Folks -
Well, I've been stamped, folded, pricked, tested, certified, administrated,
negotiated, collated and investigated. I start teaching woodworking at 9AM
on Monday, March 14, and I'll be teaching a total of 17 hours a week over 4
days. I only will have one group of students to start, a second will be
added as the program gears up.
I go in Tuesday, Wendnesday and Thursday next week to inventory, organize
and clean up the shop in preparation for class the following week.
I've even ordered myself a brand spankin' new shop apron from Duluth Trading
Co - I already have a good supply of the requisite flannel shirts.
They've told me to run the shop like it's my own show, and not worry about
picking up where the other classes left off - I'll be starting from scratch.
I figure I should start out class with what people already know - get some
familiarity with the group of ~15, then move on to safety and the very
basics of measuring and marking. When I discussed the math involved with
the making of say a circular table top, I was told to keep it VERY simple,
that not all students would understand fractions well, or would know what
"diameter" was. So, simple it is!
The shop has a belsaw molding cutter and a Shop-Bot - I've never used either
one, but would really like to learn all I can about CNC. I'll have a HUGE
(I hope!) project later this year that may warrant purchasing one for my own
shop.
Woodworking .101 here I come!
John Moorhead
Hi john,
> PS: I expect the kids will have a real ball with my last name. I'm just
> glad my first name isn't Richard.
>
I feel your energy. You might remember my post from before. I was the
one who taught middle school for 30 years (not shop).
I certainly wish you all the best.
Let's see (just getting you prepared!):
Mr. Moore "bore"
Mr. Head "case"
John, John
Stick-Man
Glue-Dude
You get it. Have a real thick skin and remember that they
are just kids. We did the same way back.
Again, best of luck. Be real and you will be fine.
Lou
Well then dagnabbit, I'd see to it that those kids learn their geometry
from their plane iron sharpening angles, their circle segment radii from
making moldings or scyma curves, and find the center point of a piece of
wood, and divide the edge of a board into thirds for mortise work, such
that after a couple of semesters they'd be quoting Pythagoras to that
administrator who may have lost sight of what's most important: to find,
and then rescue the mind of, that one kid who might otherwise have
dropped out.
If your class is the only "fun" genuinely educational experience that
they ever have, you'll be working miracles.
And maybe they'll be more inclined to make fun of Pythagoras' name than
your own. Or not! ;-)
Enjoy,
J.
John Moorhead wrote:
> When I discussed the math involved with
> the making of say a circular table top, I was told to keep it VERY simple,
> that not all students would understand fractions well, or would know what
> "diameter" was. So, simple it is!
"John Moorhead" wrote:
> Folks -
>
> Well, I've been stamped, folded, pricked, tested, certified, administrated,
> negotiated, collated and investigated. I start teaching woodworking at 9AM
> on Monday, March 14, and I'll be teaching a total of 17 hours a week over 4
> days. I only will have one group of students to start, a second will be
> added as the program gears up.
>
> I go in Tuesday, Wendnesday and Thursday next week to inventory, organize
> and clean up the shop in preparation for class the following week.
>
> I've even ordered myself a brand spankin' new shop apron from Duluth Trading
> Co - I already have a good supply of the requisite flannel shirts.
>
> They've told me to run the shop like it's my own show, and not worry about
> picking up where the other classes left off - I'll be starting from scratch.
> I figure I should start out class with what people already know - get some
> familiarity with the group of ~15, then move on to safety and the very
> basics of measuring and marking. When I discussed the math involved with
> the making of say a circular table top, I was told to keep it VERY simple,
> that not all students would understand fractions well, or would know what
> "diameter" was. So, simple it is!
>
> The shop has a belsaw molding cutter and a Shop-Bot - I've never used either
> one, but would really like to learn all I can about CNC. I'll have a HUGE
> (I hope!) project later this year that may warrant purchasing one for my own
> shop.
>
> Woodworking .101 here I come!
>
> John Moorhead
>
>
Hey good for you, congrats! Knock 'em dead.
