On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:28:56 -0800 (PST), lzoto <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Nov 14, 11:35 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> lzoto wrote:
>> > I have come across a new in the box planer from 1985 that has never
>> > been opened. I am wondering if not having been run all these years
>> > could be an issue. Any other info on the planer would be helpful.
>>
>> If everything moves freely by hand, you should be okay.
>>
>> Then, give it the old "smoke test" - turn it on and see if it smokes.
>>
>> I just picked up a used one - it's my first and it works swell. The first
>> time you use it, do so in the driveway. The think makes an unbelievable
>> amount of shavings. Incredible. Absolutely amazing. So much so that one of
>> my cats who was watching the experiement, ambled off shaking his head.
>>
>> You can get an aftermarket shaving collector into which you can plug your
>> dust collector with really good results.
>
>Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
>that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
>decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
>inexpensive and small.
Talk him down to $100 and you have yourself a deal. I got a lightly
used Griz 13" planer for that and it came with an extra set of blades.
I don't feel it's worth $200. YMMV?
--
To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.
-- J. K. Rowling
lzoto <[email protected]> wrote in news:d7741170-ceca-4e93-a9ae-91f24c4910d4
@i17g2000vbq.googlegroups.com:
> I have come across a new in the box planer from 1985 that has never
> been opened. I am wondering if not having been run all these years
> could be an issue. Any other info on the planer would be helpful.
>
One common issue is old lube. Sometimes it'll set up and be more like
glue than lubrication. Don't take the planer apart more than you have
to, but check that the accessible parts move freely and aren't stuck in
place.
When testing electronics for the first time, I like to use a power strip
with an on/off switch. I turn the device on from the power strip and if
anything goes wrong my thumb is still on the switch to shut power off
immediately.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
lzoto <[email protected]> wrote in
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>
> Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
> that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
> decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
> inexpensive and small.
Careful... Once you see how much better consistent thickness boards look
and assemble, you'll begin every project with the planer. Since I got my
planer, the only thing I've put together without dimensioning first has
been one-off jigs and things where it doesn't matter how thick the boards
are.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
lzoto wrote:
>I thought it should be $100 or less, but I have to say that I am
attracted to it's age. Despite the bells and whistles you get with
newer products, the quality of the individual parts, including the
grade of steel they used back then, were far superior.
-----------------------------------
Whether you spend $100 or $200 is moot in the overall scheme of
things, if the planer is a functioning device.
I had an AP10 until someone decided they needed it more than I did.
It always did a good job for me.
If you budget does not support the $500-$600 investment current bench
top planers require, then cut a deal for what ever price you can and
start using you new AP10.
A year from now, the price paid won't matter.
Lew
Neil Brooks <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> IIRC, Home Depot recently had the DeWalt DW735 on sale for something
> like $275.
>
> Better deals are out there. I agree: for less than $100 ... I might
> get the Ryobi ... but at $200 ??
>
> I'd be doing that cat-shaking-head-while-walking-away thing.
How recent was that? My DW735 was $535, and I thought I got a pretty
decent deal on it.
Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.
On Nov 15, 1:32=A0pm, Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:28:56 -0800, lzoto wrote:
> > Thank you for your input. =A0He wants $200 for it which seems high for
> > that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
> > decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
> > inexpensive and small.
>
> That seems high to me. =A0I think $100 would be a fair price. =A0Yes, it'=
s
> "new", but the newer planers are wider, snipe less, have better dust
> collection, more power, etc..
>
> That said, I've got one I bought in the '80s and it's still running. =A0S=
o
> it is a good quality tool. =A0I've heard the current Ryobi tools aren't
> what they used to be.
>
> =A0I recently bought a small thickness planer and now use it for the fina=
l
> 32nd of an inch or so - the AP10, like any planer, will cause a little
> tearout on some woods and the sanding gets rid of that.
>
> --
> Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
I thought it should be $100 or less, but I have to say that I am
attracted to it's age. Despite the bells and whistles you get with
newer products, the quality of the individual parts, including the
grade of steel they used back then, were far superior.
On Nov 18, 11:30=A0am, Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:02:46 -0800, lzoto wrote:
>
> > Cheaper and wider! =A0I really appreciate all the input.
>
> Read this review before you get carried away :-).
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/Factory-Reconditioned-Ryobi-Surface-RapidSet-
> ZRAP1301/product-reviews/B000W8OVAU/ref=3Dcm_cr_pr_viewpnt_sr_1?
