On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:35:27 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
>
>http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
>
>... nuff said!
Man, if that's a happy one, I'm not sure I want to see an unhappy one.
;-) Nice driveby.
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Leon wrote:
> Yes, the bigger kits look like the cheaper way to go.
> I often have to cut through nails to remove wood easily. My only
fear is
> that the blades would not last very long.
I abuse a lot of tools.
Working with fiberglass does that.
I've had no problems with carbide; however, I don't even think about
HSS, so can't comment on them.
BTW, Klingspor has H&L paper at reasonable price.
You're not stuck with Fein paper.
Lew
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
>
> ... nuff said!
>
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As Leon said - (I'll clean it up first)
%$#@%$#!
Dave
"J T" wrote in message
> Damn good thing you put that security camera in. Otherwise that
> homeless guy would probably have gotten away with stealing your stuff.
> LMAO
ROTFL ... yep, I do feel a need for more fashionable summer shop dress,
especially now that I'm no longer buff in bib overalls and no shirt ... but
the JDS didn't come with any, so I guess I'm SOL for a couple of more
paydays.
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Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 6:15am (EDT-1) [email protected] (Swingman) casts hope
for the rest of us:
ROTFL ... yep, I do feel a need for more fashionable summer shop dress,
especially now that I'm no longer buff in bib overalls and no shirt ...
but the JDS didn't come with any, so I guess I'm SOL for a couple of
more paydays.
Nah, all you really need is a hat that says "I'm NOT Homeless".
LMAO
The only person I would care to see shirtless in bib overalls would
be Lucy Lu.
JOAT
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"CW" wrote in message
> Then they don't know themselves. You can call a rotation to the left
> clockwise if you want, still doesn't make it right.
It depends on the point of reference. If viewed from the opposite side, a
clocks rotation would be counter clockwise.
>The axis direction, as I
> described, is an international standard in the machine tool industry,
based
> on the Cartesian coordinate system. My point of reference is 20 years in
the
> industry. Working for and with users and producers of machine tools,
> machining any type of machineable material.
Multi-router is, in fact, correctly using the "three dimensional Cartesian
Coordinate System" to describe the axis' of their machine, instead of the
two dimensional, "rectangular Cartesian coordinate system".
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Tue, Jul 25, 2006, 12:35pm (EDT-1) [email protected] (Swingman)
.. to see what a happy coonass looks like: <snip>
Damn good thing you put that security camera in. Otherwise that
homeless guy would probably have gotten away with stealing your stuff.
LMAO
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Though it doesn't have guides for tenons, the Robland X31 combi comes
with a horizontal boring/mortising set up - the bit in a V chuck on the'
end of the jointer/joiner - planer cutter head, an X-Y-Z table to hold
and
move the stock. In/Out and Left/Right stops complete the set up.
See second and third pics on this page.
http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/X31pg3.html
The X31 sells for around six grand. the Multi-router - with bare
essentials is around $2000? For another four grand you get
a 10", 3hp table saw with sliding table, 3 hp shaper with 1 1/4"
bore, a 12" planer AND a 12" joiner/jointer - in addition to the
horizontal mortiser with Left/Right, In/Out and Up/Down table.
(Notice how I avoided getting into which is X, which is Y and
which is Z? Fortunatel, there's no pitch or yaw.
And here's a slick jig Ray McInnes came up with for it that extends
its capabilities. Handy if you do chairs.
http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/RaysMortiser1/RaysJIG1.html
Biggest shortcoming of these things is the table size. Building a four
or six panel door on it is a bit tricky. Gerald Masgai has it worked
out.
Have a look at his process for making a four panel door - using loose
tenon joinery and the mortiser on the X31. Click on "continue" at the
bottom of each page to get to the next page.
http://www.geocities.com/PicketFence/5276/shop/page16.html
Will the Multi-Router handle door building?
Oh, BTW - YOU SUCK!
charlie b
> Biggest shortcoming of these things is the table size. Building a four
> or six panel door on it is a bit tricky. Gerald Masgai has it worked
> out.
> Have a look at his process for making a four panel door - using loose
> tenon joinery and the mortiser on the X31. Click on "continue" at the
> bottom of each page to get to the next page.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/PicketFence/5276/shop/page16.html
>
> Will the Multi-Router handle door building?
