Lee Valley does it again!

In article <8Mptd.21945$l%[email protected]>, Robin Lee
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
> cable, AND batteries for the remote

My older son, the computer geek, told me recently that Sony (?) will be
releasing a new format /with/ /no/ /backward/ /compatability/ which
will render most of those players obsolete VERY SOON.

Gerry

> Leonard then went on to develope several other devices. One device
> was designed to hold surgical incisions open, during procedures while
> working alone


Hey, this is great. Who else but Lee Valley would be pioneering a new era of
do-it-yourself home surgery. Next time I need a surgical procedure I'll
order the soon-to-be-released workbench to surgical table conversion kit and
save myself $10,000 or more in medical bills.

Dear Robin (Lee)

I just purchased a couple of the Grr-Ripper instructional DVDs from
your web site. I don't think that they have shipped yet. If I , and
several others, request a DVD player to go along with them, what are my
odds of getting one? You could ship the items together to reduce
shipping costs.

Who's with me?

Thank you, (Another satisfied customer in MN)

Eric

Disclaimer: The above was written tongue in cheek. It is not intended
to be taken seriously.

SawDust wrote:
> Just a little side note:
>
> Last evening on television, I was watching "Discovery" a science
> program and they featured Lenord Lee. After Leonard retired from
> Lee Valley he opened a small design firm in Almonte Ontario. Just to
> the south of Ottawa. I believe the firms name is Canics. The
> firm primarily designs tools etc.
>
> Leonard was approached by a medical doctor, who had previously
> purchase numerous items from Lee Valley. The doctor "who's name
> escapes me" asked Lenord to take a look at a problem he was having.
> The problem was the standard flat blade scalpal which was originally
> designed in 1915 and had several problems.
>
> For example: The way the scalpal was held in the hand relied on the
> muscle control and nervous system of the forearm, which was not as
> responsive and lacked the sensitivity of the human hand. Likewise,
> for staff, changing the blade on the scalpal was a difficult and
> dangerous procedure.
>
> End result; Leonard designed a more ergonomic handle with an
ejection
> mechanism which would safely eject the blade when it was changed.
>
> Leonard then went on to develope several other devices. One device
> was designed to hold surgical incisions open, during procedures while
> working alone, and/or without cluttering up the work area by
requiring
> a second set of hands to assist or by using other instruments.
>
> Another device was developed to do the opposite, by assisting with
the
> closing of incisions during procedures and also closing surgical
> wounds gradually over a period of time, allowing the skin to strech.
> In effect, it eliminates the problem of sutures tearing out of the
> skin, when the skin has been stretched to close a wound.
>
> I thought I'd pass this along, simply because the contribution
Leonard
> Lee and Lee Valley (Robin) have made is quite considerable, and
> frankly I thought the story was quite interesting.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:21:12 -0700, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Hiya Folks,
> >I purchased their MKII sharpening system around 9-10 months ago.
It's
> >worked very well
> >for me and I'm glad I plunked down the cash.
> >
> >Today, I get a USPS Priority package in the mail from Lee Valley
which is
> >odd because I haven't
> >ordered anything from them recently. Inside is a note explaining
that
> >several owners of the same
> >sharpener requested some sort of cover for it. Consequently, Lee
Valley put
> >together a cover of nylon
> >and sent me one. Even though I bought the thing ages ago. There
aren't
> >many companies that
> >have this level of service.
> >
> >As long as I'm buying stuff they sell, Lee Valley will be the first
place I
> >look!
> >Thanks Rob!
> >
> >Cheers,
> >cc
> >

Alright. I'll show you.

If I order three Grr-Ripper systems from you at a savings of $10 each
over everywhere else, I can buy my own DVD player at Wal-Mart or Best
Buy or something. How do you like them apples? (US saying)

Eric

This new beta Google thing took out the fact that my last message was a
reply to Robin Lee.

Cheers back Robin,

Eric

Sounds like the DVD betamax

On 7 Dec 2004 05:20:58 -0800, robdingnagian1 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Robin (Lee)
>
> I just purchased a couple of the Grr-Ripper instructional DVDs from
> your web site. I don't think that they have shipped yet. If I , and
> several others, request a DVD player to go along with them, what are my
> odds of getting one? You could ship the items together to reduce
> shipping costs.

I think he only offers that service to his Canadianian customers.

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:02:44 -0500, Robin Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> BTW - I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
> cable, AND batteries for the remote...at that price - I'm surprised it came
> in a box....

