This is partly venting, I guess, but the last two Timberwolf blades
I've gotten have broken prematurely on the welds. Could it be the
fault of the machine, or not having the right tension on the blade?
I've used my own judgement on that score for as long as I can remember,
and never had blades break like this, even the Sears cheapies.
So you're saying that any more than a 50% failure rate is unacceptable?
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Haven't bought any Timberwolf blades in about a year now, usually buy them
> in lots of 20 or so. Last batch I bought had about 10 failures at the
joint
> and I sent them back to Suffolk and they either repaired them or replaced
> them ( if damaged) at no charge. I hope that there service has not gone
> down, I am ready to order new blades.
>
>
I honestly am not doubting you guys BUT maybe I have been extremely
lucky.
I have been using Timberwolf Bandsaw blades for a long long time
(years ...not days..) and Still have not broken a single blade...
NOT A ONE..
Now.... if one did break... and the manufacturer said tough luck buddy
My money would be on another horse the next time..
Bob Griffiths .
It would seem that Timberwolf quality is going way downhill over the
last 6 months. I've heard many complaint about thier blades breaking at
the welds, and timberwolf refuses to replace them.
The warrantee is for "New / Unused blades" according to a response from
the company president.
i.e. If you leave the blade sealed in the original shipping package...
they will warrentee it for life. Otherwise.. you're on your own.
I wont buy from them anymore .. and I never had a problem with them.
But customer service to me is THAT important.
Three times Suffolk price for 14" BS? Lat ones I bought from Suffolk
were about $17.00 which is a FAR cry from three times $10.00!
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:48:02 GMT, B a r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dave wrote:
>> I heard that Timberwolf makes Suffolk and Olson blades.
>
>AFAIK, Olson is a separate company that has existed for many, many moons.
>
>They're right here in Connecticut:
>
><http://www.olsonsaw.com/index.html>
>
>Note that Olson manufactures private label blades. Maybe you've got it
>backwards, if the two concerns are related at all.
>
>My favorite Olson blades for a 14" Delta are only about $10 each at
>ballewtool.com. I've only tried ONE Timberwolf, but couldn't see why
>I'd pay 3X over the All-Pro.
>
>Barry
B a r r y wrote:
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> My favorite Olson blades for a 14" Delta are only about $10 each at
> ballewtool.com. I've only tried ONE Timberwolf, but couldn't see why
> I'd pay 3X over the All-Pro.
Might want to try www.ballewtools.com instead, it'll work better.
Dave in Fairfax
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IIRC someone posted that they believed Suffolk guaranteed their
blades. Check with them?
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:20:12 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>My first and last Timberwolf blade broke after two short weeks of use, on
>the weld. My "Olson's" last for months. I will NEVER buy a Timberwolf
>again.
>
>--
>
>Rumpty
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><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> This is partly venting, I guess, but the last two Timberwolf blades
>> I've gotten have broken prematurely on the welds. Could it be the
>> fault of the machine, or not having the right tension on the blade?
>> I've used my own judgement on that score for as long as I can remember,
>> and never had blades break like this, even the Sears cheapies.
>>
>
Dave wrote:
> I heard that Timberwolf makes Suffolk and Olson blades.
AFAIK, Olson is a separate company that has existed for many, many moons.
They're right here in Connecticut:
<http://www.olsonsaw.com/index.html>
Note that Olson manufactures private label blades. Maybe you've got it
backwards, if the two concerns are related at all.
My favorite Olson blades for a 14" Delta are only about $10 each at
ballewtool.com. I've only tried ONE Timberwolf, but couldn't see why
I'd pay 3X over the All-Pro.
Barry
[email protected] wrote:
> This is partly venting, I guess, but the last two Timberwolf blades
> I've gotten have broken prematurely on the welds. Could it be the
> fault of the machine, or not having the right tension on the blade?
> I've used my own judgement on that score for as long as I can remember,
> and never had blades break like this, even the Sears cheapies.
>
It sounds like the manufacturer may have had a problem with their
welding machine. Timberwolf blades are guaranteed NOT to break at the
welds. Call Suffolk Machinery for replacements.
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My first and last Timberwolf blade broke after two short weeks of use, on
the weld. My "Olson's" last for months. I will NEVER buy a Timberwolf
again.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is partly venting, I guess, but the last two Timberwolf blades
> I've gotten have broken prematurely on the welds. Could it be the
> fault of the machine, or not having the right tension on the blade?
> I've used my own judgement on that score for as long as I can remember,
> and never had blades break like this, even the Sears cheapies.
>
A 50% failure rate is unacceptable in most cases, but I did day that
Timberwolf did correct the problem and I am still using their blades a year
later from that order. I normally got 2 weeks use out of a "Lowe's" blade
before it broke and no warranty on it, so I feel I am ahead of the game on
blades.
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So you're saying that any more than a 50% failure rate is unacceptable?
>
> "Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Haven't bought any Timberwolf blades in about a year now, usually buy
them
> > in lots of 20 or so. Last batch I bought had about 10 failures at the
> joint
> > and I sent them back to Suffolk and they either repaired them or
replaced
> > them ( if damaged) at no charge. I hope that there service has not gone
> > down, I am ready to order new blades.
> >
> >
>
>
nospambob wrote:
> IIRC someone posted that they believed Suffolk guaranteed their
> blades. Check with them?