>
>
> charlie b
I have used a Multi Router to make 15 or so doors . . . so yes it works
fine . . . loose tenons . . . I don't use it for raised panels, but it's
fantastic for the stile/rail tenon joinery . . .
Rick
http://www.thunderworksinc.com
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> FWIW, the engineering is absolute awesome. I don't think I've ever seen
> another piece of woodworking equipment with this level of precision.
>
> Every wooddorker needs to put his hands on one just for the fun of it ...
> but, what really makes the multi-router experience astounding is all that
> previous screwing around with the time consuming, imprecision of homemade
> mortising jigs for compound angled joinery.
So, there you have it, what every woodworker strives for when he/she buys a
new toy ~ that it performs above and beyond expectations. Enjoy.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
>
> ... nuff said!
OBTY, Kim said that you were not smiling. :~)
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> "charlie b" wrote in message
> <snip>
>
> The $uckage i$ mo$tly $ucked up by the expen$ivene$$, but thank$. ;)
So uh Swingman it $ound$ like you developed a li$p. Have you gotten any
saw dust on the multi router yet???
I have been heavily debating purchasing a Fein Multimaster to help with
exterior repairs around the house. I really like the plunge saw feature.
Rockler has the XL steel case version on close out price for $297. I recall
you saying that you have one. Do you have the profile sander accessory and
if so is it any good?
Then they don't know themselves. You can call a rotation to the left
clockwise if you want, still doesn't make it right. The axis direction, as I
described, is an international standard in the machine tool industry, based
on the Cartesian coordinate system. My point of reference is 20 years in the
industry. Working for and with users and producers of machine tools,
machining any type of machineable material.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "CW" wrote in message
> > The Z axis is always in line with the spindle axis. The slide that the
> > router is mounted to moves along the Y axis. The stock is moved along
the
> X
> > and Z. What the multi router is is a horizontal milling machine.
>
> Be careful of your assumptions, and your reference.
>
> The _documented_ axis reference for the Multi-router is as follows:
>
> The "z" axis is the up and down axis of the vertical table.
>
> The "y" axis is left and right movement of the horizontal table.
>
> The "x" axis is the in and out movement (toward the vertical table) of the
> horizontal table, in line with the "spindle axis".
>
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>
Swingman wrote:
> ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
>
> ... nuff said!
I'd hate to see a picture of you feeling sad :)
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out before someone notices.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
"charlie b" wrote in message
<snip>
> Biggest shortcoming of these things is the table size. Building a four
> or six panel door on it is a bit tricky. Gerald Masgai has it worked
> out.
Biggest shortcoming with all the above for me would be size, followed
closely by price. The MR is 16" w x 21" d x 20" t +/-, and weights about 96
pounds ... which barely made it into my shop as it is.
> Will the Multi-Router handle door building?
I think you could probably devise a method, maybe with outfeed
tables/rollers, but I don't think it would be remotely considered a "forte".
> Oh, BTW - YOU SUCK!
The $uckage i$ mo$tly $ucked up by the expen$ivene$$, but thank$. ;)
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
>
> ... nuff said!
>
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>
>
@#$%%$@#!$!#$^@%^^ Sonofagun. @#$@#$%%$#@#$%^%$&%^!@#$^!#~!@#%@#%466.
YOU DOG. LOL
Are the 6 chairs done yet?
"CW" wrote in message
> If you meant to say that your typical horizontal mill has more features, I
> will agree with you. The horizontal mill, with its calibrated measuring
> system, power feeds in all axis, ability to take a very wide variety of
> cutter, variable spindle drive, (often) swiveling table and easy
conversion
> to a lathe tend to give it a might bit of an edge. Years ago, there was a
> horizontal mill on the market that was about equivalent to the Multi
Router.
> It was known as a hand milling machine. It gave way to far more versatile
> machines. I have not seen one in quite a number of years.
In the woodworking world (after all, this is a woodworking forum and the
thread is dealing with a machine that was designed specifically for
_woodworking joinery_) the closest machine is known commonly by woodworkers
as a "slot mortiser", which some also class as a "horizontal milling
machine". AAMOF, an old Burke horizontal milling machine is used in one
local millworks as a slot mortiser for their door division.
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"Rick" wrote in message
> I have used a Multi Router to make 15 or so doors . . . so yes it works
> fine . . . loose tenons . . . I don't use it for raised panels, but it's
> fantastic for the stile/rail tenon joinery . . .
