never really liked live edge but i see it all over the place
some like it some do not
years ago when i first saw live edge table i liked it but now i look
and think it needs to be completed
there are some small number of pieces that can look nice with a live
edge
some turnings can look pleasing
fad or for real and here to stay
it has been long for a fad
On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:55:25 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> years ago when i first saw live edge table i liked it but now i look=20
and think it needs to be completed=20
What is there to be completed? I'm at a complete (sic) loss, as to what y=
ou mean by "it" not being complete.
>=20
> fad or for real and here to stay
>=20
> it has been long for a fad
So, now you're an expert on identifying what is a fad or not? Your pet ro=
ck must be getting lonely.
Should we (automatons), all, decorate our dwellings the same way?
One's personal/individual or group (family) preference is not a fad. My pe=
rspective for (sometimes) favoring a live edge design is in the realm of de=
corating, to a significant extent. Decorating a house, office, camp, cott=
age, bungalow, etc. is not a fad, though "tastes" can change over time. Y=
ou don't (necessarily) decorate a hunting camp or summer cottage the same a=
s your permanent home, office, etc.
Your approach to this whole matter, or why, is incomprehensible and ludicro=
us!
Sonny
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:37:16 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 6/18/2016 4:52 PM, Markem wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:10:13 -0700, Electric Comet
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:58:11 -0400
>>> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard
>>>> someone ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it
>>>> was not complete.
>>>
>>>
>>> i like the look of sharp lines created with tools or machines juxtaposed
>>> against the random patterns in the wood
>>>
>>> i cannot recall ever seeing live edge furniture in a home
>>>
>>> not even a man cave
>>
>> Perhaps your limited exposure, limits your vision.
>>
>
>
>You don't see live edge on furniture from Ikea.
Live-edge particle board? Maybe someone should suggest it. ;-)
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:41:11 -0400, Mike Marlow
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>
>> One more question. I just built a TV stand out of birds eye cherry. Do
>> I need a primer if I paint it with latex+ plan to use a roller for a
>> smooth finish.
>>
>
>No - a primer is not necessary. Just apply additional coats of latex
>until you get a good build. Then knock it down with 80 grit and follow
>that with repeated rubbing down with a brown paper bag until you get the
>desired level of finish. Roller or foam pad will work, as will even a
>cheap brush. Might just take another brown paper bag or two to get to
>the desired finish.
>
>Hope this helps...
Now you paint then apply the brown paper bag so it sticks right?
On 6/17/2016 8:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/17/2016 12:35 PM, Sonny wrote:
>> On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:55:25 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>>
>>> years ago when i first saw live edge table i liked it but now i look
>> and think it needs to be completed
>>
>> What is there to be completed? I'm at a complete (sic) loss, as to
>> what you mean by "it" not being complete.
>>
>
> Many people have no idea what live edge is let alone appreciate it. I
> was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard someone
> ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it was not
> complete.
>
A live edge not only helps make a piece look natural and unique it is
like a certificate of authenticity. ;~)
On 6/18/2016 4:52 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:10:13 -0700, Electric Comet
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:58:11 -0400
>> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard
>>> someone ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it
>>> was not complete.
>>
>>
>> i like the look of sharp lines created with tools or machines juxtaposed
>> against the random patterns in the wood
>>
>> i cannot recall ever seeing live edge furniture in a home
>>
>> not even a man cave
>
> Perhaps your limited exposure, limits your vision.
>
You don't see live edge on furniture from Ikea.
krw <[email protected]> writes:
>On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 16:52:46 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:10:13 -0700, Electric Comet
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:58:11 -0400
>>>Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard
>>>> someone ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it
>>>> was not complete.
>>>
>>>
>>>i like the look of sharp lines created with tools or machines juxtaposed
>>>against the random patterns in the wood
>>>
>>>i cannot recall ever seeing live edge furniture in a home
>>>
>>>not even a man cave
>>
>>Perhaps your limited exposure, limits your vision.
>
>I tend to see it in camps and log cabins, and rarely in "mid century
>modern" homes. ;-)
SFMoma, which just had a grand opening of their new exhibit
space, is building out a ground-floor restaurant; all the tables
are live-edge.
It's very common in the shops in Monterey and Carmel to find live-edge
redwood burl furniture.
I've a live-edge redwood burl coffee table.
Live-edge claro walnut slabs: http://www.bakerhardwoods.com/
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 16:52:46 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:10:13 -0700, Electric Comet
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:58:11 -0400
>>Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard
>>> someone ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it
>>> was not complete.
