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"habbi"

23/01/2005 12:27 AM

Delta 6" jointer

I bought a used 6" delta jointer but it is not the one shown on the delta
website. Was there an older 6" model which is now discontinued? It has a
stand and cast iron table and the previous owner says he bought it a couple
of years ago. The blades are level with the outfeed table but I find
anything I put through it does not touch the blades for the last 1/4. The
first 3/4 of the stock get jointed but then the cutters do not touch the
work for the rest of the pass. What is going on here? Thanks


This topic has 9 replies

Pa

"Phil at small (vs at large)"

in reply to "habbi" on 23/01/2005 12:27 AM

23/01/2005 9:02 PM

It's possible that the outfeed table is adjustable to be parallel with
the infeed. Usually (with any decent jointer-- this is even true with
my old rockwell (which became the delta 4") the infeed table moves up &
down to change the depth of cut. the outfeed table is only adjustable
for angle to the infeed. There should be knobs & locking nuts or gibs
on each table. The infeed has to be raised to the level of the cut,
then the adjustment can be made on the outfeed. Use a long straight
edge to confirm parallel, then lower the infeed for a test cut, and
readjust, retest as needed.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "habbi" on 23/01/2005 12:27 AM

22/01/2005 7:13 PM

In article <[email protected]>, habbi
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I bought a used 6" delta jointer but it is not the one shown on the delta
> website. Was there an older 6" model which is now discontinued? It has a
> stand and cast iron table and the previous owner says he bought it a couple
> of years ago. The blades are level with the outfeed table but I find
> anything I put through it does not touch the blades for the last 1/4. The
> first 3/4 of the stock get jointed but then the cutters do not touch the
> work for the rest of the pass. What is going on here? Thanks

1/4 and 3/4 of what length?

Is the outfeed table flat? Is there a sag at the end that would lift
the stock off the blades?

djb

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

DB

Duane Bozarth

in reply to "habbi" on 23/01/2005 12:27 AM

23/01/2005 8:45 AM

habbi wrote:
>
...about an apparently sagging table...

Best bet is to go to the Delta web site, get the 800 number and call
tech support if the manual doesn't describe how to re-align the tables.

Sounds like the unit may have been dropped or otherwise abused
sometime...

Delta is quite good at getting you to knowledgeable people to help if
the question/problem is out of the ordinary.

Unfortunately, it's possible the previous owner knew of a problem and
took advantage... :(

Gg

"George"

in reply to "habbi" on 23/01/2005 12:27 AM

23/01/2005 7:17 AM


"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:27:48 GMT, "habbi" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >of years ago. The blades are level with the outfeed table but I find
> >anything I put through it does not touch the blades for the last 1/4. The
> >first 3/4 of the stock get jointed but then the cutters do not touch the
> >work for the rest of the pass. What is going on here? Thanks
>
> You might check the tables to be sure they are in line with each
> other. Turn the spindle so your blades don't contact a long straight
> edge placed across both tables. Raise the in feed table to the same
> height as the out feed table and see if the straight edge will lay
> flat across and along both tables. If it does not you can remove the
> tables and clean any debris from the surfaces where there is contact.
> This should get the tables back in a straight line.
>

If "everything" is just a couple of test boards, it may just be you. Before
you tear into the machine, take a look at the side of the board opposite
where you took the bad cut and see if it's high on the ends and low in the
middle. What you describe also happens when you try to join the other side
(bowed) of such a board by maintaining contact nose to tail. What you need
to do is join the middle until it's approximately even with each end before
trying the full length.

After that, the edge and gibs.

hh

"habbi"

in reply to "habbi" on 23/01/2005 12:27 AM

23/01/2005 2:05 PM

The previous owner had all manuals etc.. and I found out it is the 27-380C
I checked the blades with a straight edge in relation to the outfeed table
and they seem fine. I will check the 2 tables to see if they line up. Also
the test piece was a 1' piece of 2X6 lumber.