--
San Diego Joe
Larry Jaques responds:
>I really wanted a 3000 when I was a youth.
I got to work on one a whole lot. Dad had the AH 100-4 and raced it
in gymkhanas and autocrosses when I was a wee lad. I even learned
how to tune spoke wheels before I was 10. A restored '54 is now worth
over $150k.
I wantd the 3000, too, but...I just got back from a car show. Any idea
how much an absolutely CHERRY 1957 Chev Bel Air hardtop is worth these
days? Never been restored, factory paint, the only replacements have
been tires. It has been driven about 1035 miles since 1969, and very
little before that. My first new car was a '57 Chev convertible, and it
was in rougher shape after a month than this one is after nearly 50
years.
Met another guy who claims to have a '63 up on stands in his garage. He
bought it, drove it home, and now runs it monthly, on stands, shifting
through the gears to keep it limber.
"John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Folks -
>
>... I've even ordered myself a brand spankin' new shop apron ...
Do you get a leather one???
In article <[email protected]>,
John Moorhead <[email protected]> wrote:
>Bill -
>
>PS: I expect the kids will have a real ball with my last name. I'm just
>glad my first name isn't Richard.
All things are "relative" -- particularly with names.
The following are all absolutely true -- I know the parties personally.
A family, with the last name of "Butz", named their son Harold.
A family with the last name of "Tracey", named their son Richard. For some
strange reason, he went by "Rick". He could have had things a lot worse,
the local newspaper did *NOT* carry that comic strip.
Then there was the Dick family. The husband had a *terrible* (in _several_
meanings of the word!) sense of humor. He was seriously planning to name
their second daughter "Tracy". It took a *deadly*serious* threat of divorce
by his wife to talk him out of it.
Lastly, there is *my* great-grandmother. Maiden name Allah Micah (a good
Biblical name). However, when she married a Mr. Roy Gater, she became
Mrs. Allah Gater. One thing we know with absolute certainty -- she *really*
loved that man -- she *HAD* to, to be willing to live with _that_ for the
rest of her life. :)
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 10:06:13 -0600, the inscrutable Patriarch
<[email protected]> spake:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
>> I got to work on one a whole lot. Dad had the AH 100-4 and raced it
>> in gymkhanas and autocrosses when I was a wee lad. I even learned
>> how to tune spoke wheels before I was 10. A restored '54 is now worth
>> over $150k. <thud>
>
>I remember that those were really pretty, but the mechanicals were fairly
>rudimentary, particularly in today's terms. My un-restored '51 spine needs
>more modern engineering.
Like a nice little fuel-injected Ford 302 V-8? Cool.
>The search for a Healey was set aside, when in late '72 I met a dark-eyed
>brunette, who drove an old VW bug. She turned out to be a much better
>investment. ;-)
I sure question her taste. (No, I meant on the bug.) <bseg>
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Good luck in this endeavor. Teaching was a very rewarding time for me.
Kids are way smarter than the administration gives them credit for.
Properly challenge them and watch them rise to it.
Dave
"John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Folks -
>
> Well, I've been stamped, folded, pricked, tested, certified,
> administrated, negotiated, collated and investigated. I start teaching
> woodworking at 9AM on Monday, March 14, and I'll be teaching a total of 17
> hours a week over 4 days. I only will have one group of students to
> start, a second will be added as the program gears up.
>
> I go in Tuesday, Wendnesday and Thursday next week to inventory, organize
> and clean up the shop in preparation for class the following week.
>
> I've even ordered myself a brand spankin' new shop apron from Duluth
> Trading Co - I already have a good supply of the requisite flannel shirts.
>
> They've told me to run the shop like it's my own show, and not worry about
> picking up where the other classes left off - I'll be starting from
> scratch. I figure I should start out class with what people already know -
> get some familiarity with the group of ~15, then move on to safety and the
> very basics of measuring and marking. When I discussed the math involved
> with the making of say a circular table top, I was told to keep it VERY
> simple, that not all students would understand fractions well, or would
> know what "diameter" was. So, simple it is!
