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"Al Reid"

12/10/2003 4:38 PM

Router Replacement

Gang,

My 18 yr old craftsman router has developed a bad bearing and the unit needs
to be replaced. I am looking for suggestions and I would like something
that will fit my Craftsman router table. I also want both 1/4 and 1/2"
collets.

Thanks,

AL


This topic has 11 replies

HS

"Henry St.Pierre"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 4:38 PM

13/10/2003 1:42 AM

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>Would it be safe to buy another Craftsman if its really made by Ryobi?
>
>
> I gave my Craftsman away. I have a DeWalt 621 plunge and a Bosch 1617 EVS
> mounted in the table. Big difference IMO. If you are doing simple
> roundovers, the Craftsman is OK, but for more precise work, you will find
> other brands better.
> Ed
>
>
Crap Ed. The older Craftsman routers were fine. I'm still using one from
1969 and another from 1973. There never was and probably won't be a
precision issue with Craftsman or Ryobi. I borrowed a Ryobi 2HP from
another sub on a job recently. I was very impressed, so needing a new
router, I bought the router from HD for $99US. Never got to use it. None
of my jigs or bases came close to fitting it. I couldn't find template
guides or any accessories to fit it (not even Sears). Returned it unused
to HD for a refund. Still needed a router so I bought a PC 693VS combo
set from Amazon.com. $199US, but it had a nice edge guide and a $25US
rebate. Like I said before, the Ryobi was an exceptional router for the
price and you wouldn't go wrong buying one. It didn't match my need.
Hank



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Jim

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 4:38 PM

25/10/2003 6:34 AM

"Frank J. Vitale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I bought one of those fancy inserts to mount the router on. Sorry I
> can't find the name of it. But it had knock out centers for different
> size bits. I did this after the "Plexiglas" like stuff I bought at
> Woodworkers Warehouse warped and cracked. It was worth the money.
>
If the one with the knock out centers was Rausso (SP), I have that one too.
Isn't too bad except the inserts are VERY hard to take in and out. I wound
up shaving almost all of the locking lip off just to be able to get them in
and out without resorting to a hammer. After the lips were shaved, I've
had no problems with it. The other advantage is that it has holes
predrilled for most every kind of router. I used it with my craftsman till
it died and also for my current 3HP Makita plunge router.

FJ

"Frank J. Vitale"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 4:38 PM

15/10/2003 1:14 AM

I had the same problem about 8 or ten years ago. The cast aluminum table
did not lend itself to drilling new mounting holes and the current crapsman
router at the time only had an insert for the 1/4 bits which I was told to
avoid. I bought a Bosh 1613EVS and salvaged the fence from the router table
and built my own out of some 3/4" factory made melamine particle board.
DON'T get the 1/2" stuff. It doesn't work. I supported it on all 4 sides
with 2x3" lumber.

I bought one of those fancy inserts to mount the router on. Sorry I can't
find the name of it. But it had knock out centers for different size bits.
I did this after the "Plexiglas" like stuff I bought at Woodworkers
Warehouse warped and cracked. It was worth the money.

AR

"Al Reid"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 4:38 PM

12/10/2003 8:05 PM

I had been thinking about replacing the table, then I made a new fence and
up until today, I was doing ok. I need to do something soon as I need to
complete a couple of projects I am working on.

Would it be safe to buy another Craftsman if its really made by Ryobi?

Al

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Gang,
> >
> > My 18 yr old craftsman router has developed a bad bearing and the unit
> needs
> > to be replaced. I am looking for suggestions and I would like something
> > that will fit my Craftsman router table. I also want both 1/4 and 1/2"
> > collets.
>
> Craftsman is made by Ryobi today. It may fit your table, but no other
brand
> will unless you drill new holes or buy an adapter. As long as you are
> upgrading, why not look at a new table? If your is like mine, there are
> vastly better tables on th e market or can be easily made.
> Ed
>
>

dD

[email protected] (David Hall)

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 8:05 PM

13/10/2003 12:40 AM

>> Craftsman is made by Ryobi today. It may fit your table, but no other
>brand
>> will unless you drill new holes or buy an adapter.