> ie=3DUTF8&showViewpoints=3D0&filterBy=3DaddOneStar>
>
> --
> Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
Yeah. And I would also say Whhooooooaa there pardner!. The newer
1300/1301 Ryobi's are not even a shadow of the old 10" machine you
originally posted. As mentioned in my earlier post I just passed my
old 12-1/2" Ryobi on to our son. My old machine was a close cousin to
the 10" Ryobi at least in weight and quality - IOW - built like a
tank. I have seen the new ones in HD and they are cheaply made
stuff. "Stuff" is better than what I was thinking. Ryobi's overall
quality and reputation have slid during the past 10-15 years on most
stuff except maybe their battery operated drills. In fact I don't
even believe that all of the new planers have infeed/outfeed tables.
I said earlier that the 10" 'er was probably priced too high. But I
would go with it before this one. As the reviews Larry posted shows
there were three opinions. Stinks, Middle Top. What do you conclude
from that? At least one guy wanted to justify his purchase. The
other too were not that happy :^&}
BTW, my neighbor has owned one of the Rigid 3-knifers for a while, and
he uses it a fair amount. Loves it. The reason I mention it is it
showed up at the bottom of the Amazon page Larry linked.
RonB
Kimosabe wrote:
> I think I remember seeing a Ryobi bench top model at Home Depot today
> for about $239.
>
> The DeWalt was $399.
Ryobi $180 at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000W8OVAU/ref=asc_df_B000W8OVAU1324242?smid=A219HML0CVO0HP&tag=dealtmp4800-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B000W8OVAU
On Nov 14, 11:35=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> lzoto wrote:
> > I have come across a new in the box planer from 1985 that has never
> > been opened. =A0I am wondering if not having been run all these years
> > could be an issue. =A0Any other info on the planer would be helpful.
>
> If everything moves freely by hand, you should be okay.
>
> Then, give it the old "smoke test" - turn it on and see if it smokes.
>
> I just picked up a used one - it's my first and it works swell. The first
> time you use it, do so in the driveway. The think makes an unbelievable
> amount of shavings. Incredible. Absolutely amazing. So much so that one o=
f
> my cats who was watching the experiement, ambled off shaking his head.
>
> You can get an aftermarket shaving collector into which you can plug your
> dust collector with really good results.
Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
inexpensive and small.
In article <[email protected]=
m>, [email protected] says...
> > >He emailed me and he has a Grizzly 6" jointer, never used and in the
> > >box from the same error. =A0I am waiting for a price on that one.
> >
> > I'm starting to get a baaaaad feeling from this...
> >
> > --
> > To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- J. K. Rowling
>=20
> Why? I figured some elderly relative left him stuff.
>=20
Or he figures he has a live one and he's just upped the ante to keep you=20
on the hook.=20
Allowing that Larry is correct, there are a number of possibilities that=20
come to mind and all of them are ...........unpleasant.
"lzoto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Nov 14, 11:35 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> lzoto wrote:
> > I have come across a new in the box planer from 1985 that has never
> > been opened. I am wondering if not having been run all these years
> > could be an issue. Any other info on the planer would be helpful.
>
> If everything moves freely by hand, you should be okay.
>
> Then, give it the old "smoke test" - turn it on and see if it smokes.
>
> I just picked up a used one - it's my first and it works swell. The first
> time you use it, do so in the driveway. The think makes an unbelievable
> amount of shavings. Incredible. Absolutely amazing. So much so that one of
> my cats who was watching the experiement, ambled off shaking his head.
>
> You can get an aftermarket shaving collector into which you can plug your
> dust collector with really good results.
Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
inexpensive and small.
FWIW I, 22 years ago I paid $289. I would not pay more than $50-$75 for it.
There are way too many alternatives on the market today, for a little bit
more money they will come with a warranty and many more features.
"lzoto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Nov 15, 1:32 pm, Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:28:56 -0800, lzoto wrote:
> > Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
> > that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
> > decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
> > inexpensive and small.
>
> That seems high to me. I think $100 would be a fair price. Yes, it's
> "new", but the newer planers are wider, snipe less, have better dust
> collection, more power, etc..
>
> That said, I've got one I bought in the '80s and it's still running. So
> it is a good quality tool. I've heard the current Ryobi tools aren't
> what they used to be.
>
> I recently bought a small thickness planer and now use it for the final
> 32nd of an inch or so - the AP10, like any planer, will cause a little
> tearout on some woods and the sanding gets rid of that.
>
> --
> Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
I thought it should be $100 or less, but I have to say that I am
attracted to it's age. Despite the bells and whistles you get with
newer products, the quality of the individual parts, including the
grade of steel they used back then, were far superior.
Well, when the smoke clears it is still a Ryobi, one of their best products
as far as I am convcerned but the age attraction is not necessirily a good
thing if you can no longer get parts for it. The rubber cutter head drive
belt might be in a bit dry after 25 years and you may not be able to find a
replacement. It was well build however, it had a point to prove.
"lzoto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have come across a new in the box planer from 1985 that has never
> been opened. I am wondering if not having been run all these years
> could be an issue. Any other info on the planer would be helpful.