"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:PLCId.1464$B%[email protected]...
>
> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I bought a used 6" delta jointer but it is not the one shown on the delta
> > website. Was there an older 6" model which is now discontinued? It has a
> > stand and cast iron table and the previous owner says he bought it a
> > couple
> > of years ago. The blades are level with the outfeed table but I find
> > anything I put through it does not touch the blades for the last 1/4.
The
> > first 3/4 of the stock get jointed but then the cutters do not touch the
> > work for the rest of the pass. What is going on here? Thanks
> >
> You are wrong about the blades being level with the outfeed. It would cut
> all the way if they were. Basically, you know they are adjusted properly
> when the jointer works correctly.
>
> Anyhow, does it have wheels or levers to adjust with?
>
>

tt

"toller"

in reply to "habbi" on 23/01/2005 12:27 AM

23/01/2005 1:05 AM


"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I bought a used 6" delta jointer but it is not the one shown on the delta
> website. Was there an older 6" model which is now discontinued? It has a
> stand and cast iron table and the previous owner says he bought it a
> couple
> of years ago. The blades are level with the outfeed table but I find
> anything I put through it does not touch the blades for the last 1/4. The
> first 3/4 of the stock get jointed but then the cutters do not touch the
> work for the rest of the pass. What is going on here? Thanks
>
You are wrong about the blades being level with the outfeed. It would cut
all the way if they were. Basically, you know they are adjusted properly
when the jointer works correctly.

Anyhow, does it have wheels or levers to adjust with?

hh

"habbi"

in reply to "habbi" on 23/01/2005 12:27 AM

23/01/2005 2:27 PM

I laid a straightedge over the entire bed and the beginning of the infeed
table slopes down almost 1/8". It doesn't look like the infeed table is
adjustable, it pivots on pins through a hinging mechanism. The outfeed table
looks as though it is on a bolts on to rubber pad. I assume the end of this
has to be raised in order to be parallel to the infeed table.

"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The previous owner had all manuals etc.. and I found out it is the 27-380C
> I checked the blades with a straight edge in relation to the outfeed table
> and they seem fine. I will check the 2 tables to see if they line up. Also
> the test piece was a 1' piece of 2X6 lumber.
>
>
> "toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:PLCId.1464$B%[email protected]...
> >
> > "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >I bought a used 6" delta jointer but it is not the one shown on the
delta
> > > website. Was there an older 6" model which is now discontinued? It has
a
> > > stand and cast iron table and the previous owner says he bought it a
> > > couple
> > > of years ago. The blades are level with the outfeed table but I find
> > > anything I put through it does not touch the blades for the last 1/4.
> The
> > > first 3/4 of the stock get jointed but then the cutters do not touch
the
> > > work for the rest of the pass. What is going on here? Thanks
> > >
> > You are wrong about the blades being level with the outfeed. It would
cut
> > all the way if they were. Basically, you know they are adjusted
properly
> > when the jointer works correctly.
> >
> > Anyhow, does it have wheels or levers to adjust with?
> >
> >
>
>

Ms

Mike

in reply to "habbi" on 23/01/2005 12:27 AM

22/01/2005 7:23 PM

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:27:48 GMT, "habbi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>of years ago. The blades are level with the outfeed table but I find
>anything I put through it does not touch the blades for the last 1/4. The
>first 3/4 of the stock get jointed but then the cutters do not touch the
>work for the rest of the pass. What is going on here? Thanks

You might check the tables to be sure they are in line with each
other. Turn the spindle so your blades don't contact a long straight
edge placed across both tables. Raise the in feed table to the same
height as the out feed table and see if the straight edge will lay
flat across and along both tables. If it does not you can remove the
tables and clean any debris from the surfaces where there is contact.
This should get the tables back in a straight line.


Mike O.

LL

LRod

in reply to "habbi" on 23/01/2005 12:27 AM

23/01/2005 1:17 AM

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:27:48 GMT, "habbi" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I bought a used 6" delta jointer but it is not the one shown on the delta
>website. Was there an older 6" model which is now discontinued? It has a
>stand and cast iron table and the previous owner says he bought it a couple
>of years ago. The blades are level with the outfeed table but I find
>anything I put through it does not touch the blades for the last 1/4. The
>first 3/4 of the stock get jointed but then the cutters do not touch the
>work for the rest of the pass. What is going on here? Thanks

Yes. When Delta decided to get into the lower priced 6" market (and
ultimately abandoning the premium DJ15--which was also when they were
abandoning all of their descriptive nomenclature; Delta Jointer 15cm
which is 6"; DJ20, 8" jointer; DL40--Delta Lathe 40 cm which is 16", )
they introduced a model which, if memory serves was the
37-18-something. There was a lot of brouhaha on the forums about it's
fence and Delta ultimately replaced it; possibly with the 37-190. I
don't remember when or why the '195 came along. I've had a DJ15 all
that time so I really didn't pay that much attention.

There must be a model number on it somewhere. With that you can check
with Delta.


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