I recently purchased Delta 28-307 14" bandsaw. It is in pretty good
shape, but I the wheels are not coplanar. The bottom wheel needs to
come out about 3/16" or so.
My first problem is that I cannot get the bottom wheel off. I have
removed the arbor nut but the wheel won't budge. I have the manual
from Delta, but it does not mention wheel removal. The top wheel came
right off once the nut was removed. Is there something here that I am
not seeing?
My second problem is that I am unsure of how to move that wheel out.
The Bandsaw Book tells me to use washers. Again, the manual makes no
mention of this. Is that the correct method for this saw?
This is my first bandsaw and I have little experience with them. The
Bandsaw Book mentions two things about tracking the blade. The first
is to just to use the top wheel adjustment to get the blade to track
on the center of the crown. The second method is to make sure that
the wheels are coplanar and let the blade find its own center. The
second method is preferred. If I am unable to adjust the lower wheel,
than I will have no choice but to go with the first method. I would
just like to get some general comments about this from more
experienced people.
Wyatt
I also posted this on the oldww discussion area, but reposted it here
to reach a wider audience (support team).
Wyatt Wright wrote:
>I recently purchased Delta 28-307 14" bandsaw. It is in pretty good
>shape, but I the wheels are not coplanar.
Actually, you stand a better chance of winning the lottery
than to find a set of wheels on a band saw that are
coplanar.
>The bottom wheel needs to come out about 3/16" or so.
How come? On my Made In 'Merika/Not By Asian Children And
Political Prisoners Vintage Powermatic 141 I have the same.
So far I can't find a reason to fiddle with it.
>My first problem is that I cannot get the bottom wheel off. I have
>removed the arbor nut but the wheel won't budge. I have the manual
>from Delta, but it does not mention wheel removal. The top wheel came
>right off once the nut was removed. Is there something here that I am
>not seeing?
First, have you examined the parts drawing to surmise if
there is a key in a key way (there is) or something/anything
else in/on/around the shaft that might be binding? If none
then possibly you'll need a squirt or two of (insert your
favorite lubricant/WD-40 isn't a lubricant here). I like
Marvel Oil but some/many have an allegiance to Kroil. Next,
and while the lubricant is making it's way into and around
the shaft go get a wheel puller. From here it's a matter of
using the wheel puller.
Now, before you commence with surgery, is the blade tracking
properly? Answer this before proceeding.
>My second problem is that I am unsure of how to move that wheel out.
>The Bandsaw Book tells me to use washers. Again, the manual makes no
>mention of this. Is that the correct method for this saw?
I would call Duginske on the phone and dress down about what
a shoddy bit of writing he's done.
>This is my first bandsaw and I have little experience with them. The
>Bandsaw Book mentions two things about tracking the blade. The first
>is to just to use the top wheel adjustment to get the blade to track
>on the center of the crown.
He makes no mention/gives no credence/importance of the
wheel being crowned/doesn't mention this as the "usual"
reason you can't get a blade to track?
sigh...
>I also posted this on the oldww discussion area, but reposted it here
>to reach a wider audience (support team).
Oh boy. I can't wait to see what Bob Vaughn has to say.
UA100
Secret Squirrel <[email protected]> wrote in message :
"If your wheel is frozen to the shaft, you may find that you need to
use a gear puller to remove it. You can buy one at any decent auto
store and can probably rent one for just a few dollars as well.
This worked well for me. I am in the process of re-building a 28-380
from 1956. I just got finished sandblasting and priming most of it
today after a full teardown yesterday.
Eric
There is, of course, the key and rust on the shaft to contend with, I should
think, but otherwise you've got everything.
Washers work fine. Coplaner wheels with the tracking screw at neutral give
you the maximum available adjustment to track all kinds of blades. If you
use one kind of blade, better to adjust that kind for coplaner than to angle
the top.
You have the manual? If you need an exploded view, go to
http://www.acetoolrepair.com/home.asp and search on 28-307 model number.