>
> Rick
> http://www.thunderworksinc.com
Beautiful work, Rick.
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"CW" wrote in message
> International standards dictate a point of reference and if they are not
> using it, which they're not, they're wrong. Kind of like using your own
> calendar or number system. You could, but it would make life much easier
on
> you and others to conform to recognized standards.
Bullshit! ... it just gives you something on which to attempt to show your
imagined superiority.
All anyone else needs to know is that the three tables move up and down,
left and right, and in and out, respectively.
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"Leon" wrote in message
> So uh Swingman it $ound$ like you developed a li$p. Have you gotten any
> saw dust on the multi router yet???
Just the kind from a few test cuts ... been too damn busy.
> I have been heavily debating purchasing a Fein Multimaster to help with
> exterior repairs around the house. I really like the plunge saw feature.
> Rockler has the XL steel case version on close out price for $297. I
recall
> you saying that you have one. Do you have the profile sander accessory
and
> if so is it any good?
I have a finger style and the tri-cornered sander accessory ... don't know
if that is what you're speaking of. I am not all that impressed with its use
as a sander, although it will get in some corners that few other tools will.
I really don't have many accessories as I didn't buy the full monte.
I used the saw accessory just this last week to free a lost circuit behind
some cabinets for a builder friend. It beats the hell out today's
carpenter/plumber/electrician's way ... a sawz-all.
You're certainly welcome to try it out before you buy. I would recommend
doing that. Just come by and pick it up.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
.
>
> Bullshit! ...
No, not at all. Look it up.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
>
> ... nuff said!
>
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>
>
They musta shipped same day. IIRC Sunday a week ago you had not yet ordered
it.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon wrote:
>
> > Yes, the bigger kits look like the cheaper way to go.
> > I often have to cut through nails to remove wood easily. My only
> fear is
> > that the blades would not last very long.
>
> I abuse a lot of tools.
>
> Working with fiberglass does that.
>
> I've had no problems with carbide; however, I don't even think about HSS,
> so can't comment on them.
>
> BTW, Klingspor has H&L paper at reasonable price.
>
> You're not stuck with Fein paper.
Thank you sir.
"Leon" wrote in message
> They musta shipped same day. IIRC Sunday a week ago you had not yet
ordered
> it.
Ordered last Thursday, drop shipped from JDS by Highland Hardware.
Trucking company called this morning saying it was in and wanted to make
arrangements to deliver it tomorrow. Rather than wait on their whims, I just
went and picked it up myself this morning (McCarty/Wallisville road area,
about 20 minutes from the shop).
Been too damn busy to do much but stop at the shop now and again and take a
peek ... need to put it on a mobile base before I can unfetter its wings and
let it fly, so it'll be a few days.
Beside the fact that woodworking paid for it, it feels good to get the
procrastinating over with.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Hah! So take that LEON and your fancy new bandsaw!
>
> Glad I am not in your neighborhood. I could never keep up with the
> Joneses, or the Swings, or the Leons.
>
> Hope you post a pic or two when it is all set up.
>
> Robert
>
> P.S. - hey Leon... what's next on your end?
>
Wull i did geta new dust collector.... last month.
"Ron Moore" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Sure would like to see some detailed photos of how that little rascal
works.
> It sure is a neat device, having seen it on Mark's show.
> > ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
> > http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
Maybe that's why he's not smiling. He still has to learn how to use the
thing. I usually find that when I gleefully come home with some new toy.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
>
As it should be.
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Leon wrote:
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Leon" wrote:
>>
>> >I have been heavily debating purchasing a Fein Multimaster to help with
>> >exterior repairs around the house.
>>
>> If you get one, get ALL the carbide blades offered.
>
> Yes, the bigger kits look like the cheaper way to go.
> I often have to cut through nails to remove wood easily. My only fear is
> that the blades would not last very long.
I don't know how many flooring nails I've cut with the "Universal E-cut"
blade--several hundred at least--and the first blade is still cutting fine.
Note, by the way, that with the round blades, the entire circumference is
not used for cutting--if you wear out a spot you should be able to rotate
the blade a few degrees and go right back to work.
Get the XL/Top (it's called one thing in the US and the other in Canada) kit
and if you're going to be cutting nails an extra package of Universal
E-cuts and you should be set for a long time.
