My SWMBO has decided we are moving into a new home (New construction) with a
very large walkout basement that's MINE- ALL MINE (almost....)
Here's the question: I'm fairly well equipped, tablesaw, drill press, bandsaw,
planer, lathe, and more benchtop tools the she really needs to know about.
What are your thoughts or experiences on relocationg my shop ?
Distance is about an hour away, so it's not unreasonable to consider moving it
myself (odds are we may need to go the storage route for a few months). I
think I'll call the local high school football coach and see if he has any
linemen that need a good workout and a few bucks. Is this the way I want to do
it, or am just over estimating how bad a professional moving company is going
to ding me if I let them do it? I am hiring the pros for the rest of the
house.
All input greatly appreciated.
Bill C in NJ ( Soon to be PA)
We moved just a year ago May and we had pro movers do all the moving
including machinery. We did all the boxing and packing and wrapping of
stuff ourselves. That saves you a bunch of money. We were only moving 15
minutes away but the total for a 1100 sq/ft home and a 400 sq/ft shop was
around $700. Worth every penny. Nothing broken.
One suggestion if you have any concerns is to buy the optional insurance.
Otherwise their standard coverage will only be based on weight carried and
it is not much. I took my chances and did not buy it, and lady luck smiled
on us. YMMV
You can see the old and new shops on my site to get an idea of the equipment
moved.
--
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop
"Bill671" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My SWMBO has decided we are moving into a new home (New construction) with
a
> very large walkout basement that's MINE- ALL MINE (almost....)
>
> Here's the question: I'm fairly well equipped, tablesaw, drill press,
bandsaw,
> planer, lathe, and more benchtop tools the she really needs to know about.
> What are your thoughts or experiences on relocationg my shop ?
>
> Distance is about an hour away, so it's not unreasonable to consider
moving it
> myself (odds are we may need to go the storage route for a few months). I
> think I'll call the local high school football coach and see if he has any
> linemen that need a good workout and a few bucks. Is this the way I want
to do
> it, or am just over estimating how bad a professional moving company is
going
> to ding me if I let them do it? I am hiring the pros for the rest of the
> house.
>
> All input greatly appreciated.
>
> Bill C in NJ ( Soon to be PA)
Not quite sure what you mean by "did the same" since you moved yourself.
You rented a truck and it cost $700?
Paying pro's to do the heavy lifting is not for everyone. As I get older I
am less interested in mucking fridges around, and as I get older my friends
seem to be getting older too. It's a very personal decision. One thing I
did not mention before is that we moved our 3 computer systems, televisions,
and clothing ourselves. The electronics because I was concerned about
handling, and clothing because it is not worth boxing that stuff for a short
trip.
Interesting thing about the moving company estimator. He came out with a
hand held, sort of a pocket PC kind of thing. Walked around looking at what
must be moved, and checking off on a list on the PC what was included. I
was surprised to see that he was pre-programmed with table saws, radial arm
saws, bandsaw, jointer, just about all my woodworking equipment was
pre-programmed with cubic foot and weight. The only thing I recall he did
not have was a shop built router table/cabinet. I think his estimate for
the tablesaw was 200#, and I had a Unisaw. For a roll-around tool chest he
was way too low too, don't recall how low just now. But I had packed the
drawers tight with all the heavy stuff I could fit in there. The movers did
not enjoy rolling those chests up the ramp. Those things went in my favor.
Generally you pay by a rate per hundred pounds, but it is all just
estimated, plus an hourly estimate.
--
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop
"Rudy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> We did the same but put it all in an 18' Ryder truck and moved ourselves
> 1500 miles for the same $ 700.00
>
> Getting the unisaw and the 800 lb Honda M/C tucked in there was a chore
> tho..How much DOES a Unisaw weigh anyway ?
>
> R
>
>
IMHO Use the movers!
#1 you or your SWMBO could get hurt since you dont pick up heavy things and
move them in and out of trucks everyday.
Save yourself for all that good woodworking.
#2 Liability problem with the school kids.
#3 Worth every penny. I moved and was intending on moving most of the tools
by myself. When I saw how easy and efficient they loaded up the house I said
dont forget about the shop! 30-45 mins later the whole shop was in their
truck.
#4 Prepare yourself for something to get busted up, scratched, dinged, or
just plain broken, it happens. No big deal.
#5 Dont forget they also unload it for you too! Plan on where its going if
possible.
Rich
"Bill671" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My SWMBO has decided we are moving into a new home (New construction) with
a
> very large walkout basement that's MINE- ALL MINE (almost....)
>
> Here's the question: I'm fairly well equipped, tablesaw, drill press,
bandsaw,
> planer, lathe, and more benchtop tools the she really needs to know about.
> What are your thoughts or experiences on relocationg my shop ?
