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"mark"

30/12/2008 6:12 PM

Cherry trim staining

Greetings All,
I'm hoping to use cherry for casings on my doors and windows along with the
baseboard. We have cherry kitchen cabinets, matching flooring, so a little
continuity woud be nice. I realize this will be costly, having just come
from a hardwood supplier. I like the style of trim that I saw in one of the
home improvement mags a few years ago and would like to do the same here. My
first question is since the windows are made from pine and the jambs are
white pine, is it realistic to try staining the windows to match the cherry
trim? I know how unevenly pine takes stain, although wood conditioner does
help somewhat. What do others do when working with different species that
need to lok as similar as possible? Would a gel type stain work better with
these porous woods?

Secondly, to do this project, I will need a fair amount of 3/4 x 3 1/2
cherry. The supplier had a lot of 4/4 x 6, which would cause me to make a
lot of scrap. If I could buy 4/4 x 4, that would be ideal. Is looking into
online lumber suppliers worthwhile? I guess the downside is not being able
to screen the boards beforehand. Are the prices this way cheap enough to
offset the high scrap? Hope this makes sense.... TIA, Mark


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"mark"

in reply to "mark" on 30/12/2008 6:12 PM

30/12/2008 6:53 PM


"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> mark wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>> I'm hoping to use cherry for casings on my doors and windows along with
>> the baseboard. We have cherry kitchen cabinets, matching flooring, so a
>> little continuity woud be nice. I realize this will be costly, having
>> just come from a hardwood supplier. I like the style of trim that I saw
>> in one of the home improvement mags a few years ago and would like to do
>> the same here. My first question is since the windows are made from pine
>> and the jambs are white pine, is it realistic to try staining the windows
>> to match the cherry trim? I know how unevenly pine takes stain, although
>> wood conditioner does help somewhat. What do others do when working with
>> different species that need to lok as similar as possible? Would a gel
>> type stain work better with these porous woods?
>
> Skip the match, and work towards a color that will be complementary. Both
> the stained wood and the cherry will change over time, so any luck of a
> match will be temporary.
>
>>
>> Secondly, to do this project, I will need a fair amount of 3/4 x 3 1/2
>> cherry.
>
> Order S4S 3/4" x 3 1/2" wood from your local wood dealer. You'll probably
> pay by the linear foot, vs. board foot, but you'll save a bunch of time
> and waste less.
>
> Trust me, jointing and thicknessing gets old fast when doing lots of trim.
> Trim length boards are more difficult to joint and rip than typical
> furniture parts. Let the mill use the big, efficient machines they have
> to make your job easier.
I'm all for efficiency, but then the wife will ask why I bought a DJ20,
DW735, etc....

Mb

"MikeWhy"

in reply to "mark" on 30/12/2008 6:12 PM

30/12/2008 6:31 PM

"mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Secondly, to do this project, I will need a fair amount of 3/4 x 3 1/2
> cherry. The supplier had a lot of 4/4 x 6, which would cause me to make a
> lot of scrap. If I could buy 4/4 x 4, that would be ideal. Is looking into
> online lumber suppliers worthwhile? I guess the downside is not being able
> to screen the boards beforehand. Are the prices this way cheap enough to
> offset the high scrap? Hope this makes sense.... TIA, Mark

There's a small upcharge for 8"+ widths. Some places (Hearne Hardwoods is
one) will UPS smaller orders. Add it together, though, it's about the same
40% waste. Maybe get creative with the skinny sticks?

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "mark" on 30/12/2008 6:12 PM

30/12/2008 8:00 PM

mark wrote:
> I'm all for efficiency, but then the wife will ask why I bought a DJ20,
> DW735, etc....


Have fun jointing and ripping 8, 10, and 12 foot boards!

I have a DJ-20, too... <G>

Am

ALurker

in reply to "mark" on 30/12/2008 6:12 PM

30/12/2008 9:25 PM

B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> mark wrote:
>> I'm all for efficiency, but then the wife will ask why I bought a
>> DJ20,
>> DW735, etc....
>
>
> Have fun jointing and ripping 8, 10, and 12 foot boards!
>
> I have a DJ-20, too... <G>

I have a DJ-20 too (Thanks for the tip Barry). Guess he will need his wife's help with the 10 & 12 footers.
<G>

Jerry
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nn

in reply to "mark" on 30/12/2008 6:12 PM

31/12/2008 12:19 AM

On Dec 30, 6:37=A0pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:

> Skip the match, and work towards a color that will be complementary.
> Both the stained wood and the cherry will change over time, so any luck
> of a match will be temporary.

Ahhhh.... once again a voice of experience is heard.

I usually tell my clients (even with some paints) "it will get close,
but not match. Even if it matches now, it may not match in just a few
months. So rather than have an 'almost' match that looks bad, let's
pick a color that makes it look like we did it on purpose".

It saves us both grief.

Robert

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "mark" on 30/12/2008 6:12 PM

30/12/2008 7:37 PM

mark wrote:
> Greetings All,
> I'm hoping to use cherry for casings on my doors and windows along with the
> baseboard. We have cherry kitchen cabinets, matching flooring, so a little
> continuity woud be nice. I realize this will be costly, having just come
> from a hardwood supplier. I like the style of trim that I saw in one of the
> home improvement mags a few years ago and would like to do the same here. My
> first question is since the windows are made from pine and the jambs are
> white pine, is it realistic to try staining the windows to match the cherry
> trim? I know how unevenly pine takes stain, although wood conditioner does
> help somewhat. What do others do when working with different species that
> need to lok as similar as possible? Would a gel type stain work better with
> these porous woods?

Skip the match, and work towards a color that will be complementary.
Both the stained wood and the cherry will change over time, so any luck
of a match will be temporary.

>
> Secondly, to do this project, I will need a fair amount of 3/4 x 3 1/2
> cherry.

Order S4S 3/4" x 3 1/2" wood from your local wood dealer. You'll
probably pay by the linear foot, vs. board foot, but you'll save a bunch
of time and waste less.

Trust me, jointing and thicknessing gets old fast when doing lots of
trim. Trim length boards are more difficult to joint and rip than
typical furniture parts. Let the mill use the big, efficient machines
they have to make your job easier.


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