>
> The shop has a belsaw molding cutter and a Shop-Bot - I've never used
> either one, but would really like to learn all I can about CNC. I'll have
> a HUGE (I hope!) project later this year that may warrant purchasing one
> for my own shop.
>
> Woodworking .101 here I come!
>
> John Moorhead
>
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John Moorhead wrote:
> Folks -
>
> Well, I've been stamped, folded, pricked, tested, certified, administrated,
> negotiated, collated and investigated. I start teaching woodworking at 9AM
> on Monday, March 14, and I'll be teaching a total of 17 hours a week over 4
> days. I only will have one group of students to start, a second will be
> added as the program gears up.
>
Snip
>
> Woodworking .101 here I come!
>
> John Moorhead
>
>
What channel will it be on? :)
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
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bullfighting is to agriculture.
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Patriarch wrote:
> A family we know personally, with the last name of Healey, named their
> first son Austin.
First one shoulda been Jensen.
Dave in Fairfax
--
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use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
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Patriarch wrote:
> Jensen Healey actually came later, and was really ugly, IMHO. (Speaking of
> the automobile.)
> I really wanted a 3000 when I was a youth.
Ya know, I thought of that after I hit the send button, of
course. My younger brother had a thing for British cars, I
preferred modified and superstock. Oh well. He was the one
trying to keep the E-type running. I rebuilt a Sunbeam (Alpine,
not Tiger) and pinned the Jag speedo in it. All good clean fun
half a centruy ago.
Dave in Fairfax
--
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reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 00:13:05 -0600, the inscrutable Patriarch
<[email protected]> spake:
>I really wanted a 3000 when I was a youth.
I got to work on one a whole lot. Dad had the AH 100-4 and raced it
in gymkhanas and autocrosses when I was a wee lad. I even learned
how to tune spoke wheels before I was 10. A restored '54 is now worth
over $150k. <thud>
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"John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
> When I
> discussed the math involved with the making of say a circular table
> top, I was told to keep it VERY simple, that not all students would
> understand fractions well, or would know what "diameter" was. So,
> simple it is!
>
I never thought of either of my father's brothers as over educated, when it
came to school education. But both of them were really talented finish
carpenters, who knew how to use _every_ tool in the box, in ways I still
haven't figured out.
One of the most productive series of learning events that I had as a youth
was a tremendous amount of volunteer labor opportunity, working with my
dad, and literally dozens of skilled tradespeople on church and community
projects. The lessons taught, about what we were really capable of, were
some of the most valuable of that time.
Certainly made some of the academic lessons seem more important.
Enjoy this, John. Teach them like you care who they can become.
Patriarch,
wondering how kids with a limited understanding of math are going to take
to a CNC machine. It should be a great incentive.
[email protected] (Robert Bonomi) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> John Moorhead <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Bill -
>>
>>PS: I expect the kids will have a real ball with my last name. I'm
>>just glad my first name isn't Richard.
>
> All things are "relative" -- particularly with names.
>
> The following are all absolutely true -- I know the parties
> personally.
>
> A family, with the last name of "Butz", named their son Harold.
>
A family we know personally, with the last name of Healey, named their
first son Austin.
Patriarch
Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]> wrote in news:4228B897.DB353EF5
@fairfax.com:
> Patriarch wrote:
>> A family we know personally, with the last name of Healey, named their
>> first son Austin.
>
> First one shoulda been Jensen.
>
> Dave in Fairfax
Jensen Healey actually came later, and was really ugly, IMHO. (Speaking of
the automobile.)
I really wanted a 3000 when I was a youth.
Patriarch
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 00:13:05 -0600, the inscrutable Patriarch
> <[email protected]> spake:
>
>>I really wanted a 3000 when I was a youth.
