Hey,
You guys noticed how bad and/or expensive bandaids are getting?
They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
sure now, you can't count on them..My SWMBO got a bunch of "Nex Care"
brand. Theu are thin and hard to see on the skin, and they rip thru at
the edge of the pad in a few hours at the most. Pity, because the
adhesive is really good and it takes determination to get the ends of
the strips off from around the wound. Doubling them makes no
difference.
Most of 'em simply don't stick like birdsh!t, or rip off very quickly.
I think they're made to wear only while resting in bed turning pages
of a book.
You guys who work at suppliers of woodworking equipment, get with it
and crank out a New, Superior BandAid.
Please!?
James
[email protected]
http://[email protected]
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:06:31 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>So do some surgeons... it's called Dermabond.
Some don't. A few years ago I was working in a homeless shelter,
when one of the residents (a quiet harmless guy) was glassed in the
face. As is usual in Bristol, the hospital A&E people treated him like
scum, just about stopped the bleeding (think workshop staple gun) and
threw him out as fast as possible.
I spend two hours that night, almost certainly completely contrary to
our insurance, cleaning up the cuts properly and suturing (sic) each
one with superglue (presumably the butyl cyanoacrylate, because I've
never seen the dermabond version used outside medicine). And a few
months later, it healed with what I have to regard as very pleasing
results (for D-I-Y cosmetic surgery).
I remember using those when I was a kid..... They burned like fire.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "brocpuffs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
> > They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
> > sure now, you can't count on them..My SWMBO got a bunch of "Nex Care"
>
> Anybody tried the new "spray-on" bandages? I've seen a few television ads
> where a simple spray can is used to apply a transparent bandage barrier
> coating for minor cuts. I was wondering how effective it was?
>
>
Andy,
I'd rethink this. Back in the late 70's I recall reading a couple of
papers published in "Science" reporting on the use of cyanoacrylates
used to repair fractures in long bones incurred by US troops in the
Vietnam War. This was experimental at the time. The conclusion was
that a nasty bone cancer, osteosarcoma was pretty well linked to the use
of cyanoacrylates.
Admittedly bone is not skin but I still avoid super glue in skin wounds.
I believe that today's surgical glues, while close to super glue, are
not chemically identical.
Phil
Andy Dingley wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:33:58 -0400, brocpuffs <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>You guys noticed how bad and/or expensive bandaids are getting?
>
>
> No, I use superglue.
>
How good do they work......always getting them kid bandaids that aren,t
man-size...
Leon <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I remember using those when I was a kid..... They burned like fire.
>
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "brocpuffs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
> > > sure now, you can't count on them..My SWMBO got a bunch of "Nex Care"
> >
> > Anybody tried the new "spray-on" bandages? I've seen a few television
ads
> > where a simple spray can is used to apply a transparent bandage barrier
> > coating for minor cuts. I was wondering how effective it was?
> >
> >
>
>
Well as a kid, I was never really impressed... But then I was kid and the
application burned like fire..
Now that was ummm 37 years ago and I was always getting skinned up knees.
My mother would spray it on my knee and I would grit my teeth, squeeze the
hell out of my pillow and hold my breath until I just about popped.
Then I could slowly begin breathing again after a minute or so.... but then
I had to hold my leg real still until the bandage dried. 15-20 minutes
IIRC. If not, my pants would stick to the liquid bandage, which would pull
of any scab that began to form....
Having forgotten just how badly this all felt during application, 4 years
ago my son skinned his knee. I thought... Liquid bandade,,, I sprayed it on
him and it was Dejavu....I saw what I must have looked like... He and I
pitched the stuff in the trash.
It did work though..
"brocpuffs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hey,
>
> You guys noticed how bad and/or expensive bandaids are getting?
>
> They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
> sure now, you can't count on them
<snip>
Bandaides? Arn't thoses some little thing for kids?
Nothing a man would use!
Myx
In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Don Mackie wrote:
>
> > department. We use the cheapest Chinese-made bandaid knock offs. If a
>
> ...and charge patients $75 each for them... :)
I wish. Bad, nasty socialised public health system here, no charge to
patient for emergency care.
--
"Any PC built after 1985 has the storage capacity to house an evil spirit,"
Reverend Jim Peasboro
what, you don't have any super glue around?
-Dan V.
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:43:00 -0600, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:33:58 -0400, brocpuffs <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Hey,
>>
>>You guys noticed how bad and/or expensive bandaids are getting?
>>
>>They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
>>sure now, you can't count on them..My SWMBO got a bunch of "Nex Care"
>>brand. Theu are thin and hard to see on the skin, and they rip thru at
>>the edge of the pad in a few hours at the most. Pity, because the
>>adhesive is really good and it takes determination to get the ends of
>>the strips off from around the wound. Doubling them makes no
>>difference.
>>
>>Most of 'em simply don't stick like birdsh!t, or rip off very quickly.
>>
>>I think they're made to wear only while resting in bed turning pages
>>of a book.
>>
>>You guys who work at suppliers of woodworking equipment, get with it
>>and crank out a New, Superior BandAid.
