Under Mount Drawer Slides - Help

Thanks Dadioh & Karl. The pics help a lot. I was thinking it was to be more complicated, than it appears.

Sonny

On 1/31/2015 7:51 PM, Sonny wrote:
> I need to know what kind of inner cabinet (carcass) framing support, I need, for installing under mount drawer slides. I think I can make a reasonably standard drawer, with these uneven boards, but I'm not sure how the slides would be mounted/supported, on the interior of the carcass.

Basically, nothing more than what would be done for any other side
mounted drawer slides is necessary.

The devil's details are in the drawer dimensions, not mounting the
cabinet side of the drawer slide.

For those details, look to the installation guide of the slide manufacturer.

The only tricky part, other than the required width and height
dimensions for the drawer, is correctly aligning the two 1/4" holes for
the clips in the back of the drawer that you see here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJigsFixturesMethods?noredirect=1#6110895347676531138

... and there is jig sold by the manufacturer for that.

Or, you can do what I did before I purchased the jig: hold a slide on
the side of the drawer in the proper position; put sufficient pressure
against the tab that goes into the hole to make an impression in the
drawer back; then use the impression as a marker for where to drill the
hole.

Here's a photo of an undermout drawer with the slides mounted and ready
for transport to the site:

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJigsFixturesMethods?noredirect=1#5684918954222971858

As you can see, they attach to the cabinet as any normal side mounted
drawer slide would.

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On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 9:23:17 AM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:

> Here's a photo of an undermout drawer with the slides mounted and ready
> for transport to the site:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJigsFixturesMethods?noredirect=1#5684918954222971858
>
> As you can see, they attach to the cabinet as any normal side mounted
> drawer slide would.

Karl,

In another thread - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rec.woodworking/nCFQfjv75GM - ....

You inform DerbyDad that he will loose some drawer height. My drawers will be kind of shallow, already. *I should have planned better, but I'm winging it, as I build.

Anyway, would you say I will loose about 1/2" of drawer height? If so, I may need side mount slides.

Sonny

On 2/8/2015 9:04 AM, Sonny wrote:

> Karl,
>
> In another thread - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rec.woodworking/nCFQfjv75GM - ....
>
> You inform DerbyDad that he will loose some drawer height. My drawers will be kind of shallow, already. *I should have planned better, but I'm winging it, as I build.
>
> Anyway, would you say I will loose about 1/2" of drawer height? If so, I may need side mount slides.
>
> Sonny


Best thing to do is to find, and buy, the under mount slides you want
and use/download the installation instructions, which should give you
the bottom clearance necessary.

That said, for most of the under mount slides you have a minimum
clearance required of 1/8" between the TOP of the drawer box and the TOP
of that cabinet drawer opening; and 1/2" between the BOTTOM of the
drawer box and BOTTOM of that cabinet drawer opening.

IOW, measure the particular cabinet drawer rough opening HEIGHT and
subtract 5/8" ... but that is cutting it close, and might not work will
all brands.

(I usually subtract 3/4")

As always, buy the slides FIRST, then built the drawers to the specs for
that particular slide, otherwise you court disaster.

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"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I've never installed under mount drawer slides. I'm building a
> "rustic"
> gun cabinet (for the camp) with (salvaged) hand hewn boards, so none of
> the faces are straight. I did plane the edges, for making glued up
> panels.
>
> I need to know what kind of inner cabinet (carcass) framing support, I
> need, for installing under mount drawer slides. I think I can make a
> reasonably standard drawer, with these uneven boards, but I'm not sure
> how the slides would be mounted/supported, on the interior of the
> carcass.
>
> Does anyone have a pic of the interior support "system" of a cabinet for
> undermount slides? .... so I can get some idea of an appropriate support
> system.
>
> I haven't found a pic, online, of the interior of a carcass, but I may
> not know what I am suppose to be, specifically, looking for.... in other
> words, I'm confused with online pics.
>
> Do you need pics of my cabinet, before recommending/suggesting anything,
> to know what I'm trying to describe? The cabinet is not assembled,
> yet,
> but I think I can do a reasonable dry fit, for you get a better idea of
> what I'm working with..... what I might best need to construct. Does
> this make sense?
>
> I should be ready to assemble the carcass in a few days, and I need to
> construct this support/inner-framing, as/before I complete the carcass
> assembly.
>
> I haven't shopped for slides, yet, and I suppose I need to decide what
> slides to use, before considering/building their support system. The
> lower cabinet will have a large/long bottom drawer (I assume 3 slides
> for
> a 45"W X 5"H X 20"D) and above this drawer will be two smaller drawers
> (two slides each, 20"W X 5"H X 20"D). The smaller drawers might require
> a load of 6-8 boxes of shotgun shells (30 lbs?) each, and the larger
> drawer might require a load of 100lbs(?, probably an over estimation).
>
> More so than normal load, I suspect the drawers and slides would suffer
> more from the rough (often time, inconsiderate) handling/usage, by my
> nephews, the older kids, guests, and other drunk fools that, sometimes,
> come around, so whatever slide support, I need, may need to be beefier
> than normal.

Here's a link to a pdf from KV that has a diagram showing it pretty well.

http://knapevogtwp.kv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/CAB_Catalog/CAB-31-MuV34.pdf

Basically the cabinet member is an "L" with a small truss one leg to
another. Vertical leg fastened to cabinet side but the lower leg rests on
cabinet bottom. Note that the drawer back needs a notch (if the back is
not "old school; i.e.,on top of the bottom).

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