I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
the bottom.
I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
the edges on a cabinet door?
Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
Sorry for allt he questions. I have worked with wood and refinished
several things but never built anythign really from scratch.
You can bevel an edge with sandpaper. A good investment if your making
face frame cabinetry is a Kreg jig. You might want to think about
getting a circular saw for rough cutting up your plywood, if that's
what your going to use. Get a dado blade, or use a router and straight
bit, for your table saw and you can order doors for it via multiple
suppliers. The best advice my little mind can give when making
cabinetry is oversize your plywood by about 1/2 inch then do a finish
cut to final size. Depending on the supplier, you can not depend on
your plywood to be true. It's better to do it on your own. I'm sure
you'll get a lot of different advice so good luck.
stryped wrote:
> I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> the bottom.
>
> I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> the edges on a cabinet door?
>
> Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
>
> Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
>
> Sorry for allt he questions. I have worked with wood and refinished
> several things but never built anythign really from scratch.
I thought I would use oak for the whole thing? How would I use plywood
and it look right when stained?
Cyrille de Br=E9bisson wrote:
> hello,
>
>
> >I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> > entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> > the bottom.
> wellcome and get ready to have some FUN!
>
> > I have a table saw.
> good start... usefull to do long cut, however (except if you have a nice =
big
> one), I would advise you not to use it to cut pannels if that is the
> material that you will use for your entertainement center.
>
> > Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> > the edges on a cabinet door?
> a Router can do any type of bevels and profiles (depending on the bit) th=
at
> you want. a router is better of on a table than free hand, but it works a=
lso
> free hand. a router is definitely a tool to have if you plan to do
> woodworking, however if you only want to do a small bevel or 45=B0 angle,=
you
> can also use your table saw or plane...
>
> > Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
> nope! the table saw is too slow and the trust bearing is for vertical thr=
ust
> instead of horizontal.
>
> > Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> > without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
> leave that to the professionals, in addition, they will give you nice non
> cut edges and the like. find a glass place near you, give them the
> dimentions, or even better the frame in which to put it and let them deal
> with it!
>
> to return to your original question let me give some pointers:
> assuption: you will use some type of manufactured wood (plywood, particle
> board, MDF or similar) for the main carcasse of your cabinet:
> - get a circular saw to cut the thing, or even better, if you can get the
> retailer to cut it to lenght for you. they have great big pallen saw that
> are SQUARE! and do nice precise cut. If you use a circular saw make yours=
elf
> a small little jig for pannel cutting like this one:
> http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=3DhowTo&p=3DBuild/RipCirc.html it r=
eally
> helps cutting straight and at the right place. hint, prop your pannel on
> 2*4s to hold it above ground level...
> when you design your center, pay attention to the weight of the TV! and
> design the thing accordingly!
> the face is the place where you want to be carefull and do things right
> because it is the most visible face. you might concider buying real wood =
for
> these parts.
>=20
> regards, cyrille
"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "booger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > 3. Do not try to use drill bits in your router ( See line 1)
> >
>
> He didn't say anything about this
>
> > 4. You're already off to a good start asking for help and advice from
> > others here.
> >
>
> Based on advice posted lately, I don't agree.
>
>
One must first learn to spell "furniture"
On 4 Nov 2005 05:30:39 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
>But building a cabinet for example there are only outside layers, right?
who or what are you replying to?
if you include the text that you are replying to, we can see what
you're takling about, and you'll be much more likely to get a useful
response.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:59:03 -0500, Lee Michaels <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I always assume that anybody who just posts answers without including the
> question is just talking to themselves.
> And they don't want any of our imput.
Yeah, I'm about at that point too. Obviously the chance of google ever
fixing that is close enough to zero. I wonder if it's time for that
filter.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:59:03 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
><[email protected]> observed
>> On 4 Nov 2005 05:30:39 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>But building a cabinet for example there are only outside layers, right?