>>
>>Please!?
>
>Just use kleenex and electrical tape (or napkins and duct tape) or
>whatever you've got. As long as you don't need stiches, anything will
>work.
>
>>James
>>[email protected]
>>http://[email protected]
>
>Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 17:11:54 GMT, "John Emmons"
<[email protected]> pixelated:
>It also stings like hell, unlike any bandaid I've ever used.
Judging by its contents, it's no wonder that it stings.
>"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Collodion. Good stuff, and unlike cyano it's flexible. Not so good
>> for cuts, but better for large surface problems.
While I'd heard the word before, I never knew precisely what
it was and had to look it up. To wit:
col·lo·di·on
(ku-lO'dE-un)
n.
1. A highly flammable syrupy solution of pyroxylin, ether, and
alcohol, used especially as an adhesive to close small wounds and for
making photographic plates.
[From New Latin collodium from Greek kollOdEs glutinous, gluelike
kolla glue -oeidEs -oid]
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:33:58 -0400, brocpuffs <[email protected]>
pixelated:
>Hey,
>
>You guys noticed how bad and/or expensive bandaids are getting?
About 20 years ago I had to go see a doctor and he put on
a nice little cloth bandaid. I've been buying them ever
since, and the generic brands are every bit as good as the
high-priced J&J type. The box I have in the cupboard now
is Target brand flex fabric. They're wunnerful.
BTW, the new surgical glues and BandAid(tm) liquid glues are
just watered down cyanoacrylate (super) glues in case you
run out of fabric strips one day.
In a pinch, masking tape and TP work fine to keep the red
bits off your wood.
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:33:58 -0400, brocpuffs <[email protected]>
wrote:
>You guys noticed how bad and/or expensive bandaids are getting?
No, I use superglue.
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:33:58 -0400, brocpuffs <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hey,
>
>You guys noticed how bad and/or expensive bandaids are getting?
>
>They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
>sure now, you can't count on them..My SWMBO got a bunch of "Nex Care"
>brand. Theu are thin and hard to see on the skin, and they rip thru at
>the edge of the pad in a few hours at the most. Pity, because the
>adhesive is really good and it takes determination to get the ends of
>the strips off from around the wound. Doubling them makes no
>difference.
>
>Most of 'em simply don't stick like birdsh!t, or rip off very quickly.
>
>I think they're made to wear only while resting in bed turning pages
>of a book.
>
>You guys who work at suppliers of woodworking equipment, get with it
>and crank out a New, Superior BandAid.
>
>Please!?
Just use kleenex and electrical tape (or napkins and duct tape) or
whatever you've got. As long as you don't need stiches, anything will
work.
>James
>[email protected]
>http://[email protected]
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
John Grossbohlin wrote:
> ...still using New Skin... cautiously. ;-)
That was good, but not as good as I thought it was going to be. I have a
much more gruesome bicycle story. :)
I could have used some of that stuff last year. My son got his first bike,
and we were riding around in the big parking lot across the street from my
house.
I was coming up to pass him, and I said something like "passing on your
left" to him. So he turned hard left, without looking. I T-boned him.
Neither one of us was wearing any kind of safety gear, and I was going
somewhere around 15 mph.
Boy I tell you what, there's nothing like watching asphalt go by half an
inch from your eyes while your forehead shreds itself and your knees and
elbows are being turned into raw meat, and there's not a damn thing you can
do but wait for it to stop.
Now we look like attack dog trainers when we go riding. Can't have enough
protection. :)
Oh, and I use the J&J flexy things. Especially the knuckle versions. I'm
always grinding or sanding off my knuckles, and I find it takes forever for
them to heal if I don't do something to stop them from cracking and oozing
every time I turn around.
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 23:39:58 -0400, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>Was introduced to this many years ago while bowling. A
>quick 'n dirty fix for a blistered/raw/cut finger.
>
>But yes, it burns like hell for a bit.
>
>Seems to be somewhat akin to CA glue (also useful for
>repairing small Lacs when one is in a hurry).
it does sting and it des not hold up. super glue is a better choice and it dries
faster. it usually does not hurt either.
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"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "brocpuffs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
> > sure now, you can't count on them..My SWMBO got a bunch of "Nex Care"
>
> Anybody tried the new "spray-on" bandages? I've seen a few television ads
> where a simple spray can is used to apply a transparent bandage barrier
> coating for minor cuts. I was wondering how effective it was?
I haven't tried the spray on bandages but was introduced to a liquid bandage
back in 1986 that is called "New Skin." It forms a film over the wound, is
antiseptic, and stays put during further abuse. Following is how I found out
about "New Skin."
