In article <[email protected]>, Lew
Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> "CW" wrote:
>
> > Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for
> > some very merry holidays.
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Only if the feds look the other way.
Wouldn't the feds interfering reveal the POTUS as an utter hypocri...
Oh, wait...
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
> Only if the feds look the other way.
>
> Lew
==================================================================================="CW" wrote:> We'll see. Someone had to do it.---------------------------------------That train left the station a long time ago.There are MORE "medicinal" maijuana dispensaries in Los Angelesthan there are Starbucks.Feds take out the big ones from time to time.Lew
In article <[email protected]>,
CW <[email protected]> wrote:
> Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for
> some very merry holidays.
Then they are very foolish.
A friend of mine has just retired from his job as a nurse looking after
the mentally ill. You don't even mention drugs to him, he has spent 25
years picking up the pieces, trying to help those damaged by drug use.
There are no such things as "harmless" drugs, even alcohol takes its toll
on people's lives, as I'm sure you are aware.
Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably about
1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is now an
alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading he continues
to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him do it.
--
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"Leon" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2012 6:48 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> Sorry, guys. My newsreader kept saying it was having trouble posting -
> obviously it wasn't.
>
What is "it" smoking? Are YOU in Washington? ;~)
=====================================================================================
I am in Washington and the stuff I'm smoking right now is called Train
Wreck. Good stuff.
On 11/7/2012 9:45 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 11/7/2012 3:47 AM, Stuart wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> CW <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for
>>> some very merry holidays.
>>
>> Then they are very foolish.
>>
>> A friend of mine has just retired from his job as a nurse looking after
>> the mentally ill. You don't even mention drugs to him, he has spent 25
>> years picking up the pieces, trying to help those damaged by drug use.
>>
>> There are no such things as "harmless" drugs, even alcohol takes its toll
>> on people's lives, as I'm sure you are aware.
>>
>> Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably about
>> 1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is now an
>> alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading he continues
>> to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him do it.
>
> Why does any of that make those states "foolish" for legalizing
> recreational marijuana? Do you think that's going to magically enable
> all kinds of people to start taking a drug they wouldn't otherwise
> take? People with addictive behaviors are going to find *something* to
> become addicted to, whether it's legal or not.
>
Actually making Marijuana legal will thin out our jails, add actual
competition to the drug cartels and make selling pot less profitable for
them, and for the "tens of millions" that use it to not have to keep
looking over their shoulder.
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"CW" wrote:
> Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for some
> very merry holidays.
-----------------------------------------------------
Only if the feds look the other way.
Lew
===================================================================================
We'll see. Someone had to do it.
Stuart wrote:
>
> Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably
> about 1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is
> now an alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading
> he continues to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him
> do it.
That's the nature of the beast with any addiction, unfortunately. There are
always those who do indeed know better, who often times, really want out of
that trap, yet somehow just can't seem to break out of it. I have watched
people genuinely try for years, and just never seem to make it to the top.
When you talk with them you can often hear about frustrations within
themselves over this thing, you can often hear how they do not understand it
themselves, and other things that leave you convinced that this really is
bigger than them.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:47:37 +0000 (GMT), Stuart
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> CW <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for
>>> some very merry holidays.
>>
>> Then they are very foolish.
>>
>> A friend of mine has just retired from his job as a nurse looking after
>> the mentally ill. You don't even mention drugs to him, he has spent 25
>> years picking up the pieces, trying to help those damaged by drug use.
>>
>> There are no such things as "harmless" drugs, even alcohol takes its toll
>> on people's lives, as I'm sure you are aware.
>>
>> Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably about
>> 1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is now an
>> alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading he continues
>> to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him do it.
>
>
> The real question, is weed worse than alcohol?
No, that's not the real question.
Both were illegal at
> one time, but since it could not be stopped, the government finally
> made alcohol legal and taxed it. Will the use or abuse of weed
> increase now? Plenty of arguments on both sides and yes, any
> substance can and will be abused.