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"Swingman" wrote
> "Upscale" wrote in message
>> "Ron Moore" wrote in message
>> > Sure would like to see some detailed photos of how that little rascal
>> works.
>> > It sure is a neat device, having seen it on Mark's show.
>>
>> > > ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
>> > > http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
>>
>> Maybe that's why he's not smiling. He still has to learn how to use the
>> thing. I usually find that when I gleefully come home with some new toy.
>
> SWMBO say's if he's not obviously pissed/scowling, it's a smile. I saved
> the
> big smile for right after cutting the first mortise, considering that I
> futzed with the necessity of damn near a separate, shop made, mortising
> jig
> for every single mortise on my current project.
>
> Actually, the second hardest part in gearing up for the first cut was
> making
> the mobile base; the first, finding a place to put it.
>
> The machine is intuitive in its methodology and the learning curve
> basically
> non-existent for cutting mortises, which is what is needed for the current
> project, and most of my future projects using mortises and loose/floating
> tenon joinery. Judging from what I've seen with DJM, and from talking with
> other owners/DAGSing, this is the number one use for the machine.
>
> Tenons are a bit more complicated, but not much, and only because they
> require the use of templates, which the three tables follow using a
> stylus.
>
> Mortises don't need templates, and at this stage, neither do I. Template$
> are expen$ive.
>
> Basically the multi-router is three tables; the router is attached to a
> vertical table, which moves in the z axis, with sliding stops which can be
> set to define the up and down limits of a cut; and two horizontal tables,
> which move in the x and y axis, both having stops which can be set to
> limit
> length and depth of cut.
>
> It's that simple, and if you've ever used a stop block for a cut, you're
> off
> to the races immediately.
>
> FWIW, the engineering is absolute awesome. I don't think I've ever seen
> another piece of woodworking equipment with this level of precision.
>
> Every wooddorker needs to put his hands on one just for the fun of it ...
> but, what really makes the multi-router experience astounding is all that
> previous screwing around with the time consuming, imprecision of homemade
> mortising jigs for compound angled joinery.
>
I think we can safely write swingman off the list for the neander-amish
woodworker of the month.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I used the saw accessory just this last week to free a lost circuit behind
> some cabinets for a builder friend. It beats the hell out today's
> carpenter/plumber/electrician's way ... a sawz-all.
>
> You're certainly welcome to try it out before you buy. I would recommend
> doing that. Just come by and pick it up.
It is a lot of money for a tool that I probably would not use very much. I
just may take you up on the offer when I start doing outside repairs again.
Thank you sir.
"CW" wrote in message
> The Z axis is always in line with the spindle axis. The slide that the
> router is mounted to moves along the Y axis. The stock is moved along the
X
> and Z.
Would've sworn that's what I said, but thank you for your prompt
corrections, per usual.
> What the multi router is is a horizontal milling machine.
... with a few more features than the run-of-the-mill horizontal milling
machine, NPI.
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"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon wrote:
>
>
> I don't know how many flooring nails I've cut with the "Universal E-cut"
> blade--several hundred at least--and the first blade is still cutting
> fine.
> Note, by the way, that with the round blades, the entire circumference is
> not used for cutting--if you wear out a spot you should be able to rotate
> the blade a few degrees and go right back to work.
>
> Get the XL/Top (it's called one thing in the US and the other in Canada)
> kit
> and if you're going to be cutting nails an extra package of Universal
> E-cuts and you should be set for a long time.
Thanks I keep that in mind.
The Z axis is always in line with the spindle axis. The slide that the
router is mounted to moves along the Y axis. The stock is moved along the X
and Z. What the multi router is is a horizontal milling machine.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Basically the multi-router is three tables; the router is attached to a
> vertical table, which moves in the z axis, with sliding stops which can be
> set to define the up and down limits of a cut; and two horizontal tables,
> which move in the x and y axis, both having stops which can be set to
limit
> length and depth of cut.
"CW" wrote in message
> As per usual, you've got your head in your ass and your trying to pull it
> out before someone notices.
>
You know, CW ... it doesn't pay to try and get along with you. I figured you
wouldn't be able to resist and would show your usual know-it-all, smart ass
on that one.
This is a woodworking forum ... keep that firmly in mind when you read/reply
to posts that deal with machinery designed with woodworking in mind.