>
> Distance is about an hour away, so it's not unreasonable to consider
moving it
> myself (odds are we may need to go the storage route for a few months). I
> think I'll call the local high school football coach and see if he has any
> linemen that need a good workout and a few bucks. Is this the way I want
to do
> it, or am just over estimating how bad a professional moving company is
going
> to ding me if I let them do it? I am hiring the pros for the rest of the
> house.
>
> All input greatly appreciated.
>
> Bill C in NJ ( Soon to be PA)
>
What? Compromise their amateur status?
Pros have some strange ideas about packing and handling. A half-dozen pro
moves as a GI were not as easy on tools as the ones where my crew and
friends put everything in several pickups/vans and hauled. Be sure to have
a bunch of wedging material to keep motors, grunions, other moveable parts
from flopping. And be there to tell them where they may lift without damage
or maladjustment.
"Bill671" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What are your thoughts or experiences on relocationg my shop ?
>
> Distance is about an hour away, so it's not unreasonable to consider
moving it
> myself (odds are we may need to go the storage route for a few months). I
> think I'll call the local high school football coach and see if he has any
> linemen that need a good workout and a few bucks. Is this the way I want
to do
> it, or am just over estimating how bad a professional moving company is
going
> to ding me if I let them do it? I am hiring the pros for the rest of the
> house.
I moved my fully equipped shop 3 times in 6 years (job relo) -
Northern NJ to Phila, Phila to Charlotte, and Charlotte back to NJ -
and each time I had professional movers the company paid for. Each
move was different. Just because they were "professional" does not
mean they know how to move unisaws, planers, jointers and the like.
Nor pack them properly in the truck. The first time I left it to the
"pros" and got broken and dented machines (insurance paid for the
repairs, however). The next two times I took charge and made sure
they did it my way. My suggestions: if you can take off the cast
iron wings of the Tablesaw, do so, as it's lighter for them to carry
and less likely to get damaged. Remove all fences, pack them
separately. I actually disassembled my lathe and packed it up in
boxes, as that was damaged the first go-round. Dust collector too,
its too tall to pack properly. Jointers are a problem as they always
want to lift them by the ends of the infeed and outfeed tables, and
you have to ride herd on them not to do that. So, take the time and
prepare with partial disassembly if you have the time.
For some unknown reason (likely too lazy to bring them out of the
cellar and throw them out) I saved the origninal boxes for the miter
saw and grinders, so if you have them, use them. Pack up all your
handheld power and hand tools yourself, as the "pros" subcontract out
"help" that in some cases might just finished doing 7 to 10 at Rahway
and things 'tend' to disappear (I lost 75 CD's, all my country music)
and tools are expensive. I did all of the above for the last two
moves and everything turned out fine. Just be there on move out and
move in days, assert yourself, and if you have mobile bases, have them
packed last so they can be put in place for them to put the machines
in them. They'll appreciate that when moving them thru the cellar,
and if they have plywood sheets (most do) they can roll the stuff to
the truck. Good luck.
Mutt.
[email protected] (Bill671) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> My SWMBO has decided we are moving into a new home (New construction) with a
> very large walkout basement that's MINE- ALL MINE (almost....)
>
> Here's the question: I'm fairly well equipped, tablesaw, drill press, bandsaw,
> planer, lathe, and more benchtop tools the she really needs to know about.
> What are your thoughts or experiences on relocationg my shop ?
>
> Distance is about an hour away, so it's not unreasonable to consider moving it
> myself (odds are we may need to go the storage route for a few months). I
> think I'll call the local high school football coach and see if he has any
> linemen that need a good workout and a few bucks. Is this the way I want to do
> it, or am just over estimating how bad a professional moving company is going
> to ding me if I let them do it? I am hiring the pros for the rest of the
> house.
>
> All input greatly appreciated.
>
> Bill C in NJ ( Soon to be PA)
Many areas have movers that provide local moving services for a very nice
rate. a few years ago a local company provided a truck and three movers
that loaded my house full of furniture and pre-packed boxes and unloaded
into temporary storage for less than $300. Since we had a house under
construction, we had to use them again for the move from storage to the home
and again it cost about $250. Obviously, we could have saved the second
cost if our house was ready. They were bonded, insured and very efficient.
My daughter's family used the same service for a long-distance move. The
company provided two movers that loaded their large rental truck. Again a
full house of furniture including SERIOUS weight lifting equipment. Cost
about $400. (They got help on the other end for unload.)
"Rudy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bMsGc.33447$WB5.32892@pd7tw2no...
>
> > Not quite sure what you mean by "did the same" since you moved yourself.
> Moved for $ 700 with a lot of tools, but DIY style.
>
> > You rented a truck and it cost $700?
> Yes, it costs $ 700 to rent a one way truck for a 1500 mile trip to
another
> country (Canada)
>
> > Paying pro's to do the heavy lifting is not for everyone. As I get
older
> I
> > am less interested in mucking fridges around, and as I get older my
> friends
> > seem to be getting older too. It's a very personal decision.