>>
>>
>> who or what are you replying to?
>>
>> if you include the text that you are replying to, we can see what
>> you're takling about, and you'll be much more likely to get a useful
>> response.
>
>I always assume that anybody who just posts answers without including the
>question is just talking to themselves.
>
>And they don't want any of our imput.
>
>
I assume that they are newbies. which this guy introduced himself as.
On 3 Nov 2005 09:17:30 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
>entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
>the bottom.
>
>I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
>the edges on a cabinet door?
Yes.
>
>Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
>
Router bits (~20,000 rpm) are not designed for the slow speed of a
drill press.
>Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
>without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
You can use a glass cutter. Work on a perfectly flat surface, clean
the glass, moisten it with kerosene, use a straight edge, score, and
snap. Use 220 grit sandpaper to take off the sharp edges. If you
don't want to do this yourself, look up "glass" in the yellow
pages--it is low cost to have someone cut it for you.
>
>Sorry for allt he questions. I have worked with wood and refinished
>several things but never built anythign really from scratch.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> the bottom.
>
> I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> the edges on a cabinet door?
>
> Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
>
> Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
>
> Sorry for allt he questions. I have worked with wood and refinished
> several things but never built anythign really from scratch.
>
I strongly recommend reading some good books on woodworking. There
are lots of basic ways to use tools and lots of common techniques that
have evolved because they are effective. If you don't learn good skills
and techniques, both for designing and building, you'll probably waste
an awful lot of time and money and maybe injure yourself. For me,
the more I know the more fun woodworking is.
First study Mission & Shaker style, the design requires less tools but more
time and hands on. If I was starting out, the Router is now my most
important tool. I wish I knew more about it and different ways to use it.
You can't use a router bit in a drill press if you did it would be the most
dangerous thing in the world! The average drill press's RPM's are to slow
and most are belt. If it bit a piece of wood it'll kill you and anybody
close.
Glass? Pretty much a glass store, some Hardware stores will carry panes. Or
use glass you can find in a dump or thrown out like old windows.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> the bottom.
>
> I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> the edges on a cabinet door?
>
> Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
>
> Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
>
> Sorry for allt he questions. I have worked with wood and refinished
> several things but never built anythign really from scratch.
>
<[email protected]> observed
> On 4 Nov 2005 05:30:39 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>But building a cabinet for example there are only outside layers, right?
>
>
> who or what are you replying to?
>
> if you include the text that you are replying to, we can see what
> you're takling about, and you'll be much more likely to get a useful
> response.
I always assume that anybody who just posts answers without including the
question is just talking to themselves.
And they don't want any of our imput.
> Quote:
> I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> the bottom.
>
> I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to
> bevel
> the edges on a cabinet door? [/quote]
The TV stands from the big box stores have doors on the bottom OK for some
stuff, but I made drawers and find them to be much more useful. Full slides
allows the drawer to come all the way out so nothing can get lost in the
back. I made them deep enough to hold a CD or DVD case standing on edge.
Take a look at the one on my web page if you want an idea. It is oak
plywood top and sides but the face frame and drawer fronts are solid oak.
The top has a 1 1/2" border of oak around it for the edging. If you look at
the sides, it looks sort of lake a panel. I did that just to break of the
look of a slab of plywood. It is 1/3" think oak.
I have a router mounted in a table to do the drawer edges. I use that 99%
of the time; rarely use the hand held router.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
Frank Ketchum wrote:
> "booger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>3. Do not try to use drill bits in your router ( See line 1)
>>
>
>
> He didn't say anything about this
>
>
>>4. You're already off to a good start asking for help and advice from
>>others here.
>>
>
>
> Based on advice posted lately, I don't agree.
>
>
Frank are you saying that someone HERE would offer poor advice to a
fellow woodworker? I'm appalled!!
Dave
"booger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> 3. Do not try to use drill bits in your router ( See line 1)
>
He didn't say anything about this
> 4. You're already off to a good start asking for help and advice from
> others here.