I bought one in 1988 and finally sold it in a garage sale earlier this year.
I stepped up to a 15" stationary unit.
You have IIRC the "Original" bench top planer. It is almost bullet proof.
It does have certain problems that were common back then and with less
expensive planers today. Snipe can be an issue and it is limited to 10". I
would think that if you can rotate the cutter head by hand it will run just
fine.
On Nov 15, 4:31=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "lzoto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:662578f3-4d07-422e-ac3e-ca2a4a6ccdbf@y31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 15, 1:32 pm, Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:28:56 -0800, lzoto wrote:
> > > Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
> > > that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
> > > decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
> > > inexpensive and small.
>
> > That seems high to me. I think $100 would be a fair price. Yes, it's
> > "new", but the newer planers are wider, snipe less, have better dust
> > collection, more power, etc..
>
> > That said, I've got one I bought in the '80s and it's still running. So
> > it is a good quality tool. I've heard the current Ryobi tools aren't
> > what they used to be.
>
> > I recently bought a small thickness planer and now use it for the final
> > 32nd of an inch or so - the AP10, like any planer, will cause a little
> > tearout on some woods and the sanding gets rid of that.
>
> > --
> > Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
>
> I thought it should be $100 or less, but I have to say that I am
> attracted to it's age. =A0Despite the bells and whistles you get with
> newer products, the quality of the individual parts, including the
> grade of steel they used back then, were far superior.
>
> Well, when the smoke clears it is still a Ryobi, one of their best produc=
ts
> as far as I am convcerned but the age attraction is not necessirily a goo=
d
> thing if you can no longer get parts for it. =A0The rubber cutter head dr=
ive
> belt might be in a bit dry after 25 years and you may not be able to find=
a
> replacement. =A0It was well build however, it had a point to prove.
Good point and also check the availability of knives. I am fairly
sure you can get parts for it from eReplacementParts.com. I also
know of a source in Wichita, KS that will sell Ryobi parts at a very
reasonable price; and they don't inflate their shipping and handling.
But their knives are also high (below).
During the past few years Ryobi has been slipping and their customer
support has gotten worse. When I bought my 12-1/4" machine knives
were about $15-18. A few years later they dropped them as a spare
part and aftermarkets were selling in the $60-90 range. That, plus
the age of the machine, was presenting me with a keep or buy
decision. Luckily, for me, Delta sells a set of knives for their
12-1/2" machine that fit fine.
RonB
On Nov 15, 7:39=A0am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "lzoto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:76c8d44b-e77c-4bdb-8cdf-8c1a68fb3c24@f16g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 14, 11:35 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > lzoto wrote:
> > > I have come across a new in the box planer from 1985 that has never
> > > been opened. I am wondering if not having been run all these years
> > > could be an issue. Any other info on the planer would be helpful.
>
> > If everything moves freely by hand, you should be okay.
>
> > Then, give it the old "smoke test" - turn it on and see if it smokes.
>
> > I just picked up a used one - it's my first and it works swell. The fir=
st
> > time you use it, do so in the driveway. The think makes an unbelievable
> > amount of shavings. Incredible. Absolutely amazing. So much so that one=
of
> > my cats who was watching the experiement, ambled off shaking his head.
>
> > You can get an aftermarket shaving collector into which you can plug yo=
ur
> > dust collector with really good results.
>
> Thank you for your input. =A0He wants $200 for it which seems high for
> that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
> decent. =A0It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
> inexpensive and small.
>
> FWIW I, 22 years ago I paid $289. =A0I would not pay more than $50-$75 fo=
r it.
> There are way too many alternatives on the market today, for a little bit
> more money they will come with a warranty and many more features.
IIRC, Home Depot recently had the DeWalt DW735 on sale for something
like $275.
Better deals are out there. I agree: for less than $100 ... I might
get the Ryobi ... but at $200 ??
I'd be doing that cat-shaking-head-while-walking-away thing.
On Nov 15, 5:31=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "lzoto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:28:56 -0800, lzoto wrote:
> > > Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
> > > that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
> > > decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
> > > inexpensive and small.
>
He emailed me and he has a Grizzly 6" jointer, never used and in the
box from the same error. I am waiting for a price on that one.
On Nov 14, 7:58=A0pm, lzoto <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have come across a new in the box planer from 1985 that has never
> been opened. =A0I am wondering if not having been run all these years
> could be an issue. =A0Any other info on the planer would be helpful.
That is a pretty good machine, almost legendary. I owned its younger
cousin the 12-1/4" machine for about 13-15 years and just passed it on
to our son after I bought a heavier duty 15" planer.
But..... $200 seems high even if it is "new". Are you certain it is
new and not just cleaned up and in the box again. If truly new, and
you don't think you will want to plane wider stock it might be ok in
the $150-200 range but there are a lot of wider planers out there now.