>
> True, I hope to never have to do it again. I called for estimates and
the
> CHEAPEST was a trucking company (AMF? or something like that) Their idea
is
> to drop off a semi trailer unit in your driveway and YOU fill it up (pay
by
> the lineal foot used). They deliver about a week later..You unload.. and
> for that, they wanted over $ 1100 USD which at the time was about $1400
CDN.
> I figured the Ryder @ 700 was a bargain.
>
> R
>
>
> We did all the boxing and packing and wrapping of
> stuff ourselves. That saves you a bunch of money. We were only moving 15
> minutes away but the total for a 1100 sq/ft home and a 400 sq/ft shop was
> around $700. Worth every penny. Nothing broken.
We did the same but put it all in an 18' Ryder truck and moved ourselves
1500 miles for the same $ 700.00
Getting the unisaw and the 800 lb Honda M/C tucked in there was a chore
tho..How much DOES a Unisaw weigh anyway ?
R
> Not quite sure what you mean by "did the same" since you moved yourself.
Moved for $ 700 with a lot of tools, but DIY style.
> You rented a truck and it cost $700?
Yes, it costs $ 700 to rent a one way truck for a 1500 mile trip to another
country (Canada)
> Paying pro's to do the heavy lifting is not for everyone. As I get older
I
> am less interested in mucking fridges around, and as I get older my
friends
> seem to be getting older too. It's a very personal decision.
True, I hope to never have to do it again. I called for estimates and the
CHEAPEST was a trucking company (AMF? or something like that) Their idea is
to drop off a semi trailer unit in your driveway and YOU fill it up (pay by
the lineal foot used). They deliver about a week later..You unload.. and
for that, they wanted over $ 1100 USD which at the time was about $1400 CDN.
I figured the Ryder @ 700 was a bargain.
R
Rudy responds:
>> You rented a truck and it cost $700?
>Yes, it costs $ 700 to rent a one way truck for a 1500 mile trip to another
>country (Canada)
>
>> Paying pro's to do the heavy lifting is not for everyone. As I get older
>I
>> am less interested in mucking fridges around, and as I get older my
>friends
>> seem to be getting older too. It's a very personal decision.
>
>True, I hope to never have to do it again. I called for estimates and the
>CHEAPEST was a trucking company (AMF? or something like that) Their idea is
>to drop off a semi trailer unit in your driveway and YOU fill it up (pay by
>the lineal foot used). They deliver about a week later..You unload.. and
>for that, they wanted over $ 1100 USD which at the time was about $1400 CDN.
>I figured the Ryder @ 700 was a bargain.
Truck rental prices have gone done a little in the past 3 decades. We paid just
under $350 for a Budget rental 15' about 2 weeks ago. For a larger truck about
28 years ag (24' sticks in my mind, but those don't seem to be available any
more: it's a short one or a long one, 15' and 28'), I paid about $725.
And you're right: our friends age at the same rate we do, so bad backs, messed
up tickers and large bellies are often shared features of life. We hired help
at both ends so my wife and I didn't end up moving furniture we no longer care
to handle--refrigerator, washing machine, dressers, sofa, similar large,
weighty objects. We also used my pick-up (tiny S10) to haul down several loads
of toys for the shop over the preceding weeks, and made 3 trips with rental
cargo vans (prices all over the lot and not generally available for one-way
rentals) to finish out the shop items and to bring down a love seat and a short
list of other items.
I fully expect to stay right where I am until I die. It is NOT worth the
experience of moving again to see another town.
Charlie Self
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or
not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." Ernest Benn
On 03 Jul 2004 16:05:58 GMT, [email protected] (Bill671) wrote:
>My SWMBO has decided we are moving into a new home (New construction) with a
>very large walkout basement that's MINE- ALL MINE (almost....)
>
>Here's the question: I'm fairly well equipped, tablesaw, drill press, bandsaw,
>planer, lathe, and more benchtop tools the she really needs to know about.
>What are your thoughts or experiences on relocationg my shop ?
>
>Distance is about an hour away, so it's not unreasonable to consider moving it
>myself (odds are we may need to go the storage route for a few months). I
>think I'll call the local high school football coach and see if he has any
>linemen that need a good workout and a few bucks. Is this the way I want to do
>it, or am just over estimating how bad a professional moving company is going
>to ding me if I let them do it? I am hiring the pros for the rest of the
>house.
>
>All input greatly appreciated.
>
>Bill C in NJ ( Soon to be PA)
the distance makes less difference than you might think- mostly time.
the moving co. will have the right equipment and the right insurance.
if your shop is anything like mine it's worth more than most of your
furniture.
call around a bit. machinery movers can vary a lot in price.