>
Based on advice posted lately, I don't agree.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> the bottom.
>
> I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> the edges on a cabinet door?
>
Make bevels with a table saw blade tilted or a router. Both can be
dangerous if not used correctly.
> Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
>
No, not enough rpm's.
> Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
>
Have your local glass shop do this. Consider safety glass especially if you
have kids.
stryped (in [email protected])
said:
| I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
| entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors
| on the bottom.
|
| I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to
| bevel the edges on a cabinet door?
It's one of the tools that can be used. You can also use a saw,
jointer, or plane.
| Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill
| press?
Yes - just not for routing (I used a straight plunge bit to drill
clean holes before I found lipped brad-point drill bits.)
| Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut
| it without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
Bzzzt! You cut glass by scoring, then _breaking_ it. You can buy glass
at <drum roll> glass stores, lumber yards, and hardware stores.
| Sorry for allt he questions. I have worked with wood and refinished
| several things but never built anythign really from scratch.
The questions to be sorry for are the ones you didn't ask. A word of
warning: the more you build, the better you'll probably become. About
the same time that you build something beautiful, you'll discover that
woodworking (especially building from scratch, and most especially
when the design is your own) can be terribly addictive.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
The router is probably the easiest way to bevel edges, though there are
other methods. Router bits in drill presses don't work very well. Not
recommended. As for the glass, look in the phone book for glass shops. Every
town has at least one. They will cut and finish to spec.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> the bottom.
>
> I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> the edges on a cabinet door?
>
> Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
>
> Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
>
> Sorry for allt he questions. I have worked with wood and refinished
> several things but never built anythign really from scratch.
>
hello,
>I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> the bottom.
wellcome and get ready to have some FUN!
> I have a table saw.
good start... usefull to do long cut, however (except if you have a nice big
one), I would advise you not to use it to cut pannels if that is the
material that you will use for your entertainement center.
> Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> the edges on a cabinet door?
a Router can do any type of bevels and profiles (depending on the bit) that
you want. a router is better of on a table than free hand, but it works also
free hand. a router is definitely a tool to have if you plan to do
woodworking, however if you only want to do a small bevel or 45° angle, you
can also use your table saw or plane...
> Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
nope! the table saw is too slow and the trust bearing is for vertical thrust
instead of horizontal.
> Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
leave that to the professionals, in addition, they will give you nice non
cut edges and the like. find a glass place near you, give them the
dimentions, or even better the frame in which to put it and let them deal
with it!
to return to your original question let me give some pointers:
assuption: you will use some type of manufactured wood (plywood, particle
board, MDF or similar) for the main carcasse of your cabinet:
- get a circular saw to cut the thing, or even better, if you can get the
retailer to cut it to lenght for you. they have great big pallen saw that
are SQUARE! and do nice precise cut. If you use a circular saw make yourself
a small little jig for pannel cutting like this one:
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=howTo&p=Build/RipCirc.html it really
helps cutting straight and at the right place. hint, prop your pannel on
2*4s to hold it above ground level...
when you design your center, pay attention to the weight of the TV! and
design the thing accordingly!
the face is the place where you want to be carefull and do things right
because it is the most visible face. you might concider buying real wood for
these parts.
regards, cyrille
"> I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> the edges on a cabinet door?
A router can cut a groove or shape (put a profile on) an edge. Yes it can
put a bevel on an edge. A table saw or a plane can bevel an edge as well
> Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press.
Router its normally function at 20,000RPM a drill press is not even close to
that and is designed to handle thrust in line with the bit, rather than on
the side of it. No a drill press will not function well as a router at all.
> Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
My local Mom&Pop lumberyard will custom cut panes
On 4 Nov 2005 10:59:53 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am asking questions similar to my origional question, learnign
>woodworking. I am refering to cabinet door frames that have a taper on
>each side of the frame. I dont understand how they meet so to speak.