The adaptor that Sears sells is pretty inexpensive. If it were me and I did not
want to chage the table, I would get a decent router and buy the Craftsman
adaptor. Then if or when you do change tables, it really isn't much of a loss.

Dave Hall

JT

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 8:05 PM

12/10/2003 8:11 PM

Sun, Oct 12, 2003, 8:05pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Al=A0Reid)
wants to know:
<snip> Would it be safe to buy another Craftsman if its really made by
Ryobi?

Dunno. I had one in my router table for about 5 years. Then it
quit, found a wire burned thru later, haven't gotten around to trying to
resolder that yet. But, bought a similar router, also Craftsman, and
it's lived in the table for about 4 years or so. I only use a trim bit,
don't adjust height. Gets used pretty hard, and does just what I need.
Your money, you choose.

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Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 4:38 PM

12/10/2003 7:25 PM

It is hard to go wrong with most any. I stay way away fform Skil, B&D,
maybe Ryobi although I had a sweet 1/4" plung that I still wish I had.
Hitachi is awesome and so most others.

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 18:58:23 -0400, "Morgans"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I had been thinking about replacing the table, then I made a new fence and
>> up until today, I was doing ok. I need to do something soon as I need to
>> complete a couple of projects I am working on.
>>
>> Would it be safe to buy another Craftsman if its really made by Ryobi?
>>
>> Al
>
>
> I am a Ryobi fan, most all the time, but I did have a bad experience with
>the Ryobi router a couple years ago. It had a blade lock that engaged two
>flat slots in the shaft, on top of the unit. I don't know if that is the
>way they are made today, but if it is, watch out.
>
>A bit got tightened too sharp, or it worked in tighter, and when I went to
>take it out, the locking mechanism slipped and then broke. All it was was a
>thin piece of mild steel engaging the slot, and it bent outward, and then
>broke. Badly under engineered, IMHO. I would not buy one if it had a shaft
>lock on top again.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 4:38 PM

12/10/2003 6:00 PM


"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Gang,
>
> My 18 yr old craftsman router has developed a bad bearing and the unit
needs
> to be replaced. I am looking for suggestions and I would like something
> that will fit my Craftsman router table. I also want both 1/4 and 1/2"
> collets.

Craftsman is made by Ryobi today. It may fit your table, but no other brand
will unless you drill new holes or buy an adapter. As long as you are
upgrading, why not look at a new table? If your is like mine, there are
vastly better tables on th e market or can be easily made.
Ed

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 4:38 PM

12/10/2003 6:58 PM


"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I had been thinking about replacing the table, then I made a new fence and
> up until today, I was doing ok. I need to do something soon as I need to
> complete a couple of projects I am working on.
>
> Would it be safe to buy another Craftsman if its really made by Ryobi?
>
> Al


I am a Ryobi fan, most all the time, but I did have a bad experience with
the Ryobi router a couple years ago. It had a blade lock that engaged two
flat slots in the shaft, on top of the unit. I don't know if that is the
way they are made today, but if it is, watch out.

A bit got tightened too sharp, or it worked in tighter, and when I went to
take it out, the locking mechanism slipped and then broke. All it was was a
thin piece of mild steel engaging the slot, and it bent outward, and then
broke. Badly under engineered, IMHO. I would not buy one if it had a shaft
lock on top again.
--
Jim in NC

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 4:38 PM

12/10/2003 10:42 PM


"Lawrence A. Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is hard to go wrong with most any. I stay way away fform Skil, B&D,
> maybe Ryobi although I had a sweet 1/4" plung that I still wish I had.

I'll bet I had that one, too. I think the bearings and or brushes went. I
used it VERY hard.
--
Jim in NC

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Al Reid" on 12/10/2003 4:38 PM

12/10/2003 8:14 PM


"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Would it be safe to buy another Craftsman if its really made by Ryobi?

I gave my Craftsman away. I have a DeWalt 621 plunge and a Bosch 1617 EVS
mounted in the table. Big difference IMO. If you are doing simple
roundovers, the Craftsman is OK, but for more precise work, you will find
other brands better.
Ed


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