"Wyatt Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently purchased Delta 28-307 14" bandsaw. It is in pretty good
> shape, but I the wheels are not coplanar. The bottom wheel needs to
> come out about 3/16" or so.
>
> My first problem is that I cannot get the bottom wheel off. I have
> removed the arbor nut but the wheel won't budge. I have the manual
> from Delta, but it does not mention wheel removal. The top wheel came
> right off once the nut was removed. Is there something here that I am
> not seeing?
>
> My second problem is that I am unsure of how to move that wheel out.
> The Bandsaw Book tells me to use washers. Again, the manual makes no
> mention of this. Is that the correct method for this saw?
>
> This is my first bandsaw and I have little experience with them. The
> Bandsaw Book mentions two things about tracking the blade. The first
> is to just to use the top wheel adjustment to get the blade to track
> on the center of the crown. The second method is to make sure that
> the wheels are coplanar and let the blade find its own center. The
> second method is preferred. If I am unable to adjust the lower wheel,
> than I will have no choice but to go with the first method. I would
> just like to get some general comments about this from more
> experienced people.
>
> Wyatt
>
> I also posted this on the oldww discussion area, but reposted it here
> to reach a wider audience (support team).
On the Delta, you want to shim the upper wheel, on the Jet, shim the lower
wheel. You can get a shim kit for the Delta by contacting Iturra Design.
The shims range from .001" to .125" and costs about $10. You can contact
them at 800-722-7078. If you don't have their catalogue, you don't know
what you are missing. Not only do they have a lot of good products for
bandsaws, but the information within about bandsaws makes it more like a
book you would purchase to just read.
I have the 14" Delta bandsaw with a 6" riser. I bought the bandsaw book
when I got my bandsaw. For several years, I had trouble resawing. The
blade would bow and wander. Finally, I decided to take the time to tune-up
my bandsaw. I put on a blade that I thought was dull and had also given bad
results for resawing. It cut like it was brand new and I could resaw thin
veneers. Tuning up my bandsaw made all the difference in the world.
Make sure to realign the wheels parallel after you set the blade tension.
Preston
"Wyatt Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently purchased Delta 28-307 14" bandsaw. It is in pretty good
> shape, but I the wheels are not coplanar. The bottom wheel needs to
> come out about 3/16" or so.
>
> My first problem is that I cannot get the bottom wheel off. I have
> removed the arbor nut but the wheel won't budge. I have the manual
> from Delta, but it does not mention wheel removal. The top wheel came
> right off once the nut was removed. Is there something here that I am
> not seeing?
>
> My second problem is that I am unsure of how to move that wheel out.
> The Bandsaw Book tells me to use washers. Again, the manual makes no
> mention of this. Is that the correct method for this saw?
>
> This is my first bandsaw and I have little experience with them. The
> Bandsaw Book mentions two things about tracking the blade. The first
> is to just to use the top wheel adjustment to get the blade to track
> on the center of the crown. The second method is to make sure that
> the wheels are coplanar and let the blade find its own center. The
> second method is preferred. If I am unable to adjust the lower wheel,
> than I will have no choice but to go with the first method. I would
> just like to get some general comments about this from more
> experienced people.
>
> Wyatt
>
> I also posted this on the oldww discussion area, but reposted it here
> to reach a wider audience (support team).
[email protected] (Wyatt Wright) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I recently purchased Delta 28-307 14" bandsaw. It is in pretty good
> shape, but I the wheels are not coplanar. The bottom wheel needs to
> come out about 3/16" or so.
>
> My first problem is that I cannot get the bottom wheel off. I have
> removed the arbor nut but the wheel won't budge. I have the manual
> from Delta, but it does not mention wheel removal. The top wheel came
> right off once the nut was removed. Is there something here that I am
> not seeing?
>
> My second problem is that I am unsure of how to move that wheel out.
> The Bandsaw Book tells me to use washers. Again, the manual makes no
> mention of this. Is that the correct method for this saw?