And what's _really_ impressive/surprising, is that they can make the
darn thing in China (or wherever China is outsourcing jobs to these
days), package it, ship it, warehouse it, ship it again, stock it,
and sell it, and everyone along the line makes some money.

Greg Ostrom wrote:

> Doctors aren't going to like that.  You need to justify the extra guys in
> the OR so they can get paid!
> Featherbedding is not limited to the railroad...LOL

As a representative of the International Brotherhood of Firemen and Caboose
Cleaners I charge you with heresy.

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G.E.R.R.Y. wrote:

> My older son, the computer geek, told me recently that Sony (?) will be
> releasing a new format /with/ /no/ /backward/ /compatability/ which
> will render most of those players obsolete VERY SOON.

It's true that there's a new VHS vs. Beta thing coming for the next
generation high definition big capacity discs, but Sony's technology is
just one of the new standards. One of them will win. The early adopters
who buy the wrong machine will be screwed.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 22:20:49 -0500, Stacey <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are two groups coming out with blue laser DVD's. Sony and Toshiba.
> Both will play current DVD's (of which there are two formats DVD+ and DVD-).
> The question is whether they will play each other's formats.. that is
> undecided. To reiterate.. they WILL be backward compatible.

...for a while...

robdingnagian1 wrote:
> Sounds like the DVD betamax

Naw, they're bringing back 8 tracks.

Dave in Fairfax
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"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> It's true that there's a new VHS vs. Beta thing coming for the next
> generation high definition big capacity discs, but Sony's technology is
> just one of the new standards. One of them will win. The early adopters
> who buy the wrong machine will be screwed.

Not if you are careful in choosing. Years ago many people were buying the
Commodore computer. I figured it was foolish and instead, bought the TI
44a. After all, Texas Instrument would be making those computers and
supporting them for years to come. Maybe I should upgrade?

"robdingnagian1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dear Robin (Lee)
>
> I just purchased a couple of the Grr-Ripper instructional DVDs from
> your web site. I don't think that they have shipped yet. If I , and
> several others, request a DVD player to go along with them, what are my
> odds of getting one? You could ship the items together to reduce
> shipping costs.
>
> Who's with me?
>
> Thank you, (Another satisfied customer in MN)
>
> Eric
>
> Disclaimer: The above was written tongue in cheek. It is not intended
> to be taken seriously.
>

Hi Eric -

Sorry - but we don't do the tailed stuff....:)

BTW - I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
cable, AND batteries for the remote...at that price - I'm surprised it came
in a box....

Cheers -

Rob

There are two groups coming out with blue laser DVD's. Sony and Toshiba.
Both will play current DVD's (of which there are two formats DVD+ and DVD-).
The question is whether they will play each other's formats.. that is
undecided. To reiterate.. they WILL be backward compatible.
"G.E.R.R.Y." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:081220041153544546%[email protected]...
> In article <8Mptd.21945$l%[email protected]>, Robin Lee
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I can't believe the price of DVD players... $39 CDN, with a remote, a
>> cable, AND batteries for the remote
>
> My older son, the computer geek, told me recently that Sony (?) will be
> releasing a new format /with/ /no/ /backward/ /compatability/ which
> will render most of those players obsolete VERY SOON.
>
> Gerry

Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> It was the TI99-4A and I went with it also. Advertised by Bill
> Cosby. I also bought property advertised by Pat Boone. Sucks to be us.
>
> - Doug
>

Still got mine in the basement. Along with a bunch of other useless crap.
But it served its purpose, I got my first taste of programming on that
sucker.

Isn't Boone (or someone similar) now hawking gold (coins?) on the TV? Maybe
I should get some of those ....

Regards,
JT

Doctors aren't going to like that. You need to justify the extra guys in
the OR so they can get paid!
Featherbedding is not limited to the railroad...LOL

> Leonard then went on to develope several other devices. One device
> was designed to hold surgical incisions open, during procedures while
> working alone, and/or without cluttering up the work area by requiring
> a second set of hands to assist or by using other instruments.

