Bill,
Thanks for the feedback
Ron
"william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:_ItFb.422257$Dw6.1304086@attbi_s02...
> I've used purpleheart for a number of pieces for several years and I've
> never had problems with it keeping its color. . . .
SNIP
Bill,
Nice boxes . . . {the rest of you . . . keep your minds OUT of the GUTTER
!!}
From the looks of the BOTTOM BOXES {in the first picture}, you must be the
'definitive guy' to ask about Purpleheart and color retention.
We share our home with a retired Champion Malamute. Her breeder recently
asked us if she could start to show her, again, in the Veterans
Classification. We agreed, and since September {at the National Specialty},
she has won at the 4 shows she entered . . . 'Best of Opposite', and a TON
of First's, with a few Seconds thrown in. The reason I mention this is
because the breeder's 'color' is Purple, {it IS the 'royal color', and Zoë
is 'the Queen'} I'd like to make the 'Shadow Boxes' for her ribbons out of a
wood that is naturally that color.
Regards & Thanks,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
[Ch. Malamute - 'Winter Carnival' . . . Zoë to us]
"william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:_dlFb.619881$Fm2.558563@attbi_s04...
> Here is the process I have settled on
>
> I use small piano hinges that I cut to the size of each box cutting a
> small rabbit just the depth and width so the hinge sticks out to my
> liking. The rabbit is done on a router table with the fence adjusted
> for the size hinge I'm using. That way the rabbit is the same depth and
> width on the top and bottom.
>
> First attach the hing to the bottom.
>
> I put something like a couple screws down on the hinge or I leave the
> heads of a couple of the screws sticking up so the other side of the
> hinge sticks up enough to meet the top.
>
> I fold the hinge over and then put hot glue on the hinge in a couple
> spots and place the top on carefully lining up the corners and edges so
> they match and press down before the hot glue cools otherwise you will
> have too large a gap between the top and bottom.
>
> Next gently open and close the box and make sure the glue holds and the
> top and bottom remain lined up correctly.
>
> For small boxes I clamp the box into a BD workmate so when the lid is
> open all the way the top rests flat. For larger boxes I have a pair of
> angle brackets that I clamp to the box to support the lid so that it is
> level with the other side. The important thing is to not stress the hot
> glue otherwise it will come loose.
>
> Then I carefully drill my first couple pilot holes for the screws and
> put the first screws in. One you get a couple screws in you can breath
> more carefully
>
> Most of my boxes are done with 1/4 to 1/2 inch stock. Screws are the
> biggest problem because with harder woods they like to shear off if your
> pilot hole is not big enough resulting in having to drill out the part
> of the screw remaining in the wood and then finding some way of filling
> the hole and getting a replace screw to fit and hold. I've used this
> process with boxes made from ebony and other harder woods using number
> '0' or '1' brass screws (I'ver broken as many as a dozen screws on one
> small ebony box
>
> If you may find a bit of the hot glue sticking out from the back. I
> just trim it off flush with the surface with an exacto and anything
> remaining is not noticed after the box is finished.
>
> You can go to
> http://home.comcast.net/~wskossack/boxes.html
>
> to see how they turn out (most have been filled with candy and sent to
> friends and family for christmas)
>
> WORSS wrote:
>
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I made a small box and cut it in two with a bandsaw. Can anyone provide
me
> >with a successful procedure to add the hinges while making sure the top
and
> >bottom line up perfectly? The hinges I have are Brusso box hinges.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
I've used purpleheart for a number of pieces for several years and I've
never had problems with it keeping its color. If cut or sanded
agressively it will have a brown color but then purple up. To get it
to turn purple I don't do anything to it but leave it unfinished for a
week or two. Once it reaches a good purple color I give it a coat of
tung oil and then wait at least a couple days before padding on
shellac. I don't have any of the older boxes because they were given
away as presents but I got one back recently that I had given my
motherinlaw because she had died. She had it sitting on a table maybe 5
feet from a window and it still has a nice color. Her son kept an ebony
box mainly because I insisted and I have two sitting in my study that
have not been given to anyone yet.
From what I have heard there are maybe 5 or 6 different trees that have
the general name of purple heart. I've had the problem of different
boards purchased separately purpling up into slightly different colors.
In one case I inlayed a top using a different purple heart giving a nice
effect.
Ron Magen wrote:
>Bill,
>Nice boxes . . . {the rest of you . . . keep your minds OUT of the GUTTER
>!!}
>
>From the looks of the BOTTOM BOXES {in the first picture}, you must be the
>'definitive guy' to ask about Purpleheart and color retention.
>
>We share our home with a retired Champion Malamute. Her breeder recently
>asked us if she could start to show her, again, in the Veterans
>Classification. We agreed, and since September {at the National Specialty},
>she has won at the 4 shows she entered . . . 'Best of Opposite', and a TON
>of First's, with a few Seconds thrown in. The reason I mention this is
>because the breeder's 'color' is Purple, {it IS the 'royal color', and Zoë
>is 'the Queen'} I'd like to make the 'Shadow Boxes' for her ribbons out of a
>wood that is naturally that color.