>
Mike Marlow wrote:
> Stuart wrote:
>
>>
>> Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably
>> about 1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is
>> now an alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading
>> he continues to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him
>> do it.
>
> That's the nature of the beast with any addiction, unfortunately. There are
> always those who do indeed know better, who often times, really want out of
> that trap, yet somehow just can't seem to break out of it. I have watched
> people genuinely try for years, and just never seem to make it to the top.
> When you talk with them you can often hear about frustrations within
> themselves over this thing, you can often hear how they do not understand it
> themselves, and other things that leave you convinced that this really is
> bigger than them.
>
Yes, I have a relative who after losing 2 houses, a job, a husband and
spending 6-figures of someone else's money on rehab, is back to living
with her mother, and still hasn't quit drinking. Parent's don't want to
release their kids out to the streets, even if the 40 year old "kids"
are willing to go.
On 11/7/2012 3:47 AM, Stuart wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> CW <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for
>> some very merry holidays.
>
> Then they are very foolish.
>
> A friend of mine has just retired from his job as a nurse looking after
> the mentally ill. You don't even mention drugs to him, he has spent 25
> years picking up the pieces, trying to help those damaged by drug use.
>
> There are no such things as "harmless" drugs, even alcohol takes its toll
> on people's lives, as I'm sure you are aware.
>
> Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably about
> 1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is now an
> alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading he continues
> to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him do it.
Why does any of that make those states "foolish" for legalizing recreational
marijuana? Do you think that's going to magically enable all kinds of people
to start taking a drug they wouldn't otherwise take? People with addictive
behaviors are going to find *something* to become addicted to, whether it's
legal or not.
--
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Leon wrote:
> On 11/7/2012 9:45 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> On 11/7/2012 3:47 AM, Stuart wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> CW <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for
>>>> some very merry holidays.
>>>
>>> Then they are very foolish.
>>>
>>> A friend of mine has just retired from his job as a nurse looking after
>>> the mentally ill. You don't even mention drugs to him, he has spent 25
>>> years picking up the pieces, trying to help those damaged by drug use.
>>>
>>> There are no such things as "harmless" drugs, even alcohol takes its
>>> toll
>>> on people's lives, as I'm sure you are aware.
>>>
>>> Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably about
>>> 1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is now an
>>> alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading he
>>> continues
>>> to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him do it.
>>
>> Why does any of that make those states "foolish" for legalizing
>> recreational marijuana? Do you think that's going to magically enable
>> all kinds of people to start taking a drug they wouldn't otherwise
>> take? People with addictive behaviors are going to find *something* to
>> become addicted to, whether it's legal or not.
>>
>
>
> Actually making Marijuana legal will thin out our jails, add actual
> competition to the drug cartels and make selling pot less profitable for
> them, and for the "tens of millions" that use it to not have to keep
> looking over their shoulder.
The problem is that you can't legislate responsibility and common sense.
Is legalizing Marijuana a path to a better society? Evidentally some
states have decided that some use is okay. It seems like legalizing it
would reduce by two-thirds the number of cards sold at charity Bingo!
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:05:35 -0500, Bill wrote:
> The problem is that you can't legislate responsibility and common sense.
> Is legalizing Marijuana a path to a better society? Evidentally some
> states have decided that some use is okay. It seems like legalizing it
> would reduce by two-thirds the number of cards sold at charity Bingo!
Nor can you legislate morality. Seems folks could figure out that we
tried that before with Prohibition. All that did was make a bunch of
crooks rich.
Now we're doing the same with marijuana and other drugs - it's not
working there either. And the crooks we're enriching this time aren't
even from the US!
There will always be people looking for a way out of their miserable
existence. Some will turn to alcohol, some to other drugs. Some are
beyond help. But we'd probably reduce drug use a lot more by improving
lives than by passing laws. No, I don't know how to do that any more
than you do. But somehow bringing back the days when one could earn a
decent living with semi-skilled or unskilled labor couldn't hurt.