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:21:12 -0700, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hiya Folks,
>I purchased their MKII sharpening system around 9-10 months ago. It's
>worked very well
>for me and I'm glad I plunked down the cash.
>
>Today, I get a USPS Priority package in the mail from Lee Valley which is
>odd because I haven't
>ordered anything from them recently. Inside is a note explaining that
>several owners of the same
>sharpener requested some sort of cover for it. Consequently, Lee Valley put
>together a cover of nylon
>and sent me one. Even though I bought the thing ages ago. There aren't
>many companies that
>have this level of service.
>
>As long as I'm buying stuff they sell, Lee Valley will be the first place I
>look!
>Thanks Rob!
>
>Cheers,
>cc
>
that's pretty impressive...
what is most impressive to me is that they could have sent you a
special deal at maybe 50% off as a "thank you" for being a customer,
and you would probably think it was nice of them..

Good to see some companies still look for and appreciate repeat
business and will spend the time & money needed to get it..

Just a little side note:

Last evening on television, I was watching "Discovery" a science
program and they featured Lenord Lee. After Leonard retired from
Lee Valley he opened a small design firm in Almonte Ontario. Just to
the south of Ottawa. I believe the firms name is Canics. The
firm primarily designs tools etc.

Leonard was approached by a medical doctor, who had previously
purchase numerous items from Lee Valley. The doctor "who's name
escapes me" asked Lenord to take a look at a problem he was having.
The problem was the standard flat blade scalpal which was originally
designed in 1915 and had several problems.

For example: The way the scalpal was held in the hand relied on the
muscle control and nervous system of the forearm, which was not as
responsive and lacked the sensitivity of the human hand. Likewise,
for staff, changing the blade on the scalpal was a difficult and
dangerous procedure.

End result; Leonard designed a more ergonomic handle with an ejection
mechanism which would safely eject the blade when it was changed.

Leonard then went on to develope several other devices. One device
was designed to hold surgical incisions open, during procedures while
working alone, and/or without cluttering up the work area by requiring
a second set of hands to assist or by using other instruments.

Another device was developed to do the opposite, by assisting with the
closing of incisions during procedures and also closing surgical
wounds gradually over a period of time, allowing the skin to strech.
In effect, it eliminates the problem of sutures tearing out of the
skin, when the skin has been stretched to close a wound.

I thought I'd pass this along, simply because the contribution Leonard
Lee and Lee Valley (Robin) have made is quite considerable, and
frankly I thought the story was quite interesting.

Pat




On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:21:12 -0700, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hiya Folks,
>I purchased their MKII sharpening system around 9-10 months ago. It's
>worked very well
>for me and I'm glad I plunked down the cash.
>
>Today, I get a USPS Priority package in the mail from Lee Valley which is
>odd because I haven't
>ordered anything from them recently. Inside is a note explaining that
>several owners of the same
>sharpener requested some sort of cover for it. Consequently, Lee Valley put
>together a cover of nylon
>and sent me one. Even though I bought the thing ages ago. There aren't
>many companies that
>have this level of service.
>
>As long as I'm buying stuff they sell, Lee Valley will be the first place I
>look!
>Thanks Rob!
>
>Cheers,
>cc
>

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 03:42:57 +0000, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

>
> "Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> It's true that there's a new VHS vs. Beta thing coming for the next
>> generation high definition big capacity discs, but Sony's technology is
>> just one of the new standards. One of them will win. The early
>> adopters who buy the wrong machine will be screwed.
>
> Not if you are careful in choosing. Years ago many people were buying the
> Commodore computer. I figured it was foolish and instead, bought the TI
> 44a. After all, Texas Instrument would be making those computers and
> supporting them for years to come. Maybe I should upgrade?

It was the TI99-4A and I went with it also. Advertised by Bill
Cosby. I also bought property advertised by Pat Boone. Sucks to be us.

- Doug

Good Stuff...! I'll have to take a look at the site.

I agree.

Pat


On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 20:14:53 GMT, "Michael Daly" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 7-Dec-2004, SawDust <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I believe the firms name is Canics.
>
>Canica. THe web site includes a clip from the Discovery Channel.
>
>http://www.canica.com/
>
>Interesting stuff. I especially was impressed by the hand-holding jig
>that he designed based on Lee Valley super fridge magnets!
>
>Mike

On 7-Dec-2004, SawDust <[email protected]> wrote:

> I believe the firms name is Canics.

Canica. THe web site includes a clip from the Discovery Channel.

http://www.canica.com/

Interesting stuff. I especially was impressed by the hand-holding jig
that he designed based on Lee Valley super fridge magnets!

Mike

On 8-Dec-2004, Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:

> The early adopters
> who buy the wrong machine will be screwed.

Expect machines that are capable of playing both (HD-DVD, Blu-Ray)
technologies. They aren't so different from a hardware standpoint.

Mike