On 8 Oct 2004 15:25:32 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>Lime is a traditional wood for Viking work? Serious question here, how
>do they get citrus trees to grow in Norway?
Lime - Tilia species, aka linden or basswood. You don't grow green
lemons on it.
Small leaved limes are found in the Scandanavian countries, large
leaved limes are only found in the Southern half of Europe (mid UK and
South). Most of the limes we have today are a hybrid.
Charlie,
fact is, responses don't always carry "OT:" in the subject. Second point is
the Patriot guy is a troll, third point is there is a large number of
wreckers who think it is ok to put this political crap in the group.
It used to be that politics, religion and sex were banned in some
workplaces. In others it was an unspoken rule - for good reason. I don't
mind the occasional OT thread myself, but if I want to follow American
politics I'll go to a suitable NG. The 100-200 post superthreads in the
wreck simply should not be here.
--
Greg
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Elling Iverson can't figure out:
>
>>Would someone please explain what this Kerry/Bush bullshit has to do
>>with woodworking?
>
> Check out the OT in front of most of the posts. That means "Off Topic" and
> tends to mean the guys posting are discussing something other than
> woodworking,
> something that may or may not be bullshit of the purest ray serene, but
> that
> might also take place in a shop in a real life setting. So, on that basis,
> it's
> about woodworking.
>
> Best bet: if OT posts send you up the wall, filter anything with OT.
>
> Does Web TV filter? If not, simply avoid OT posts. They're dangerous. You
> might
> learn something. Or not.
>
> Charlie Self
> "The really frightening thing about middle age is that you know you'll
> grow out
> of it." Doris Day
Elling Iverson wrote:
> Would someone please explain what this Kerry/Bush bullshit has to do
> with woodworking?
According to GOP approved site Bush owns part of a timber company?
Bush is dumber than two short planks?
Bush would-work but he is too busy having another holiday?
No, actually the answer is that the rectangular bulge in Bush's
jacket seen in the debate photos is a small block of wood that
is permanently embedded in Bush's back after a nasty kickback
incident with a tablesaw.
Karen,
yes, start a new thread, maybe with the subject line "Wood carving,
Viking style." This thread is destined to go into the trasher...
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:44:23 -0700, [email protected] (karen king)
wrote:
>I agree with your observation. I want to discuss carving and am teaching
>myself to work in the manner of the Vikings. Must be in the DNA,want to
>represent my heritage.Any thoughts?
Elling Iverson can't figure out:
>Would someone please explain what this Kerry/Bush bullshit has to do
>with woodworking?
Check out the OT in front of most of the posts. That means "Off Topic" and
tends to mean the guys posting are discussing something other than woodworking,
something that may or may not be bullshit of the purest ray serene, but that
might also take place in a shop in a real life setting. So, on that basis, it's
about woodworking.
Best bet: if OT posts send you up the wall, filter anything with OT.
Does Web TV filter? If not, simply avoid OT posts. They're dangerous. You might
learn something. Or not.
Charlie Self
"The really frightening thing about middle age is that you know you'll grow out
of it." Doris Day
On 9 Oct 2004 18:52:04 -0700, "Phillip Hallam-Baker"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Elling Iverson wrote:
>> Would someone please explain what this Kerry/Bush bullshit has to do
>> with woodworking?
Plywood prices?
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:44:23 -0700, karen king <[email protected]> wrote:
> I want to discuss carving and am teaching
> myself to work in the manner of the Vikings. Must be in the DNA,want to
> represent my heritage.Any thoughts?
Have you checked out the Vesterheim museum in Decorah, Iowa?
http://www.vesterheim.org/ - the have a extensive museum, and contests
and exhibitions. Good bookstore as well, might have something in there
that's of use to you. If you're anywhere near Iowa, it's worth the
drive to go to in person.
Dave Hinz
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:31:37 GMT, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> karen king wrote:
>
>> I want to discuss carving and am teaching
>> myself to work in the manner of the Vikings. Must be in the DNA,want to
>> represent my heritage.Any thoughts?
>
> Lime or Basswood is a better choice to begin with and
> Lime is also a traditional wood.
Lime is a traditional wood for Viking work? Serious question here, how
do they get citrus trees to grow in Norway?
> Depending on what you're doing you might want to spring for a Frost (brand
> name) curved knife. ($20 or less, available from Highland Hardware and a lot
> of other places.) Great for doing spoons, bowls, etc. Just remember to
> sharpen and hone it before you try to use it.
Lots of tools are available from vesterheim.org 's store, and they're used
to shipping supplies, blanks, and tools to folks.
Dave Hinz
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:24:51 +0100, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8 Oct 2004 15:25:32 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Lime is a traditional wood for Viking work? Serious question here, how
>>do they get citrus trees to grow in Norway?
>
> Lime - Tilia species, aka linden or basswood. You don't grow green
> lemons on it.
Ah. That I can see, in fact I've got hundreds of 'em growing on my land
in a not-dissimilar-from-Norway climate (Wisconsin).
So, what's the best way to handle a basswood tree to get it to be
most usable for carving? I've got a clump of 'em overhanging what is going
to be the back yard once I get the lawn in.
Dave Hinz
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:31:29 +0100, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Take the leaves off, ignore it for a couple of years. Lime has to be
> the easiest timber to season - it's very well behaved.
Yay.
> OK, so it's not _that_ easy. You need to split the log or you'll get
> splitting. But it's an easy season, even in 4" thick slabbed logs, or
> as big lumps for carving.
> Don't let water drip on it, or you get water stain problems.
So bite-sized pieces, split down the middle, stack in non-leaky shed.
Seems to be pretty forgiving. Thanks for that.