>
> I got to work on one a whole lot. Dad had the AH 100-4 and raced it
> in gymkhanas and autocrosses when I was a wee lad. I even learned
> how to tune spoke wheels before I was 10. A restored '54 is now worth
> over $150k. <thud>
>
I remember that those were really pretty, but the mechanicals were fairly
rudimentary, particularly in today's terms. My un-restored '51 spine needs
more modern engineering.
The search for a Healey was set aside, when in late '72 I met a dark-eyed
brunette, who drove an old VW bug. She turned out to be a much better
investment. ;-)
Patriarch
Shop teacher and Boy Scout troop leader named the boys Tom, Dick and
Harry. Buddy was named John Jones.
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 14:37:33 -0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>John Moorhead <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Bill -
>>
>>PS: I expect the kids will have a real ball with my last name. I'm just
>>glad my first name isn't Richard.
>
>All things are "relative" -- particularly with names.
>
>The following are all absolutely true -- I know the parties personally.
>
>A family, with the last name of "Butz", named their son Harold.
>
>A family with the last name of "Tracey", named their son Richard. For some
>strange reason, he went by "Rick". He could have had things a lot worse,
>the local newspaper did *NOT* carry that comic strip.
>
>Then there was the Dick family. The husband had a *terrible* (in _several_
>meanings of the word!) sense of humor. He was seriously planning to name
>their second daughter "Tracy". It took a *deadly*serious* threat of divorce
>by his wife to talk him out of it.
>
>Lastly, there is *my* great-grandmother. Maiden name Allah Micah (a good
>Biblical name). However, when she married a Mr. Roy Gater, she became
>Mrs. Allah Gater. One thing we know with absolute certainty -- she *really*
>loved that man -- she *HAD* to, to be willing to live with _that_ for the
>rest of her life. :)
>
>
>
>
"San Diego Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1109885721.fb0ef8c096c8c37db3e92e3c091e4d00@teranews...
> "John Moorhead" wrote:
>
>> Folks -
>>
>> Well, I've been stamped, folded, pricked, tested, certified,
>> administrated,
>> negotiated, collated and investigated. I start teaching woodworking at
>> 9AM
>> on Monday, March 14, and I'll be teaching a total of 17 hours a week over
>> 4
>> days. I only will have one group of students to start, a second will be
>> added as the program gears up.
>>
>> I go in Tuesday, Wendnesday and Thursday next week to inventory, organize
>> and clean up the shop in preparation for class the following week.
>>
>> I've even ordered myself a brand spankin' new shop apron from Duluth
>> Trading
>> Co - I already have a good supply of the requisite flannel shirts.
>>
>> They've told me to run the shop like it's my own show, and not worry
>> about
>> picking up where the other classes left off - I'll be starting from
>> scratch.
>> I figure I should start out class with what people already know - get
>> some
>> familiarity with the group of ~15, then move on to safety and the very
>> basics of measuring and marking. When I discussed the math involved with
>> the making of say a circular table top, I was told to keep it VERY
>> simple,
>> that not all students would understand fractions well, or would know what
>> "diameter" was. So, simple it is!
>>
>> The shop has a belsaw molding cutter and a Shop-Bot - I've never used
>> either
>> one, but would really like to learn all I can about CNC. I'll have a
>> HUGE
>> (I hope!) project later this year that may warrant purchasing one for my
>> own
>> shop.
>>
>> Woodworking .101 here I come!
>>
>> John Moorhead
>>
>>
> Hey good for you, congrats! Knock 'em dead.
don't take that literally.
>
> --
> San Diego Joe
>
John Moorhead wrote:
> The shop has a belsaw molding cutter and a Shop-Bot - I've
> never used either one, but would really like to learn all I
> can about CNC. I'll have a HUGE (I hope!) project later this
> year that may warrant purchasing one for my own shop.
It all sounds pretty exciting! My web site has some ShopBot info
(with lotsa pictures) that you may find helpful; and if I can be
of help to you, you're invited to e-mail me directly.
The ShopBot forum at http://www.talkshopbot.com has pictures of a
few student projects and discussion threads about 'Bots in
educational settings. Please feel welcome to join the forum.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
Bill -
"Tour Guide" - I like that! This is a Regional Occupation Program, so I
think that the students are jr and sr HS students. I am supposed to have
another group of young adults down the road, but for now HS students.