>>
>>
>>i like the look of sharp lines created with tools or machines juxtaposed
>>against the random patterns in the wood
>>
>>i cannot recall ever seeing live edge furniture in a home
>>
>>not even a man cave
>
>Perhaps your limited exposure, limits your vision.
I tend to see it in camps and log cabins, and rarely in "mid century
modern" homes. ;-)
On 6/17/2016 12:35 PM, Sonny wrote:
> On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 10:55:25 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>
>> years ago when i first saw live edge table i liked it but now i look
> and think it needs to be completed
>
> What is there to be completed? I'm at a complete (sic) loss, as to what you mean by "it" not being complete.
>
Many people have no idea what live edge is let alone appreciate it. I
was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard someone
ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it was not
complete.
On 6/18/2016 11:08 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 8:18:00 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>> On 2016-06-18, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Many people have no idea what live edge is let alone appreciate it.
>>
>> Myself being one of them. But, I do appreciate yer bringing it up and
>> making folks aware of such a thing.
>>
>
> Hmmmm!? "... appreciate it." Appreciate what? "Aware of such." What is the awareness? Aware of what, exactly? If I may partially answer... it's a form of art, visual arts.
>
> I may have a "weird" perspective, but since grade school, I've been a naturalist. My first major, in college, was Wildlife Boiology. Many ideas of design are rooted in nature's designs. I supsect there's some basic aesthetics, in natural designs, that people gravitate to, hence lending themselves to having these elements within their home, offices, etc.
>
> I don't always strive to have something of nature's design incorporated into a project, but when I do, and when I suspect someone else does, also, then, when we succeed in presenting that design, there's an even more appreciation of success, than otherwise.
Hmm, you sound a bit defensive. While you consider yourself a naturist,
others consider a live edge an ugly detraction. As I said, many people
are unaware of such things. Check out the bowls at Bed Bath & Beyond or
Kohs. You can go through life and never see a turning or table top with
a live edge.
One more question. I just built a TV stand out of birds eye cherry. Do
I need a primer if I paint it with latex+ plan to use a roller for a
smooth finish.
On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 8:18:00 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-06-18, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> > Many people have no idea what live edge is let alone appreciate it. =20
>=20
> Myself being one of them. But, I do appreciate yer bringing it up and
> making folks aware of such a thing. =20
>=20
Hmmmm!? "... appreciate it." Appreciate what? "Aware of such." What is =
the awareness? Aware of what, exactly? If I may partially answer... it's=
a form of art, visual arts.
I may have a "weird" perspective, but since grade school, I've been a natur=
alist. My first major, in college, was Wildlife Boiology. Many ideas of =
design are rooted in nature's designs. I supsect there's some basic aesth=
etics, in natural designs, that people gravitate to, hence lending themselv=
es to having these elements within their home, offices, etc.
I don't always strive to have something of nature's design incorporated int=
o a project, but when I do, and when I suspect someone else does, also, the=
n, when we succeed in presenting that design, there's an even more apprecia=
tion of success, than otherwise.
The description, in the Wiki link, mentions the "style" being western and/o=
r rustic. To me, that's kind of generic. I tend to think of it more as =
back-to-basics, as for as design elements, re: Picasso, etal.
When a live edge piece has knots and other figured elements, then "we" see =
the surreal elements (surrealism art forms - re: Dali) in it.
Don't consider just the edge, being natural. Look at the whole project, t=
o see what ALL is there.... whether it's a table, a picture, a sculpture, a=
building, etc.
The task is not always to build a structure, but to create or reveal someth=
ing you can't simply touch. Often times, nature already has the elements. =
We just have to find them or stumble upon them, then use them. There's =
a reason why George Nakashima is famous for his woodwork, but Mother Nature=
deserves some of the credit, too.
Sonny
On 2016-06-18, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> Many people have no idea what live edge is let alone appreciate it.
Myself being one of them. But, I do appreciate yer bringing it up and
making folks aware of such a thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_edge
Lotta info on the web, natch. ;)
nb
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:25:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 6/18/2016 11:08 AM, Sonny wrote:
>> On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 8:18:00 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>>> On 2016-06-18, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Many people have no idea what live edge is let alone appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Myself being one of them. But, I do appreciate yer bringing it up and
>>> making folks aware of such a thing.
>>>
>>
>> Hmmmm!? "... appreciate it." Appreciate what? "Aware of such." What is the awareness? Aware of what, exactly? If I may partially answer... it's a form of art, visual arts.