--
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:05:35 -0500, Bill wrote:
> The problem is that you can't legislate responsibility and common sense.
> Is legalizing Marijuana a path to a better society? Evidentally some
> states have decided that some use is okay. It seems like legalizing it
> would reduce by two-thirds the number of cards sold at charity Bingo!
Nor can you legislate morality. Seems folks could figure out that we
tried that before with Prohibition. All that did was make a bunch of
crooks rich.
Now we're doing the same with marijuana and other drugs - it's not
working there either. And the crooks we're enriching this time aren't
even from the US!
There will always be people looking for a way out of their miserable
existence. Some will turn to alcohol, some to other drugs. Some are
beyond help. But we'd probably reduce drug use a lot more by improving
lives than by passing laws. No, I don't know how to do that any more
than you do. But somehow bringing back the days when one could earn a
decent living with semi-skilled or unskilled labor couldn't hurt.
--
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:05:35 -0500, Bill wrote:
> The problem is that you can't legislate responsibility and common sense.
> Is legalizing Marijuana a path to a better society? Evidentally some
> states have decided that some use is okay. It seems like legalizing it
> would reduce by two-thirds the number of cards sold at charity Bingo!
Nor can you legislate morality. Seems folks could figure out that we
tried that before with Prohibition. All that did was make a bunch of
crooks rich.
Now we're doing the same with marijuana and other drugs - it's not
working there either. And the crooks we're enriching this time aren't
even from the US!
There will always be people looking for a way out of their miserable
existence. Some will turn to alcohol, some to other drugs. Some are
beyond help. But we'd probably reduce drug use a lot more by improving
lives than by passing laws. No, I don't know how to do that any more
than you do. But somehow bringing back the days when one could earn a
decent living with semi-skilled or unskilled labor couldn't hurt.
--
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:05:35 -0500, Bill wrote:
>
>> The problem is that you can't legislate responsibility and common
>> sense. Is legalizing Marijuana a path to a better society?
>> Evidentally some states have decided that some use is okay. It seems
>> like legalizing it would reduce by two-thirds the number of cards
>> sold at charity Bingo!
>
> Nor can you legislate morality. Seems folks could figure out that we
> tried that before with Prohibition. All that did was make a bunch of
> crooks rich.
>
> Now we're doing the same with marijuana and other drugs - it's not
> working there either. And the crooks we're enriching this time aren't
> even from the US!
>
> There will always be people looking for a way out of their miserable
> existence. Some will turn to alcohol, some to other drugs. Some are
> beyond help. But we'd probably reduce drug use a lot more by
> improving lives than by passing laws. No, I don't know how to do
> that any more than you do. But somehow bringing back the days when
> one could earn a decent living with semi-skilled or unskilled labor
> couldn't hurt.
Larry - tell us how you really feel about this...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Bill wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 11/7/2012 9:45 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>> On 11/7/2012 3:47 AM, Stuart wrote:
>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> CW <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for
>>>>> some very merry holidays.
>>>>
>>>> Then they are very foolish.
>>>>
>>>> A friend of mine has just retired from his job as a nurse looking after
>>>> the mentally ill. You don't even mention drugs to him, he has spent 25
>>>> years picking up the pieces, trying to help those damaged by drug use.
>>>>
>>>> There are no such things as "harmless" drugs, even alcohol takes its
>>>> toll
>>>> on people's lives, as I'm sure you are aware.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably
>>>> about
>>>> 1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is now an
>>>> alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading he
>>>> continues
>>>> to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him do it.