RonB
lzoto wrote:
> I have come across a new in the box planer from 1985 that has never
> been opened. I am wondering if not having been run all these years
> could be an issue. Any other info on the planer would be helpful.
If everything moves freely by hand, you should be okay.
Then, give it the old "smoke test" - turn it on and see if it smokes.
I just picked up a used one - it's my first and it works swell. The first
time you use it, do so in the driveway. The think makes an unbelievable
amount of shavings. Incredible. Absolutely amazing. So much so that one of
my cats who was watching the experiement, ambled off shaking his head.
You can get an aftermarket shaving collector into which you can plug your
dust collector with really good results.
On Nov 18, 7:58=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Kimosabe wrote:
> > I think I remember seeing a Ryobi bench top model at Home Depot today
> > for about $239.
>
> > The DeWalt was $399.
>
> Ryobi $180 at Amazon:http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000W8OVAU/ref=3Dasc_df_B00=
0W8OVAU1324242?smid...
Cheaper and wider! I really appreciate all the input.
On Nov 16, 8:15=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:14:09 -0800 (PST), lzoto <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Nov 15, 5:31 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "lzoto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >> > On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:28:56 -0800, lzoto wrote:
> >> > > Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high fo=
r
> >> > > that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read w=
ere
> >> > > decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
> >> > > inexpensive and small.
>
> >He emailed me and he has a Grizzly 6" jointer, never used and in the
> >box from the same error. =A0I am waiting for a price on that one.
>
> I'm starting to get a baaaaad feeling from this...
>
> --
> To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- J. K. Rowling
Why? I figured some elderly relative left him stuff.
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:14:09 -0800 (PST), lzoto <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Nov 15, 5:31 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "lzoto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> > On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:28:56 -0800, lzoto wrote:
>> > > Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
>> > > that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
>> > > decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
>> > > inexpensive and small.
>>
>He emailed me and he has a Grizzly 6" jointer, never used and in the
>box from the same error. I am waiting for a price on that one.
I'm starting to get a baaaaad feeling from this...
--
To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.
-- J. K. Rowling
On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:28:56 -0800, lzoto wrote:
> Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
> that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
> decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
> inexpensive and small.
That seems high to me. I think $100 would be a fair price. Yes, it's
"new", but the newer planers are wider, snipe less, have better dust
collection, more power, etc..
That said, I've got one I bought in the '80s and it's still running. So
it is a good quality tool. I've heard the current Ryobi tools aren't
what they used to be.
I recently bought a small thickness planer and now use it for the final
32nd of an inch or so - the AP10, like any planer, will cause a little
tearout on some woods and the sanding gets rid of that.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:02:46 -0800, lzoto wrote:
>
> Cheaper and wider! I really appreciate all the input.
Read this review before you get carried away :-).
<http://www.amazon.com/Factory-Reconditioned-Ryobi-Surface-RapidSet-
ZRAP1301/product-reviews/B000W8OVAU/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt_sr_1?
ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar>
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
lzoto wrote:
> On Nov 14, 11:35 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> lzoto wrote:
>>> I have come across a new in the box planer from 1985 that has never
>>> been opened. I am wondering if not having been run all these years
>>> could be an issue. Any other info on the planer would be helpful.
>>
>> If everything moves freely by hand, you should be okay.
>>
>> Then, give it the old "smoke test" - turn it on and see if it smokes.
>>
>> I just picked up a used one - it's my first and it works swell. The
>> first time you use it, do so in the driveway. The think makes an
>> unbelievable amount of shavings. Incredible. Absolutely amazing. So
>> much so that one of my cats who was watching the experiement, ambled
>> off shaking his head.
>>
>> You can get an aftermarket shaving collector into which you can plug
>> your dust collector with really good results.
>
> Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
> that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
> decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
> inexpensive and small.
Hmm. I got mine for $100 from a Craigslist ad. Admittedly, I had been
monitoring CL for a couple of months 'til I found this low-priced item.
In my case, patience paid off. Your needs may vary.
Puckdropper wrote:
> lzoto <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:76c8d44b-e77c-4bdb-8cdf-8c1a68fb3c24@f16g2000vbz.googlegroups.com:
>
>>
>> Thank you for your input. He wants $200 for it which seems high for
>> that planer, but it is "new" and most of the reviews I have read were
>> decent. It won't be getting heavy use, so I just need something
>> inexpensive and small.
>
> Careful... Once you see how much better consistent thickness boards
> look and assemble, you'll begin every project with the planer. Since
> I got my planer, the only thing I've put together without
> dimensioning first has been one-off jigs and things where it doesn't
> matter how thick the boards are.
>
Good idea! And a provident use for a tool that spends most of its time
waiting to be of service.