>>
>> I may have a "weird" perspective, but since grade school, I've been a naturalist. My first major, in college, was Wildlife Boiology. Many ideas of design are rooted in nature's designs. I supsect there's some basic aesthetics, in natural designs, that people gravitate to, hence lending themselves to having these elements within their home, offices, etc.
>>
>> I don't always strive to have something of nature's design incorporated into a project, but when I do, and when I suspect someone else does, also, then, when we succeed in presenting that design, there's an even more appreciation of success, than otherwise.
>
>Hmm, you sound a bit defensive. While you consider yourself a naturist,
>others consider a live edge an ugly detraction. As I said, many people
>are unaware of such things. Check out the bowls at Bed Bath & Beyond or
>Kohs. You can go through life and never see a turning or table top with
>a live edge.
That's because neither robots or Chinese sweatshops make live-edge
furniture. ;-) You'll often see it in artsy-craftsy sorts of stores
and shows, though.
>
>One more question. I just built a TV stand out of birds eye cherry. Do
>I need a primer if I paint it with latex+ plan to use a roller for a
>smooth finish.
Any cherry needs red paint, at least six coats of latex, is preferred.
Oh, wait, it birds eye may be black cherry.
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:27:18 -0400, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 16:52:46 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:10:13 -0700, Electric Comet
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:58:11 -0400
>>>Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard
>>>> someone ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it
>>>> was not complete.
>>>
>>>
>>>i like the look of sharp lines created with tools or machines juxtaposed
>>>against the random patterns in the wood
>>>
>>>i cannot recall ever seeing live edge furniture in a home
>>>
>>>not even a man cave
>>
>>Perhaps your limited exposure, limits your vision.
>
>I tend to see it in camps and log cabins, and rarely in "mid century
>modern" homes. ;-)
I have seen a few in high end office space and conference rooms.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:58:11 -0400
Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard
> someone ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it
> was not complete.
i like the look of sharp lines created with tools or machines juxtaposed
against the random patterns in the wood
i cannot recall ever seeing live edge furniture in a home
not even a man cave
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> One more question. I just built a TV stand out of birds eye cherry. Do
> I need a primer if I paint it with latex+ plan to use a roller for a
> smooth finish.
>
No - a primer is not necessary. Just apply additional coats of latex
until you get a good build. Then knock it down with 80 grit and follow
that with repeated rubbing down with a brown paper bag until you get the
desired level of finish. Roller or foam pad will work, as will even a
cheap brush. Might just take another brown paper bag or two to get to
the desired finish.
Hope this helps...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Markem wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:41:11 -0400, Mike Marlow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> One more question. I just built a TV stand out of birds eye cherry. Do
>>> I need a primer if I paint it with latex+ plan to use a roller for a
>>> smooth finish.
>>>
>>
>> No - a primer is not necessary. Just apply additional coats of latex
>> until you get a good build. Then knock it down with 80 grit and follow
>> that with repeated rubbing down with a brown paper bag until you get the
>> desired level of finish. Roller or foam pad will work, as will even a
>> cheap brush. Might just take another brown paper bag or two to get to
>> the desired finish.
>>
>> Hope this helps...
>
> Now you paint then apply the brown paper bag so it sticks right?
>
That's if you want the decoupage finish...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 21:12:05 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:27:18 -0400, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 16:52:46 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:10:13 -0700, Electric Comet
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:58:11 -0400
>>>>Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard
>>>>> someone ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it
>>>>> was not complete.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>i like the look of sharp lines created with tools or machines juxtaposed
>>>>against the random patterns in the wood
>>>>
>>>>i cannot recall ever seeing live edge furniture in a home
>>>>
>>>>not even a man cave
>>>
>>>Perhaps your limited exposure, limits your vision.
>>
>>I tend to see it in camps and log cabins, and rarely in "mid century
>>modern" homes. ;-)
>
>I have seen a few in high end office space and conference rooms.
Yes, and doctor's offices. High-end being the key phrase. They're
not mass produced in China so it tends to be expensive. It's not
surprising that EC hasn't seen it anywhere. He can't even afford a
shift key.
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:10:13 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:58:11 -0400
>Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I was in a shop that had some turned bowls for sale and overheard
>> someone ask "why don't they trim off the ugly edge?" They thought it
>> was not complete.
>
>
>i like the look of sharp lines created with tools or machines juxtaposed
>against the random patterns in the wood
>
>i cannot recall ever seeing live edge furniture in a home
>
>not even a man cave
Perhaps your limited exposure, limits your vision.