On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:17:53 -0500, Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
>All other products I have that were sold through
>'American' vendors but were actually Taiwanese in origin are fine
>products. Open it up, plug it in, and it works for years - without
>exception. Why should I keep paying some fainéant company to import
>and rebrand a product - they don't deserve it - just go to the source.
to go to the source you have to buy by the container. wanna buy 500
table saws?
Grizzly is an american company selling import tools with their own
label on them, just like Delta does. the difference is that Grizzly
doesn't put a label on that once was only on american made machines
and remains associated in many people's minds with "made in america".
because of that brand recognition, delta was able to command a higher
price for what was in many cases the identical machine. many people
didn't even know, especially at first that what they bought was an
import. the Delta brand name was once among the most trusted in
america, but it has been in free fall for some time now, and Grizzly
has been steadily improving their product line and their market
position.
buy the machine, not the brand name.
Lee Michaels said:
>My understanding is that Grizzly has no dealers. They do make a few shop fox
>brand tools to sell to some dealers. But Grizzly's whole distribution model
>is straight to the consumer. That combined with having their goods made in
>Taiwan is what they do.
Yes, I've seen the showrooms listed on their site.
I was hoping that there were 'authorized' distributors hidden around.
I do understand they are imports, but for reasons I won't go into at
this time, I don't care anymore.
>They do have showrooms though. One in Washington, one in Pennsyvania and one
>in Springfield, Missouri.
All of which are a LONG way from me, however.
We get no Tent Sales, either...
>I have bought a bunch of their products over the years and have seen their
>stuff in many shops. Some of their low end products are a little iffy. But
>their middle to high end stuff is pretty good.
Yea, some of it IS rather Harbor Freightish, but the 1023SL looks
pretty nice. I've been vacillating between considering it and not for
some time. All other products I have that were sold through
'American' vendors but were actually Taiwanese in origin are fine
products. Open it up, plug it in, and it works for years - without
exception. Why should I keep paying some fainéant company to import
and rebrand a product - they don't deserve it - just go to the source.
>I bought a table saw from them years ago that had a wrong manual and a
>couple parts missing. A phone call and the missing items were in my mailbox
>two days later.
That's what I hear. And what I LIKE to hear.
>Grizzly has an excellent reputation when it comes to customer service. I
>had some minor problems tuning a table saw and metal bandsaw. Some time on
>the phone with tech support solved both problems quickly and easily.
Ditto above.
>The general reputation around here is that grizzly may be a little more work
>to set up initially. But once it is set up, it is just fine. And it does
>represent a good value for the money.
If you only knew how untrue that first statement was...
>But the parts and service is just a phone call away if you need them.
But do they speak English when you call? ;-)
Thanks,
Greg G.
The Springfield Mo. showroom is as Southeast as they get. However, they
will provide names and phone numbers of up to two customers in your area
that have made purchases of items of interest. These are people who have
volunteered to provide this information and viewings. I initially viewed
the 1023S in the Springfield showroom and was pretty impressed. However,
talking to the local contacts really led me to purchasing on about four
years ago. Both contacts were very enthusiastic. One actually bought two
more 1023s as gifts to his son and son-in-law.
RonB
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> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:17:53 -0500, Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>All other products I have that were sold through
>>'American' vendors but were actually Taiwanese in origin are fine
>>products. Open it up, plug it in, and it works for years - without
>>exception. Why should I keep paying some fainéant company to import
>>and rebrand a product - they don't deserve it - just go to the source.
>
>
> to go to the source you have to buy by the container. wanna buy 500
> table saws?
>
> Grizzly is an american company selling import tools with their own
> label on them, just like Delta does. the difference is that Grizzly
> doesn't put a label on that once was only on american made machines
> and remains associated in many people's minds with "made in america".
>
> because of that brand recognition, delta was able to command a higher
> price for what was in many cases the identical machine. many people
> didn't even know, especially at first that what they bought was an
> import. the Delta brand name was once among the most trusted in
> america, but it has been in free fall for some time now, and Grizzly
> has been steadily improving their product line and their market
> position.
>
> buy the machine, not the brand name.
I concur. I bought grizzly many years ago and again more recently. The
difference?? They are much bigger now and have many more products. And the
quality IS better.
But my ultimate criteria is the number of the grizzly machines I have seen
in many commercial shops. I always ask about them. And the standard answer
is that they were bought because of the price and they are generally pleased
with the machine.
Greg G. wrote:
> Yea, some of it IS rather Harbor Freightish, but the 1023SL looks
> pretty nice. I've been vacillating between considering it and not for
> some time.
I have one (right tilt though) and am quite happy with it. Especially
since I bought it when it was $695 (with tube fence which works just
fine). I'd do more than consider it.
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>
> Does anyone know of a stocking dealer for Grizzly products in the
> South Eastern US?
>
> If so, and if you have dealt with them, how was your experience?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg G.
My understanding is that Grizzly has no dealers. They do make a few shop fox
brand tools to sell to some dealers. But Grizzly's whole distribution model
is straight to the consumer. That combined with having their goods made in
Taiwan is what they do.
They do have showrooms though. One in Washington, one in Pennsyvania and one
in Springfield, Missouri.
I have bought a bunch of their products over the years and have seen their
stuff in many shops. Some of their low end products are a little iffy. But
their middle to high end stuff is pretty good.
I bought a table saw from them years ago that had a wrong manual and a
couple parts missing. A phone call and the missing items were in my mailbox
two days later.
Grizzly has an excellent reputation when it comes to customer service. I
had some minor problems tuning a table saw and metal bandsaw. Some time on
the phone with tech support solved both problems quickly and easily.
The general reputation around here is that grizzly may be a little more work
to set up initially. But once it is set up, it is just fine. And it does
represent a good value for the money.
Plus you sound like you can maintain and set up just about anything. So if
they get something to you of reasonable quality, you will do the rest. But
the parts and service is just a phone call away if you need them.
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:43:19 -0500, Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Does anyone know of a stocking dealer for Grizzly products in the
>South Eastern US?
>
>If so, and if you have dealt with them, how was your experience?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Greg G.
If you ask Grizzly, they will refer you to customers in your area so
you can look their products over.