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"John"

06/06/2005 6:56 PM

double sided tape?

Hello Everyone,

I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do not
want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe sided
tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?

TIA John


This topic has 20 replies

JC

"Joe C"

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

10/06/2005 1:32 PM

Not poster tape, paster tape. Printers use them to attach two rolls of 100"
wide paper running at 7,000fpm on the fly. It is great stuff for attaching
templates. And it's *very* thin. Not at all like poster tape. More like
masking tape thickness.

Joe C.


"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Poster tape has a foam core and is totally unsuitable.
>
> "Joe C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Know any printers? Ask them for a couple rolls of paster tape.
>>
>> jc
>>
>> "John" <jgerhardt@g> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Hello Everyone,
>> >
>> > I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
>> > attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do
>> > not want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried
> doulbe
>> > sided tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>> >
>> > TIA John
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

ww

"woodworker88"

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

06/06/2005 9:22 PM

I use it at the machine shop to hold annoying parts and parallels in
place while tightening the vise. Keeps them from shifting or pinching
fingers while changing vise settings. I also sometimes use it to
temporarily attach a paper template to keep track of dimensions.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

13/06/2005 9:29 AM

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 19:45:48 -0400, LP <[email protected]> wrote:

>The other is a woven fibreglass material that holds quite well and,
>with it, it's a little easier to pry your pieces apart.

This is the same stuff used to hold Canada together

http://www.googlesightseeing.com/2005/06/07/scotch-tape/

PC

Patrick Conroy

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

13/06/2005 5:22 PM

"Joe C" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Were you running offset or gravure? Worked many a summer and

Offset. This was a small shop. Three presses total, only one was four
color. You started as a jogger ($3.25/hr) then got promoted to the paper
rolls ($4.25/hr). Only two duties were: don't run out of paper and don't
run out of ink.

I like the enamel stock best - it lasted the longest. The craft stock was
awful - seems like I no sooner mounted one roll than it was time to swing
another into place.

>
> By the way, I'm sure the material handlers never bribed you to miss
> the occasional paster on a really crazy day, right? right??? ;-)

Yeah - and it's a deep secret I carry about the few times I took the web
down myself for a break from the madness.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

07/06/2005 1:37 AM

Hax Planx wrote:
> John says...
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
>> attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do not
>> want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe sided
>> tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>>
>> TIA John
>
> The Lee Valley tape is some sticky stuff. The most annoying thing about
> it is getting the covering off. I usually use two small squares. At

I have found that it is easier to start the cover peeling by spearing
it at a shallow angle with my knife point, then lifting. Nearly
impossible to pick the edge up with my clumsy fingers.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Real women don't deflate when you bite
them.





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Godzilla

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

06/06/2005 6:45 PM

John wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need
> to attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow
> but do not want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone
> tried doulbe sided tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>
> TIA John

Of late, I have been making heavy use of double sided tape when
working at the router table. I fashioned several different sized
pieces of hardwood plywood, inserted t-nuts and use screw-in handles.
This way, I can lower the piece that I am working on onto a spinning
bit and keep my fingers at a safe distance. The tape that I use comes
from Woodhaven. I have no experience with LV turners tape, but it
sounds like a viable choice if it is used on lathes. My only negative
happenings have been with double sided carpet tape, which has parted
company in a humid environment at the most inoportune moments.

HTH

Godzilla

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

07/06/2005 2:38 AM

The stuff I use comes from the local machinists supply place. 3M paper
based. Use at work (in a machine shop) and at home. BTW, did you know that
it will hold a part for milling?

"Hax Planx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John says...
>
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
> > attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do
not
> > want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe
sided
> > tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
> >
> > TIA John
>
> The Lee Valley tape is some sticky stuff. The most annoying thing about
> it is getting the covering off. I usually use two small squares. At
> the rate I'm using it, it will last a couple years. It won't let loose
> until you pry it apart, assuming you don't leave sawdust on the wood or
> something equally ridiculous.

Ll

LP

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

06/06/2005 7:45 PM

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:56:24 -0400, "John" <jgerhardt@g> wrote:

>Hello Everyone,
>
>I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
>attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do not
>want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe sided
>tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>
>TIA John
>
Just go to Home Depot where they have, in the flooring section, two
different kinds of carpet tape.

One is a very thin plastic material and while it holds well it's
sometimes difficult to make it release.

The other is a woven fibreglass material that holds quite well and,
with it, it's a little easier to pry your pieces apart.

It takes surprisingly little of this stuff to hold parts in place for
pattern routing. I usually dont tape more than about 15% of the
surface area.

HP

Hax Planx

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

06/06/2005 8:21 PM

John says...

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
> attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do not
> want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe sided
> tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>
> TIA John

The Lee Valley tape is some sticky stuff. The most annoying thing about
it is getting the covering off. I usually use two small squares. At
the rate I'm using it, it will last a couple years. It won't let loose
until you pry it apart, assuming you don't leave sawdust on the wood or
something equally ridiculous.

