Kk

"Ken"

08/07/2006 7:32 PM

Cutting simple curve by hand

I'm working on my first workbench.
Actually, my first anything.

I'm working on the trestle base and trying to do the
curve on the base of the legs.
What are the proper/best tools to use to cut the curve by HAND.

I start with hand saws to get close to the curve line.
Then use a block plane and shoulder plane to get
most of the wood out. I then use a 49 rasp to get the
rest of the wood down to the curve line.

The wood in the base is 3x3 SYP.
The curve radius is a tad less than 3 inches.
What hand tools would you use to do this job?


This topic has 9 replies

JP

"Jay Pique"

in reply to "Ken" on 08/07/2006 7:32 PM

08/07/2006 6:28 PM


Ken wrote:
> The wood in the base is 3x3 SYP.
> The curve radius is a tad less than 3 inches.
> What hand tools would you use to do this job?

Sounds like you've pretty much handled it how I would. Saw to the
line, clean it up with whatever you've got. What you could do is mark
the curve (with a knife) on each side, then chisel it square a half
inch deep or so, hog of the bulk between the cuts and then you'd have a
reference on each side to work down towards with your other hand tools.

JP
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"bf"

in reply to "Ken" on 08/07/2006 7:32 PM

10/07/2006 9:38 AM


Ken wrote:
> I'm working on the trestle base and trying to do the
> curve on the base of the legs.
> What are the proper/best tools to use to cut the curve by HAND.
>
> I start with hand saws to get close to the curve line.
> Then use a block plane and shoulder plane to get
> most of the wood out. I then use a 49 rasp to get the
> rest of the wood down to the curve line.
>

I really think you'd be better off using a jigsaw or bandsaw to make
the first rough cut close to the line.
There's plenty of sanding and filing you could do by hand after that
first cut.
After all, you do hold the jigsaw in your HAND. LOL.

If it's just a workbench, don't stress out over trying to make it a
display piece having perfect curves. I know you want your first project
to come out nice, but it's important to get that workbench up so you're
operational.

TD

"Tom Dacon"

in reply to "Ken" on 08/07/2006 7:32 PM

09/07/2006 11:37 AM

A spokeshave's a good tool for that, but out of the box they're a little
difficult to use. Among other things, they tend to chatter. The blade needs
to be *extremely* sharp. The tools themselves are usually a little rough, as
bought, and need some fettling before they cut as smoothly as you'd like.
Nevertheless, if you're willing to invest the time to shape the tool up, you
won't find a better one for cutting those concave curves.

These comments apply, at least, to the Stanley and Record-type all-metal
spokeshaves. The wooden-handled ones that Lee Valley makes have gotten some
good reviews, and Lie-Nielson makes some that look mouth-watering on their
web site.

Tom Dacon

"Ken" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As suggested, a mortise chisel helped to speed things up a bit.
> I used a backsaw to cut down to the line. Made a series of these
> cuts then used the chisel.
>
> Hadn't thought of the spokeshave and I don't own one but I do
> like tool shopping. Time to buy one and give it a try. Sounds
> like just the right tool.
>
> Thank you
> Ken
>
> "Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> A bowsaw to cut close to the line then clean it up with a
>> spokeshave would be the fastest.
>> Since I don't have a bowsaw I probably use a hatchet or adze,
>> followed by a drawknife, then the spokeshave if I had to use
>> human powered tools.
>>
>> Art
>>
>
>

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "Ken" on 08/07/2006 7:32 PM

09/07/2006 2:34 AM

Ken wrote:

> I'm working on the trestle base and trying to do the
> curve on the base of the legs.
> What are the proper/best tools to use to cut the curve by HAND.

A coping saw followed by some sandpaper wrapped around an old broom
handle and a lot of elbow grease.

Lew

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Ken" on 08/07/2006 7:32 PM

09/07/2006 3:07 AM

Using that coping saw, you should be done sometime in 2008. Stick with what
you're doing.

