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"john d hamilton"

23/10/2008 4:14 PM

cleaver..woodwork or butchers tool ?

Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
cleaver.

Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.

Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
original purpose was likely to be? thanks.

photo on tinypic website:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4


This topic has 14 replies

SP

Sheldon

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 12:51 PM

On Oct 23, 2:09=EF=BF=BDpm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 23, 11:59 am, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > =EF=BF=BD"john d hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
> > > cleaver.
>
> > > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
>
> > > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
> > > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers =
are
> > > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite =
small.
> > > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. =EF=BF=BD anyone any i=
dea what its
> > > original purpose was likely to be? =EF=BF=BD thanks.
>
> > > photo on tinypic website:
> > >http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=3D33y5a9u&s=3D4
>
> > Looks like a kitchen cleaver to me... =EF=BF=BDThat hole in the end of =
the blade
> > is for hanging it from kitchen hooks.
>
> Actually it's for hanging on the sign over the chisels that reads
> "These are not screwdrivers."

Actually it's for hanging up your ass on a rusty nail!

Ahahahahahahahaha. . . .

SP

Sheldon

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 8:51 AM

On Oct 23, 11:14=EF=BF=BDam, "john d hamilton" <[email protected]> wrot=
e:
> Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
> cleaver.
>
> Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
>
> Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
> butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
> usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite smal=
l.
> it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. =EF=BF=BD anyone any idea =
what its
> original purpose was likely to be? =EF=BF=BD thanks.
>
> photo on tinypic website:http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=3D33y5a9u&s=3D4

Obviously a butcher's cleaver. Butcher's cleavers are available in
many sizes and configurations... no law says that tool can't be used
for splitting wood stove kindling but so can any cleaver and many
other tools... could just as easily split kindling with a big old
kraut chef's knife.

http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=3Dcl=
eaver&osCsid=3Dundefined&imageField.x=3D8&imageField.y=3D9

Nn

Nancy2

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 8:28 AM

On Oct 23, 10:14=A0am, "john d hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
> cleaver.
>
> Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
>
> Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
> butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
> usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite smal=
l.
> it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. =A0 anyone any idea what i=
ts
> original purpose was likely to be? =A0 thanks.
>
> photo on tinypic website:http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=3D33y5a9u&s=3D4

Looks like a cleaver to me. It would be very useful for chopping up a
chicken, for instance, or ribs or something - much bigger, and it
would be pretty heavy, no?

I can't think of anything it could do as a woodworking tool that a
better, smaller tool couldn't do better.

N.

RR

"Rusty"

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 11:08 AM

It's a prop for the movie Halloween.

Rusty

"notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2008-10-23, john d hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
>> original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
>
> My vote is meat cleaver.
>
> nb

L

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 11:09 AM

On Oct 23, 11:59 am, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "john d hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
> > cleaver.
>
> > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
>
> > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
> > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
> > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
> > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
> > original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
>
> > photo on tinypic website:
> >http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4
>
> Looks like a kitchen cleaver to me... That hole in the end of the blade
> is for hanging it from kitchen hooks.

Actually it's for hanging on the sign over the chisels that reads
"These are not screwdrivers."





St

"SteveB"

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 6:20 PM


"john d hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
> cleaver.
>
> Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
>
> Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
> butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
> usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite
> small. it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea
> what its original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
>
> photo on tinypic website:
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4

My vote goes to cleaver. Cleavers can be small, too. I have a very small
knife that looks like a cleaver. It can be used as a knife or cleaver, but
I hesitate to start smacking stuff with it, as it is so sharp. This one I
have is some off beat name, but had one in another marriage that was Joyce
Chen, IIRC. They are fantastically sharp, and useful as heck, almost the
one you'd take if you could only have one knife in the house. I really like
mine.

Steve

Er

"Elly"

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 8:21 PM


"Rusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's a prop for the movie Halloween.
>
> Rusty
>
> "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 2008-10-23, john d hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what
>>> its
>>> original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
>>
>> My vote is meat cleaver.
>>
>> nb
>
>
My mother had exactly the same cleaver. She used it to chop spinach.
It came with a wooden board that was oddly shaped, being higher on
one side than the other, with a ridge only on one side to hold the spinach.
This was in The Netherlands just after WWII. I don't know how long
she had it. Could have been pretty old. She was born in the year 1900.

Elly

Oo

Omelet

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 10:59 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
"john d hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
> cleaver.
>
> Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
>
> Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
> butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
> usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
> it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
> original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
>
> photo on tinypic website:
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4

Looks like a kitchen cleaver to me... That hole in the end of the blade
is for hanging it from kitchen hooks.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Oo

Omelet

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

25/10/2008 10:10 AM

In article
<ea2af781-242f-4b25-b5cf-1ff13866fe89@d70g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
[email protected] wrote:

> On Oct 23, 11:59 am, Omelet <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "john d hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
> > > cleaver.
> >
> > > Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
> >
> > > Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
> > > butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
> > > usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite
> > > small.
> > > it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
> > > original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
> >
> > > photo on tinypic website:
> > >http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4
> >
> > Looks like a kitchen cleaver to me... That hole in the end of the blade
> > is for hanging it from kitchen hooks.
>
> Actually it's for hanging on the sign over the chisels that reads
> "These are not screwdrivers."

<lol>

Been there, done that.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Oo

Omelet

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

25/10/2008 10:11 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > Actually it's for hanging on the sign over the chisels that reads
> > "These are not screwdrivers."
>
> Is that next to the sign over the screwdrivers that reads:
>
> "These are not pry bars"
>
> ?
> BugBear

<LOL>!!!
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

bb

bugbear

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

24/10/2008 2:06 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> Actually it's for hanging on the sign over the chisels that reads
> "These are not screwdrivers."

Is that next to the sign over the screwdrivers that reads:

"These are not pry bars"

?
BugBear

bb

bugbear

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

24/10/2008 2:04 PM

john d hamilton wrote:
> Helping to clear out an old garden shed in London u.k., we found this
> cleaver.
>
> Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.
>
> Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others think its a
> butchers cleaver, although some think not, because butchers cleavers are
> usually much bigger and you can see from the photo it's really quite small.
> it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
> original purpose was likely to be? thanks.
>
> photo on tinypic website:
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33y5a9u&s=4

At the risk of mixing adjectives, I'd say it's a
domestic butcher's cleaver, i.e. a domestic
tool used for the same purposes as a butcher's
cleaver, but on a smaller scale.

It's certainly not a woodworking tool
(a field in which I have some knowledge).

BugBear

nn

notbob

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 4:14 PM

On 2008-10-23, john d hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:

> it also has the number 6 stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its
> original purpose was likely to be? thanks.

My vote is meat cleaver.

nb

JS

"James Silverton"

in reply to "john d hamilton" on 23/10/2008 4:14 PM

23/10/2008 3:28 PM

john wrote on Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:14:30 +0100:

> Its pretty ancient probably from about 1910 or so.

> Some think it's a woodworking tool or similar, and others
> think its a butchers cleaver, although some think not, because
> butchers cleavers are usually much bigger and you can see from
> the photo it's really quite small. it also has the number 6
> stamped on the blade. anyone any idea what its original
> purpose was likely to be? thanks.

Looks like a butcher's tool but do a Google search on

adze cleaver

and you will find that they are sometimes synonyms for a woodworking
tool rather like a broad bladed axe. (I could almost imagine a medieval
executioner using one.)

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


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