing kiln dried ¾ pine.
>
> Another important detail is that its winter here and its wicked cold
> making the air dry and causing static build up on everything. Not
> sure if this contributes to the problem, but I prefer to give all
> details in hopes of a good solution in return.
>
> There has to be a solution to this problem. H E L P !
>
> Thanks, Daniel