HP

Hax Planx

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

07/06/2005 2:10 AM

Gerald Ross says...

> I have found that it is easier to start the cover peeling by spearing
> it at a shallow angle with my knife point, then lifting. Nearly
> impossible to pick the edge up with my clumsy fingers.

Thanks. That sounds like a good tip.

JC

"Joe C"

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

10/06/2005 4:14 AM

Know any printers? Ask them for a couple rolls of paster tape.

jc

"John" <jgerhardt@g> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
> attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do
> not want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe
> sided tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>
> TIA John
>

LD

"Les Derusha"

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

06/06/2005 8:22 PM

Use the cloth back double sided carpet tape, the "normal" (no cloth doesn't
stick all that well.

"John" <jgerhardt@g> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
> attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do
> not want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe
> sided tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>
> TIA John
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

10/06/2005 4:54 AM

Poster tape has a foam core and is totally unsuitable.

"Joe C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Know any printers? Ask them for a couple rolls of paster tape.
>
> jc
>
> "John" <jgerhardt@g> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
> > attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do
> > not want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried
doulbe
> > sided tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
> >
> > TIA John
> >
>
>

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

07/06/2005 1:21 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "John" <jgerhardt@g> wrote:
>Hello Everyone,
>
>I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
>attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do not
>want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe sided
>tape?

Yep, works great. Just don't use too *much* or you'll break your template
trying to separate them. Three-inch strips, four to six inches apart, should
be plenty.

>Is the LV turners tape the way to go?

I wouldn't bother. I just use double-sided carpet tape from Lowe's, not even
the heavy-duty stuff, just the regular. Never any problems, other than the
first time when I ran a strip the entire length of the template because I
feared that less than that wouldn't be enough to hold it down. Then I spend
the next twenty minutes separating the workpiece and the template.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

dz

david zaret

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

07/06/2005 12:29 AM

i'm a biiig fan of the lee valley double-stick tape. i've tried the
carpet tape from home depot ... no more. lee valley all the way. it's
far superior imho.

--- dz


John wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
> attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do not
> want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe sided
> tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>
> TIA John
>
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

08/06/2005 12:45 AM

Slice it at an angle across the middle of the tape. Lift edges from there
(with knife point).

"Gerald Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hax Planx wrote:
> > John says...
> >
> >> Hello Everyone,
> >>
> >> I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
> >> attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do
not
> >> want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe
sided
> >> tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
> >>
> >> TIA John
> >
> > The Lee Valley tape is some sticky stuff. The most annoying thing about
> > it is getting the covering off. I usually use two small squares. At
>
> I have found that it is easier to start the cover peeling by spearing
> it at a shallow angle with my knife point, then lifting. Nearly
> impossible to pick the edge up with my clumsy fingers.
>
> --
> Gerald Ross
> Cochran, GA
>
> Real women don't deflate when you bite
> them.
>
>
>
>
>
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"Joe C"

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

10/06/2005 4:42 PM

"Patrick Conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Joe C" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>>
>> Not poster tape, paster tape. Printers use them to attach two rolls
>> of 100" wide paper running at 7,000fpm on the fly. It is great stuff
>
>
> When I worked the webpress - that was a very tense time. Try to run the
> roll down low enough to minimize waste but not to run it out.
>
> I was amazed at how rarely the web broke during a roll change.

Were you running offset or gravure? Worked many a summer and Christmas
break on the National Geographic presses, both offset (ads and covers) and
gravure (articles), mostly as material handler. Interesting stuff.

By the way, I'm sure the material handlers never bribed you to miss the
occasional paster on a really crazy day, right? right??? ;-)

jc

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

10/06/2005 2:49 AM

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:56:24 -0400, "John" <jgerhardt@g> wrote:

>Hello Everyone,
>
>I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
>attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do not
>want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe sided
>tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>
>TIA John
>

I have a roll of carpet tape. It's expensive, but it is lasting a
long long time and I'm amazed how often I use it and how strong it
holds without marking the stock. Sometime taking pieces apart can
take some doing.

PC

Patrick Conroy

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

10/06/2005 4:23 PM

"Joe C" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
>
> Not poster tape, paster tape. Printers use them to attach two rolls
> of 100" wide paper running at 7,000fpm on the fly. It is great stuff


When I worked the webpress - that was a very tense time. Try to run the
roll down low enough to minimize waste but not to run it out.

I was amazed at how rarely the web broke during a roll change.

Da

DIYGUY

in reply to "John" on 06/06/2005 6:56 PM

06/06/2005 8:17 PM

John wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am going to use a pilot flush trim bit for the first time. I need to
> attached my work peice to the template for the bearing to follow but do not
> want to put fastener holes in the work peice. Has anyone tried doulbe sided
> tape? Is the LV turners tape the way to go?
>
> TIA John
>
>
Get yourself as much double-sided tape as your budget can reasonably
afford. The stuff is useful in so many ways you will be astounded that
you were ever able to get along without it. Only drawback is that it is
pricey. But then, what is the price of a finger?


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