>>>
>>> Why does any of that make those states "foolish" for legalizing
>>> recreational marijuana? Do you think that's going to magically enable
>>> all kinds of people to start taking a drug they wouldn't otherwise
>>> take? People with addictive behaviors are going to find *something* to
>>> become addicted to, whether it's legal or not.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Actually making Marijuana legal will thin out our jails, add actual
>> competition to the drug cartels and make selling pot less profitable for
>> them, and for the "tens of millions" that use it to not have to keep
>> looking over their shoulder.
>
>
> The problem is that you can't legislate responsibility and common sense.
> Is legalizing Marijuana a path to a better society? Evidentally some
> states have decided that some use is okay. It seems like legalizing it
> would reduce by two-thirds the number of cards sold at charity Bingo!
I was just thinking, it might give High-Stakes Bingo a whole new twist.
The game has always seemed to take too long to me. With this variation,
you'd never get the hell out of there! ; )
On 11/8/2012 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>> On 11/7/2012 9:45 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>>> On 11/7/2012 3:47 AM, Stuart wrote:
>>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>> CW <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for
>>>>>> some very merry holidays.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then they are very foolish.
>>>>>
>>>>> A friend of mine has just retired from his job as a nurse looking
>>>>> after
>>>>> the mentally ill. You don't even mention drugs to him, he has spent 25
>>>>> years picking up the pieces, trying to help those damaged by drug use.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no such things as "harmless" drugs, even alcohol takes its
>>>>> toll
>>>>> on people's lives, as I'm sure you are aware.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably
>>>>> about
>>>>> 1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is now an
>>>>> alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading he
>>>>> continues
>>>>> to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him do it.
>>>>
>>>> Why does any of that make those states "foolish" for legalizing
>>>> recreational marijuana? Do you think that's going to magically enable
>>>> all kinds of people to start taking a drug they wouldn't otherwise
>>>> take? People with addictive behaviors are going to find *something* to
>>>> become addicted to, whether it's legal or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually making Marijuana legal will thin out our jails, add actual
>>> competition to the drug cartels and make selling pot less profitable for
>>> them, and for the "tens of millions" that use it to not have to keep
>>> looking over their shoulder.
>>
>>
>> The problem is that you can't legislate responsibility and common sense.
>> Is legalizing Marijuana a path to a better society? Evidentally some
>> states have decided that some use is okay. It seems like legalizing it
>> would reduce by two-thirds the number of cards sold at charity Bingo!
>
> I was just thinking, it might give High-Stakes Bingo a whole new twist.
> The game has always seemed to take too long to me. With this variation,
> you'd never get the hell out of there! ; )
>
>
I wold want the "munchie" consession in all the Bingo halls.
On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:47:37 +0000 (GMT), Stuart
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> CW <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Weed is now legal in Washington state and Colorado. Just in time for
>> some very merry holidays.
>
>Then they are very foolish.
>
>A friend of mine has just retired from his job as a nurse looking after
>the mentally ill. You don't even mention drugs to him, he has spent 25
>years picking up the pieces, trying to help those damaged by drug use.
>
>There are no such things as "harmless" drugs, even alcohol takes its toll
>on people's lives, as I'm sure you are aware.
>
>Sure, I enjoy an occasional beer as much as the next man, probably about
>1-2 pints per week on average but a former colleague of mine is now an
>alcoholic with liver damage. Despite all advice and pleading he continues
>to drink himself to death and it isn't nice watching him do it.
The real question, is weed worse than alcohol? Both were illegal at
one time, but since it could not be stopped, the government finally
made alcohol legal and taxed it. Will the use or abuse of weed
increase now? Plenty of arguments on both sides and yes, any
substance can and will be abused.
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
> Only if the feds look the other way.
>
> Lew
===================================================================================
"CW" wrote:> We'll see. Someone had to do it.
---------------------------------------That train left the station a long
time ago.There are MORE "medicinal" maijuana dispensaries in Los Angelesthan
there are Starbucks.Feds take out the big ones from time to time.Lew
======================================================================================================
It's been legal for medical use for years. The new law is for recreational
use.