The period of January to April 1986 I spent riding a bicycle all over the
state of FL and then meandered my way north to upstate NY. By the time I hit
Charlotte NC I was having problems with saddle sores. I laid over in the
Charlotte area for nearly a week trying to get healed up. I also bought
silicone cream for my butt, got a gel filled saddle cover. I then rode to
Williamsburg VA. I was hurting again and spent a week there "visiting"--one
of the reasons I got the job in the Gunsmith Shop. ;-)
While in Williamsburg I went into a Treasure drug store on Jamestown Rd and
spoke to the pharmacist about my problem. After he composed himself he told
me about rope burns in Army boot camp and walked me over to New Skin. I
would have tried anything at that point so I bought it and headed right to
my campsite. Into the tent I went... laying on my sleeping bag with my legs
up in the air and my shorts around my ankles I painted my butt with New
Skin. It burned like hell! After a bit I pulled up by shorts and got out of
the tent. A short time later I noticed that my underwear was kind of stuck
to my butt. Stuck was an understatement... it was GLUED to my butt! I went
back in the tent and peeled my underwear off my butt which REALLY lit my
butt up! I painted more New Skin on, waited a long time and testing for
dryness frequently and finally got dressed again. In the long run New Skin
did save my ass but in the short run it exacerbated an already bad problem.
;-)
When I went back to Williamsburg to work at the end of May I took the
opportunity to stop in and tell the pharmacist that he saved my ass. He in
turn told me that it was the first time in his many years on the job that
ANYONE had ever come back and thanked him. He probably tells his version of
the story too as he was clearly struck by the experience.
John
...still using New Skin... cautiously. ;-)
Don Mackie wrote:
> department. We use the cheapest Chinese-made bandaid knock offs. If a
...and charge patients $75 each for them... :)
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"brocpuffs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
> sure now, you can't count on them..My SWMBO got a bunch of "Nex Care"
Anybody tried the new "spray-on" bandages? I've seen a few television ads
where a simple spray can is used to apply a transparent bandage barrier
coating for minor cuts. I was wondering how effective it was?
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:48:32 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I haven't tried the spray on bandages but was introduced to a liquid bandage
>back in 1986 that is called "New Skin." It forms a film over the wound, is
>antiseptic, and stays put during further abuse.
Collodion. Good stuff, and unlike cyano it's flexible. Not so good
for cuts, but better for large surface problems.
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:43:00 -0600, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:33:58 -0400, brocpuffs <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Hey,
>>
>>You guys noticed how bad and/or expensive bandaids are getting?
>>
>>They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
>>sure now, you can't count on them..My SWMBO got a bunch of "Nex Care"
>>brand. Theu are thin and hard to see on the skin, and they rip thru at
>>the edge of the pad in a few hours at the most. Pity, because the
>>adhesive is really good and it takes determination to get the ends of
>>the strips off from around the wound. Doubling them makes no
>>difference.
>>
>>Most of 'em simply don't stick like birdsh!t, or rip off very quickly.
>>
>>I think they're made to wear only while resting in bed turning pages
>>of a book.
>>
>>You guys who work at suppliers of woodworking equipment, get with it
>>and crank out a New, Superior BandAid.
>>
>>Please!?
>
>Just use kleenex and electrical tape (or napkins and duct tape) or
>whatever you've got. As long as you don't need stiches, anything will
>work.
>
>>James
>>[email protected]
>>http://[email protected]
>
>Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
and if you need stitches, use CA/super glue...
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:58:47 -0400, PC <[email protected]> pixelated:
>I believe that today's surgical glues, while close to super glue, are
>not chemically identical.
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20000301/1383.html
Superglue, by any other name, would stick as sweet.
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"brocpuffs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey,
>
> You guys noticed how bad and/or expensive bandaids are getting?
>
> They're one of the most important woodworking accessories, and for
> sure now, you can't count on them..My SWMBO got a bunch of "Nex Care"
> brand. Theu are thin and hard to see on the skin, and they rip thru at
> the edge of the pad in a few hours at the most. Pity, because the
> adhesive is really good and it takes determination to get the ends of
> the strips off from around the wound. Doubling them makes no
> difference.
>
> Most of 'em simply don't stick like birdsh!t, or rip off very quickly.
>
> I think they're made to wear only while resting in bed turning pages
> of a book.
>
> You guys who work at suppliers of woodworking equipment, get with it
> and crank out a New, Superior BandAid.
>
> Please!?
Try duct tape and a "medical" patch.....far superior to bandaids; Water
resistant, doesn't get dirty and lasts for weeks, if needed......
>
> James
> [email protected]
> http://[email protected]
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:58:47 -0400, PC <[email protected]> pixelated:
>
>> I believe that today's surgical glues, while close to super glue, are
>> not chemically identical.
Super glue cure via methyl alcohol, which is essentially toxic. Dermabond uses
octyl esters for the same purpose. So, strictly speaking, I suppose the
cyanoacrylate is identical, the curing agent mixed with it is not. So you would
be correct.
That probably also explains why Super Glue burns so badly in cuts (yes, I've
tried it).
--
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It also stings like hell, unlike any bandaid I've ever used.
John Emmons
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:48:32 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I haven't tried the spray on bandages but was introduced to a liquid
bandage
> >back in 1986 that is called "New Skin." It forms a film over the wound,
is
> >antiseptic, and stays put during further abuse.
>
> Collodion. Good stuff, and unlike cyano it's flexible. Not so good
> for cuts, but better for large surface problems.
>