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ken wrote:
>
> > I'm working on the trestle base and trying to do the
> > curve on the base of the legs.
> > What are the proper/best tools to use to cut the curve by HAND.
>
> A coping saw followed by some sandpaper wrapped around an old broom
> handle and a lot of elbow grease.
>
> Lew

WB

"Wood Butcher"

in reply to "Ken" on 08/07/2006 7:32 PM

08/07/2006 10:10 PM

A bowsaw to cut close to the line then clean it up with a
spokeshave would be the fastest.
Since I don't have a bowsaw I probably use a hatchet or adze,
followed by a drawknife, then the spokeshave if I had to use
human powered tools.

Art

"Ken" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm working on my first workbench.
> Actually, my first anything.
>
> I'm working on the trestle base and trying to do the
> curve on the base of the legs.
> What are the proper/best tools to use to cut the curve by HAND.
>
> I start with hand saws to get close to the curve line.
> Then use a block plane and shoulder plane to get
> most of the wood out. I then use a 49 rasp to get the
> rest of the wood down to the curve line.
>
> The wood in the base is 3x3 SYP.
> The curve radius is a tad less than 3 inches.
> What hand tools would you use to do this job?
>
>

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Ken" on 08/07/2006 7:32 PM

17/07/2006 8:14 AM

bf wrote:

>
> Ken wrote:
>> I'm working on the trestle base and trying to do the
>> curve on the base of the legs.
>> What are the proper/best tools to use to cut the curve by HAND.
>>
>> I start with hand saws to get close to the curve line.
>> Then use a block plane and shoulder plane to get
>> most of the wood out. I then use a 49 rasp to get the
>> rest of the wood down to the curve line.
>>
>
> I really think you'd be better off using a jigsaw or bandsaw to make
> the first rough cut close to the line.
> There's plenty of sanding and filing you could do by hand after that
> first cut.
> After all, you do hold the jigsaw in your HAND. LOL.
>
> If it's just a workbench, don't stress out over trying to make it a
> display piece having perfect curves. I know you want your first project
> to come out nice, but it's important to get that workbench up so you're
> operational.

There are two schools of thought on this. One is as you suggest, the other
is to treat _every_ piece as an opportunity to practice.

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Ken" on 08/07/2006 7:32 PM

09/07/2006 8:34 PM

Avoid the record spokeshaves. I bought two a while back and neither was
usable or could be make so without replacing the cap iron.
"Tom Dacon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A spokeshave's a good tool for that, but out of the box they're a little
> difficult to use. Among other things, they tend to chatter. The blade
needs
> to be *extremely* sharp. The tools themselves are usually a little rough,
as
> bought, and need some fettling before they cut as smoothly as you'd like.
> Nevertheless, if you're willing to invest the time to shape the tool up,
you
> won't find a better one for cutting those concave curves.
>
> These comments apply, at least, to the Stanley and Record-type all-metal
> spokeshaves. The wooden-handled ones that Lee Valley makes have gotten
some
> good reviews, and Lie-Nielson makes some that look mouth-watering on their
> web site.
>
> Tom Dacon
>
> "Ken" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > As suggested, a mortise chisel helped to speed things up a bit.
> > I used a backsaw to cut down to the line. Made a series of these
> > cuts then used the chisel.
> >
> > Hadn't thought of the spokeshave and I don't own one but I do
> > like tool shopping. Time to buy one and give it a try. Sounds
> > like just the right tool.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Ken
> >
> > "Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> A bowsaw to cut close to the line then clean it up with a
> >> spokeshave would be the fastest.
> >> Since I don't have a bowsaw I probably use a hatchet or adze,
> >> followed by a drawknife, then the spokeshave if I had to use
> >> human powered tools.
> >>
> >> Art
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Kk

"Ken"

in reply to "Ken" on 08/07/2006 7:32 PM

09/07/2006 12:29 PM

As suggested, a mortise chisel helped to speed things up a bit.
I used a backsaw to cut down to the line. Made a series of these
cuts then used the chisel.

Hadn't thought of the spokeshave and I don't own one but I do
like tool shopping. Time to buy one and give it a try. Sounds
like just the right tool.

Thank you
Ken

"Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A bowsaw to cut close to the line then clean it up with a
> spokeshave would be the fastest.
> Since I don't have a bowsaw I probably use a hatchet or adze,
> followed by a drawknife, then the spokeshave if I had to use
> human powered tools.
>
> Art
>


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