>
> This is my first bandsaw and I have little experience with them. The
> Bandsaw Book mentions two things about tracking the blade. The first
> is to just to use the top wheel adjustment to get the blade to track
> on the center of the crown. The second method is to make sure that
> the wheels are coplanar and let the blade find its own center. The
> second method is preferred. If I am unable to adjust the lower wheel,
> than I will have no choice but to go with the first method. I would
> just like to get some general comments about this from more
> experienced people.
>
> Wyatt
>
> I also posted this on the oldww discussion area, but reposted it here
> to reach a wider audience (support team).
I wouldn't sweat it alot unless I couldn't get my blades to track
properly. 3/16 seems like an awful lot to shim, so I'd go back and check
my measurements also. Using washers or other similar shim stock is the
generally accepted method to do this. If your wheel is frozen to the
shaft, you may find that you need to use a gear puller to remove it.
You can buy one at any decent auto store and can probably rent one for
just a few dollars as well.
"Preston Andreas" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On the Delta, you want to shim the upper wheel, on the Jet, shim the lower
> wheel.
It is a Delta and the problem is that the lower wheel is the one that
needs to be shimmed. No amount of shimming the upper wheel will draw
it close to the frame...
I either get that lower wheel off and shim it or I move the shaft out
somehow. I know that it comes apart.
Unisaw and Vaughn have convinced me that coplanar is not that
important. We'll see about that when I get the saw back together (I'm
still cleaning 50 years worth of crap off it). If it tracks well, I
may not mess with it. But I can't help thinking that coplanar (or a
lot closer than I am now) has to be better than not coplanar.
>You can get a shim kit for the Delta by contacting Iturra Design.
> The shims range from .001" to .125" and costs about $10. You can contact
> them at 800-722-7078. If you don't have their catalogue, you don't know
> what you are missing. Not only do they have a lot of good products for
> bandsaws, but the information within about bandsaws makes it more like a
> book you would purchase to just read.
>
> I have the 14" Delta bandsaw with a 6" riser. I bought the bandsaw book
> when I got my bandsaw. For several years, I had trouble resawing. The
> blade would bow and wander. Finally, I decided to take the time to tune-up
> my bandsaw. I put on a blade that I thought was dull and had also given bad
> results for resawing. It cut like it was brand new and I could resaw thin
> veneers. Tuning up my bandsaw made all the difference in the world.
>
> Make sure to realign the wheels parallel after you set the blade tension.
>
> Preston
>
> "Wyatt Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I recently purchased Delta 28-307 14" bandsaw. It is in pretty good
> > shape, but I the wheels are not coplanar. The bottom wheel needs to
> > come out about 3/16" or so.
> >
> > My first problem is that I cannot get the bottom wheel off. I have
> > removed the arbor nut but the wheel won't budge. I have the manual
> > from Delta, but it does not mention wheel removal. The top wheel came
> > right off once the nut was removed. Is there something here that I am
> > not seeing?
> >
> > My second problem is that I am unsure of how to move that wheel out.
> > The Bandsaw Book tells me to use washers. Again, the manual makes no
> > mention of this. Is that the correct method for this saw?
> >
> > This is my first bandsaw and I have little experience with them. The
> > Bandsaw Book mentions two things about tracking the blade. The first
> > is to just to use the top wheel adjustment to get the blade to track
> > on the center of the crown. The second method is to make sure that
> > the wheels are coplanar and let the blade find its own center. The
> > second method is preferred. If I am unable to adjust the lower wheel,
> > than I will have no choice but to go with the first method. I would
> > just like to get some general comments about this from more
> > experienced people.
> >
> > Wyatt
> >
> > I also posted this on the oldww discussion area, but reposted it here
> > to reach a wider audience (support team).
"Wyatt Wright" wrote in message
> I recently purchased Delta 28-307 14" bandsaw. It is in pretty good
> shape, but I the wheels are not coplanar. The bottom wheel needs to
> come out about 3/16" or so.
Most importantly, how does the band saw cut? Does the blade track? Can blade
drift be dealt with easily by aligning the fence?
If the answers to the above are satisfactory, then don't overly concern
yourself with "coplanar".
If not, shim the top wheel only to match the bottom wheel.
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