Oh, and for the earlier poster, I got the olive drab apron from Duluth
Trading. They've been sending me catalogs for YEARS, and the apron -
aprons - I ordered TWO.... came today.
http://www.duluthtrading.com/items/83490.asp
I went through the ROP program here, I wasn't a "special needs" anything....
I just wanted to be a mechanic... and the instructor I had was a gem. I got
more common sense information and smarts in that classroom than I did from
*ALL* my perfessers in college (no slight intended, it's just how it is).
I am really looking forward to getting going! Thanks for your remarks -
mind if I pester you from time to time??
John Moorhead
PS: I expect the kids will have a real ball with my last name. I'm just
glad my first name isn't Richard.
"Anonymous" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:16:35 -0800, Teamcasa wrote:
>
>> Good luck in this endeavor. Teaching was a very rewarding time for me.
>>
>> Kids are way smarter than the administration gives them credit for.
>> Properly challenge them and watch them rise to it.
>>
>> Dave
>>
> I agree. I taught adult education for 3 years to high-school dropouts.
> These people had been told all their lives just exactly how stupid they
> were.
>
> You've never seen a trout rise to a fly the way these people rose to the
> challenges I set in front of them (480 class room hours).
>
> Tell your students that you were told that they wouldn't understand the
> parts of a circle or what to do with them. Then promise that, if they
> follow your lead, they'll know more about circles, triangles and lines
> than the kids taking geometry class will. Then set out to make good on
> your threats. Get a current issue geometry book and, as you go, let the
> students know what page they are on when they calculate an area, find a
> center from a chord, use a protractor to construct an angle and make it
> fit its complement. Show them how to set up a compound angle and drill it
> to a predetermined depth. Show them the math and show them the results and
> make them do BOTH on their own.
>
> Challenge them. Hard.
>
> You didn't tell us their ages or grade level but I strongly urge you to
> push them beyond the limits you might think reasonable. Likely as not,
> they'll amaze you. Wake them up to the fact that you only record their
> grades ... the wood actually gives them -- the evidence of learning is
> accomplishment.
>
> Somewhere mid-course you'll begin to see lights flickering and then
> getting solidly turned on and you'll stop being a teacher and become a
> tour guide.
>
> That's the part I liked the best. Tour guide.
>
> Best job I've ever had ... bar none.
>
> Bill
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 13:16:35 -0800, Teamcasa wrote:
> Good luck in this endeavor. Teaching was a very rewarding time for me.
>
> Kids are way smarter than the administration gives them credit for.
> Properly challenge them and watch them rise to it.
>
> Dave
>
I agree. I taught adult education for 3 years to high-school dropouts.
These people had been told all their lives just exactly how stupid they
were.
You've never seen a trout rise to a fly the way these people rose to the
challenges I set in front of them (480 class room hours).
Tell your students that you were told that they wouldn't understand the
parts of a circle or what to do with them. Then promise that, if they
follow your lead, they'll know more about circles, triangles and lines
than the kids taking geometry class will. Then set out to make good on
your threats. Get a current issue geometry book and, as you go, let the
students know what page they are on when they calculate an area, find a
center from a chord, use a protractor to construct an angle and make it
fit its complement. Show them how to set up a compound angle and drill it
to a predetermined depth. Show them the math and show them the results and
make them do BOTH on their own.
Challenge them. Hard.
You didn't tell us their ages or grade level but I strongly urge you to
push them beyond the limits you might think reasonable. Likely as not,
they'll amaze you. Wake them up to the fact that you only record their
grades ... the wood actually gives them -- the evidence of learning is
accomplishment.
Somewhere mid-course you'll begin to see lights flickering and then
getting solidly turned on and you'll stop being a teacher and become a
tour guide.
That's the part I liked the best. Tour guide.
Best job I've ever had ... bar none.
Bill