Dave
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 00:00:14 GMT, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>
>> So, what's the best way to handle a basswood tree to get it to be
>> most usable for carving? I've got a clump of 'em overhanging what is going
>> to be the back yard once I get the lawn in.
>
> Well, first you cut it down. Then you ship the whole thing to me. Postpaid, of
> course.
Where are you at? If you're close, come one over and get some.
Dave
karen king wrote:
> I agree with your observation. I want to discuss carving and am teaching
> myself to work in the manner of the Vikings. Must be in the DNA,want to
> represent my heritage.Any thoughts?
Get your tools really, really sharp and match your design to the grain of
the wood. Don't try to do fiddly little stuff on wood that won't support it.
Oak is a traditional wood for Viking-era carving, but its too coarse grained
for a lot of designs. Lime or Basswood is a better choice to begin with and
Lime is also a traditional wood.
Depending on what you're doing you might want to spring for a Frost (brand
name) curved knife. ($20 or less, available from Highland Hardware and a lot
of other places.) Great for doing spoons, bowls, etc. Just remember to
sharpen and hone it before you try to use it.
Study as many pictures as you can find. There are some subtleties to the
various Viking styles that aren't immediately obvious. For example, pay
attention to the symmetry (or lack of it) in those carvings.
Above all, have fun.
--RC
Dave Hinz wrote:
> Ah. That I can see, in fact I've got hundreds of 'em growing on my land
> in a not-dissimilar-from-Norway climate (Wisconsin).
> So, what's the best way to handle a basswood tree to get it to be
> most usable for carving? I've got a clump of 'em overhanging what is going
> to be the back yard once I get the lawn in.
Carving blocks are much like turning blanks. Cut to size,
anchorseal, store 'till dry in a "controlled" environment. Check
for other opinions over in RCW.
Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
http://www.Patinatools.org/
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:31:37 GMT, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > karen king wrote:
> >
> >> I want to discuss carving and am teaching
> >> myself to work in the manner of the Vikings. Must be in the DNA,want to
> >> represent my heritage.Any thoughts?
> >
> > Lime or Basswood is a better choice to begin with and
> > Lime is also a traditional wood.
>
> Lime is a traditional wood for Viking work? Serious question here, how
> do they get citrus trees to grow in Norway?
Terminology problem. English and European 'lime' is not citrus. It's closely related
to American basswood and has much the same properties for carving. Stuff is a
pleasure to work.
--RC
>
>
> > Depending on what you're doing you might want to spring for a Frost (brand
> > name) curved knife. ($20 or less, available from Highland Hardware and a lot
> > of other places.) Great for doing spoons, bowls, etc. Just remember to
> > sharpen and hone it before you try to use it.
>
> Lots of tools are available from vesterheim.org 's store, and they're used
> to shipping supplies, blanks, and tools to folks.
>
> Dave Hinz
>
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:24:51 +0100, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 8 Oct 2004 15:25:32 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Lime is a traditional wood for Viking work? Serious question here, how
> >>do they get citrus trees to grow in Norway?
> >
> > Lime - Tilia species, aka linden or basswood. You don't grow green
> > lemons on it.
>
> Ah. That I can see, in fact I've got hundreds of 'em growing on my land
> in a not-dissimilar-from-Norway climate (Wisconsin).
> So, what's the best way to handle a basswood tree to get it to be
> most usable for carving? I've got a clump of 'em overhanging what is going
> to be the back yard once I get the lawn in.
Well, first you cut it down. Then you ship the whole thing to me. Postpaid, of
course.
--RC
>
>
> Dave Hinz
"Elling Iverson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Would someone please explain what this Kerry/Bush bullshit has to do
> with woodworking?
>
Wasn't one of the Kerry sound bites "I invented woodworking on river patrol"
or something like that?
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:18:40 -0500, Elling Iverson <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Would someone please explain what this Kerry/Bush bullshit has to do
> with woodworking?
>
Now . .were it Carter, he's had stuff published in FWW.
"Elling Iverson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Would someone please explain what this Kerry/Bush bullshit has to do
> with woodworking?
Man, you seem to bitch about the Kerry/Bush BS and then you want someone to
explain it to you? Can you say conundrum?
I think I remember seeing both Kerry and Bush wearing a viking hat on some
website somewhere once. Maybe it was www.jibjab.com ? You might want to
follow the advice of TWS and start a new thread on Viking style carving...
"karen king" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I agree with your observation. I want to discuss carving and am teaching
> myself to work in the manner of the Vikings. Must be in the DNA,want to
> represent my heritage.Any thoughts?
>
WoodMangler wrote:
> Leon did say:
>
>
>>"Elling Iverson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Would someone please explain what this Kerry/Bush bullshit has to do
>>>with woodworking?
>>
>>
>>Man, you seem to bitch about the Kerry/Bush BS and then you want someone to
>>explain it to you? Can you say conundrum?
>
>
> I can't even spell it. Hey, maybe I should be Vice President!
>
Can you spell potatoe?
Joe
On 8 Oct 2004 17:29:19 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>So, what's the best way to handle a basswood tree to get it to be
>most usable for carving?
Take the leaves off, ignore it for a couple of years. Lime has to be
the easiest timber to season - it's very well behaved.
OK, so it's not _that_ easy. You need to split the log or you'll get
splitting. But it's an easy season, even in 4" thick slabbed logs, or
as big lumps for carving.
Don't let water drip on it, or you get water stain problems.
--
Smert' spamionam
Leon did say:
>
> "Elling Iverson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Would someone please explain what this Kerry/Bush bullshit has to do
>> with woodworking?
>
>
> Man, you seem to bitch about the Kerry/Bush BS and then you want someone to
> explain it to you? Can you say conundrum?
I can't even spell it. Hey, maybe I should be Vice President!