>
It's stated on Suffolk's web site:
"Give us a try, you have nothing to lose. Everything we sell has an
unlimited time and performance guarantee. We guarantee all of our welds
except on blades shorter than 65" in length or any blade that has been
improperly sharpened. We do not, however, guarantee blades that are run
on any three-wheel machine. If you do not like our blades we will refund
your money and pay the freight upon their return. This also gives us a
second chance
the opportunity to analyze the blades in order to
determine why they did not meet your satisfaction."
See:
http://www.suffolkmachinery.com/letter_ceo.asp
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Haven't bought any Timberwolf blades in about a year now, usually buy them
in lots of 20 or so. Last batch I bought had about 10 failures at the joint
and I sent them back to Suffolk and they either repaired them or replaced
them ( if damaged) at no charge. I hope that there service has not gone
down, I am ready to order new blades.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is partly venting, I guess, but the last two Timberwolf blades
> I've gotten have broken prematurely on the welds. Could it be the
> fault of the machine, or not having the right tension on the blade?
> I've used my own judgement on that score for as long as I can remember,
> and never had blades break like this, even the Sears cheapies.
>
timgren wrote:
> It would seem that Timberwolf quality is going way downhill over the
> last 6 months. I've heard many complaint about thier blades breaking at
> the welds, and timberwolf refuses to replace them.
> The warrantee is for "New / Unused blades" according to a response from
> the company president.
>
> i.e. If you leave the blade sealed in the original shipping package...
> they will warrentee it for life. Otherwise.. you're on your own.
>
> I wont buy from them anymore .. and I never had a problem with them.
> But customer service to me is THAT important.
>
Knowing Suffolk Machinery's past commitment to customer satisfaction I
find your comments hard to believe. Do you mind if I forward your post
to Suffolk Machinery to get their official policy posted?
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Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
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I heard that Timberwolf makes Suffolk and Olson blades. I've never had a
problem with Timberwolf blades. It's like going into your favorite
restaurant that you have been going to for 40 years, sooner or later you are
going to get a crappy meal.
"nospambob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> IIRC someone posted that they believed Suffolk guaranteed their
> blades. Check with them?
>
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:20:12 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >My first and last Timberwolf blade broke after two short weeks of use, on
> >the weld. My "Olson's" last for months. I will NEVER buy a Timberwolf
> >again.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Rumpty
> >
> >Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
> >
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> >
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> This is partly venting, I guess, but the last two Timberwolf blades
> >> I've gotten have broken prematurely on the welds. Could it be the
> >> fault of the machine, or not having the right tension on the blade?
> >> I've used my own judgement on that score for as long as I can remember,
> >> and never had blades break like this, even the Sears cheapies.
> >>
> >
>
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:20:12 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>My first and last Timberwolf blade broke after two short weeks of use, on
>the weld. My "Olson's" last for months. I will NEVER buy a Timberwolf
>again.
I too change to Olson Pro and Iturra's Promaster. I was
bashed recently when I posted "I would not buy it, nor
will I accept it even if it's free!"
BTW, you should call or email Iturra:
[email protected] or toll-free 888-722-7078
Iturra's catalogue is really a Bandsaw's handbook for
newbies who wanna know more about bandsaw and
associated parts. For experienced woodworkers you
can find tires, spring and etc's. It's worth waiting for
a few months for the catalogue.
Disclaimer: No relationship with Iturra in anyway or form.
I too found out about Iturra here last year.
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:57:41 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
<[email protected]> wrote:
You got better luck than me with 50% failure, my was 100% failure?
Why don't you try and Iturra's Promaster or Olsen Pro as they
cost no more than that you know what...
>Haven't bought any Timberwolf blades in about a year now, usually buy them
>in lots of 20 or so. Last batch I bought had about 10 failures at the joint
>and I sent them back to Suffolk and they either repaired them or replaced
>them ( if damaged) at no charge. I hope that there service has not gone
>down, I am ready to order new blades.
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> This is partly venting, I guess, but the last two Timberwolf blades
>> I've gotten have broken prematurely on the welds. Could it be the
>> fault of the machine, or not having the right tension on the blade?
>> I've used my own judgement on that score for as long as I can remember,
>> and never had blades break like this, even the Sears cheapies.
>>
>
Nope, breaking at the welds almost always is due to a shitty weld
Would contact them about replacement for free - the blades were
DEFECTIVE
John
On 20 Jul 2005 09:04:27 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>This is partly venting, I guess, but the last two Timberwolf blades
>I've gotten have broken prematurely on the welds. Could it be the
>fault of the machine, or not having the right tension on the blade?
>I've used my own judgement on that score for as long as I can remember,
>and never had blades break like this, even the Sears cheapies.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>This is partly venting, I guess, but the last two Timberwolf blades
>I've gotten have broken prematurely on the welds. Could it be the
>fault of the machine, or not having the right tension on the blade?
>I've used my own judgement on that score for as long as I can remember,
>and never had blades break like this, even the Sears cheapies.
>
Timberwolf blades are supposed to be low tension; I'm guessing you didn't
tension it per their instructions. If "your own judgement" led you to put much
more tension on the blades than they intended, I'd guess that might have
something to do with it.
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In article <[email protected]>,
"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Knowing Suffolk Machinery's past commitment to customer satisfaction I
> find your comments hard to believe. Do you mind if I forward your post
> to Suffolk Machinery to get their official policy posted?
Hello Jack. Whether timgren minds or not, this is a public forum open to
anyone to read and post. Forward away or point Suffolk to the original
message if you're leery about forwarding.
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