>
>Regards & Thanks,
>Ron Magen
>Backyard Boatshop
>[Ch. Malamute - 'Winter Carnival' . . . Zoë to us]
>"william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:_dlFb.619881$Fm2.558563@attbi_s04...
>
>
>>Here is the process I have settled on
>>
>>I use small piano hinges that I cut to the size of each box cutting a
>>small rabbit just the depth and width so the hinge sticks out to my
>>liking. The rabbit is done on a router table with the fence adjusted
>>for the size hinge I'm using. That way the rabbit is the same depth and
>>width on the top and bottom.
>>
>>First attach the hing to the bottom.
>>
>>I put something like a couple screws down on the hinge or I leave the
>>heads of a couple of the screws sticking up so the other side of the
>>hinge sticks up enough to meet the top.
>>
>>I fold the hinge over and then put hot glue on the hinge in a couple
>>spots and place the top on carefully lining up the corners and edges so
>>they match and press down before the hot glue cools otherwise you will
>>have too large a gap between the top and bottom.
>>
>>Next gently open and close the box and make sure the glue holds and the
>>top and bottom remain lined up correctly.
>>
>>For small boxes I clamp the box into a BD workmate so when the lid is
>>open all the way the top rests flat. For larger boxes I have a pair of
>>angle brackets that I clamp to the box to support the lid so that it is
>>level with the other side. The important thing is to not stress the hot
>>glue otherwise it will come loose.
>>
>>Then I carefully drill my first couple pilot holes for the screws and
>>put the first screws in. One you get a couple screws in you can breath
>>more carefully
>>
>>Most of my boxes are done with 1/4 to 1/2 inch stock. Screws are the
>>biggest problem because with harder woods they like to shear off if your
>>pilot hole is not big enough resulting in having to drill out the part
>>of the screw remaining in the wood and then finding some way of filling
>>the hole and getting a replace screw to fit and hold. I've used this
>>process with boxes made from ebony and other harder woods using number
>>'0' or '1' brass screws (I'ver broken as many as a dozen screws on one
>>small ebony box
>>
>>If you may find a bit of the hot glue sticking out from the back. I
>>just trim it off flush with the surface with an exacto and anything
>>remaining is not noticed after the box is finished.
>>
>>You can go to
>>http://home.comcast.net/~wskossack/boxes.html
>>
>>to see how they turn out (most have been filled with candy and sent to
>>friends and family for christmas)
>>
>>WORSS wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>I made a small box and cut it in two with a bandsaw. Can anyone provide
>>>
>>>
>me
>
>
>>>with a successful procedure to add the hinges while making sure the top
>>>
>>>
>and
>
>
>>>bottom line up perfectly? The hinges I have are Brusso box hinges.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
Here is the process I have settled on
I use small piano hinges that I cut to the size of each box cutting a
small rabbit just the depth and width so the hinge sticks out to my
liking. The rabbit is done on a router table with the fence adjusted
for the size hinge I'm using. That way the rabbit is the same depth and
width on the top and bottom.
First attach the hing to the bottom.
I put something like a couple screws down on the hinge or I leave the
heads of a couple of the screws sticking up so the other side of the
hinge sticks up enough to meet the top.
I fold the hinge over and then put hot glue on the hinge in a couple
spots and place the top on carefully lining up the corners and edges so
they match and press down before the hot glue cools otherwise you will
have too large a gap between the top and bottom.
Next gently open and close the box and make sure the glue holds and the
top and bottom remain lined up correctly.
For small boxes I clamp the box into a BD workmate so when the lid is
open all the way the top rests flat. For larger boxes I have a pair of
angle brackets that I clamp to the box to support the lid so that it is
level with the other side. The important thing is to not stress the hot
glue otherwise it will come loose.
Then I carefully drill my first couple pilot holes for the screws and
put the first screws in. One you get a couple screws in you can breath
more carefully
Most of my boxes are done with 1/4 to 1/2 inch stock. Screws are the
biggest problem because with harder woods they like to shear off if your
pilot hole is not big enough resulting in having to drill out the part
of the screw remaining in the wood and then finding some way of filling
the hole and getting a replace screw to fit and hold. I've used this
process with boxes made from ebony and other harder woods using number
'0' or '1' brass screws (I'ver broken as many as a dozen screws on one
small ebony box
If you may find a bit of the hot glue sticking out from the back. I
just trim it off flush with the surface with an exacto and anything
remaining is not noticed after the box is finished.
You can go to
http://home.comcast.net/~wskossack/boxes.html
to see how they turn out (most have been filled with candy and sent to
friends and family for christmas)
WORSS wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>I made a small box and cut it in two with a bandsaw. Can anyone provide me
>with a successful procedure to add the hinges while making sure the top and
>bottom line up perfectly? The hinges I have are Brusso box hinges.
>
>Thanks,
>Bill
>
>
>
>
>
place a small shim between the box and lid while opened,same thickness as
the hinge part and pinch clamp align the hinges mark out with exacto
knife,remove the excess wood,mark holes and install hinges into
recess,remove shim and it should would fairly accurate.
"WORSS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I made a small box and cut it in two with a bandsaw. Can anyone provide
me
> with a successful procedure to add the hinges while making sure the top
and
> bottom line up perfectly? The hinges I have are Brusso box hinges.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>
>