>
>I am posting in google and dont know how to quote.
instead of clicking on the reply button at the bottom of the message,
click on the options button at the top. from there you'll have a reply
button that quotes by default.
next you need to learn to snip.
On 3 Nov 2005 09:17:30 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
>entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
>the bottom.
>
>I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
>the edges on a cabinet door?
>
>Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
>
>Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
>without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
>
>Sorry for allt he questions. I have worked with wood and refinished
>several things but never built anythign really from scratch.
Once you learn to safety use a router and how to make a few homemade
jigs for it you will absolutely fall in love with it. I'd keep my
router next to my bed if my wife would allow it.
A biscuit joiner would be a nice thing to have or a good doweling jig.
as far as glass goes, I'd go tempered or safety glass and have it cut
where you buy it to size.
Practice on some smaller items or things you could use first, like a
nice hardwood tool chest with paneled sides and the like.
Oak plywood.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I thought I would use oak for the whole thing? How would I use plywood
and it look right when stained?
Cyrille de Brébisson wrote:
> hello,
>
>
> >I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> > entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> > the bottom.
> wellcome and get ready to have some FUN!
>
> > I have a table saw.
> good start... usefull to do long cut, however (except if you have a nice
big
> one), I would advise you not to use it to cut pannels if that is the
> material that you will use for your entertainement center.
>
> > Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> > the edges on a cabinet door?
> a Router can do any type of bevels and profiles (depending on the bit)
that
> you want. a router is better of on a table than free hand, but it works
also
> free hand. a router is definitely a tool to have if you plan to do
> woodworking, however if you only want to do a small bevel or 45° angle,
you
> can also use your table saw or plane...
>
> > Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
> nope! the table saw is too slow and the trust bearing is for vertical
thrust
> instead of horizontal.
>
> > Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> > without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
> leave that to the professionals, in addition, they will give you nice non
> cut edges and the like. find a glass place near you, give them the
> dimentions, or even better the frame in which to put it and let them deal
> with it!
>
> to return to your original question let me give some pointers:
> assuption: you will use some type of manufactured wood (plywood, particle
> board, MDF or similar) for the main carcasse of your cabinet:
> - get a circular saw to cut the thing, or even better, if you can get the
> retailer to cut it to lenght for you. they have great big pallen saw that
> are SQUARE! and do nice precise cut. If you use a circular saw make
yourself
> a small little jig for pannel cutting like this one:
> http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=howTo&p=Build/RipCirc.html it really
> helps cutting straight and at the right place. hint, prop your pannel on
> 2*4s to hold it above ground level...
> when you design your center, pay attention to the weight of the TV! and
> design the thing accordingly!
> the face is the place where you want to be carefull and do things right
> because it is the most visible face. you might concider buying real wood
for
> these parts.
>
> regards, cyrille
Quote:
I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
the bottom.
I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to
bevel
the edges on a cabinet door? [/quote]
I am also quite new to building furniture, a set of "text book" style
books that I found that have been invaluable. Fine Woodworking by
Taunton Press, check one of the large chain book stores. I dont sell
them but they will help with some basics.[/quote]
1. Start with making sure your health insurance is paid up.
2. Read a lot of books before you jump right into this.
3. Do not try to use drill bits in your router ( See line 1)
4. You're already off to a good start asking for help and advice from others
here.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am kind of new to woodworking. Would like to make a small
> entertainment center. (More like a table the tv sets on with doors on
> the bottom.
>
> I have a table saw. Never used a router. Is that what you use to bevel
> the edges on a cabinet door?
>
> Another dumb question, can I just use a router bit in my drill press?
>
> Also, If I wanted to use glass in the door, what can you use to cut it
> without breaking it? Where can you buy glass?
>
> Sorry for allt he questions. I have worked with wood and refinished
> several things but never built anythign really from scratch.
>