Now, once again, go fuck yourself.
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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Leon" wrote:
>
> >I have been heavily debating purchasing a Fein Multimaster to help with
> >exterior repairs around the house.
>
> If you get one, get ALL the carbide blades offered.
Yes, the bigger kits look like the cheaper way to go.
I often have to cut through nails to remove wood easily. My only fear is
that the blades would not last very long.
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
> What is going to be your primary application with the multi-router? I
know
> Dick Marks like to make a lot of his joints on this machine.
That's because it is primarily designed for joinery, although it will spin
panel bits and will cut rabbets, etc.
I will use it primarily for floating tenon joinery, in particular production
runs of joinery with compound angles.
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"CW" wrote in message
> The Z axis is always in line with the spindle axis. The slide that the
> router is mounted to moves along the Y axis. The stock is moved along the
X
> and Z. What the multi router is is a horizontal milling machine.
Be careful of your assumptions, and your reference.
The _documented_ axis reference for the Multi-router is as follows:
The "z" axis is the up and down axis of the vertical table.
The "y" axis is left and right movement of the horizontal table.
The "x" axis is the in and out movement (toward the vertical table) of the
horizontal table, in line with the "spindle axis".
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If you meant to say that your typical horizontal mill has more features, I
will agree with you. The horizontal mill, with its calibrated measuring
system, power feeds in all axis, ability to take a very wide variety of
cutter, variable spindle drive, (often) swiveling table and easy conversion
to a lathe tend to give it a might bit of an edge. Years ago, there was a
horizontal mill on the market that was about equivalent to the Multi Router.
It was known as a hand milling machine. It gave way to far more versatile
machines. I have not seen one in quite a number of years.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "CW" wrote in message
>
> > The Z axis is always in line with the spindle axis. The slide that the
> > router is mounted to moves along the Y axis. The stock is moved along
the
> X
> > and Z.
>
> Would've sworn that's what I said, but thank you for your prompt
> corrections, per usual.
>
> > What the multi router is is a horizontal milling machine.
>
> ... with a few more features than the run-of-the-mill horizontal milling
> machine, NPI.
>
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>
>
International standards dictate a point of reference and if they are not
using it, which they're not, they're wrong. Kind of like using your own
calendar or number system. You could, but it would make life much easier on
you and others to conform to recognized standards.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "CW" wrote in message
> > Then they don't know themselves. You can call a rotation to the left
> > clockwise if you want, still doesn't make it right.
>
> It depends on the point of reference. If viewed from the opposite side, a
> clocks rotation would be counter clockwise.
>
>
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
> I think we can safely write swingman off the list for the neander-amish
> woodworker of the month.
:)
Never aspired to the honor ... what a smart Normite does is mentally bank a
nickel for every M&T joint he's cut by hand down through the years, add
those cut after moving up to table saws, drill presses and hollow chisel
mortisers, and when he gets old enough he can then spend all that hard
earned cash on a Multi-router to comfort him in his old age.
There are some benefits to being an old man ...
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Sure would like to see some detailed photos of how that little rascal works.
It sure is a neat device, having seen it on Mark's show.
Respectfully,
Ron Moore
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
>
> ... nuff said!
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"Upscale" wrote in message
> "Ron Moore" wrote in message
> > Sure would like to see some detailed photos of how that little rascal
> works.
> > It sure is a neat device, having seen it on Mark's show.
>
> > > ... to see what a happy coonass looks like:
> > > http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Multi-router.JPG
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> Maybe that's why he's not smiling. He still has to learn how to use the
> thing. I usually find that when I gleefully come home with some new toy.
SWMBO say's if he's not obviously pissed/scowling, it's a smile. I saved the
big smile for right after cutting the first mortise, considering that I
futzed with the necessity of damn near a separate, shop made, mortising jig
for every single mortise on my current project.
Actually, the second hardest part in gearing up for the first cut was making
the mobile base; the first, finding a place to put it.
The machine is intuitive in its methodology and the learning curve basically
non-existent for cutting mortises, which is what is needed for the current
project, and most of my future projects using mortises and loose/floating
tenon joinery. Judging from what I've seen with DJM, and from talking with
other owners/DAGSing, this is the number one use for the machine.
Tenons are a bit more complicated, but not much, and only because they
require the use of templates, which the three tables follow using a stylus.
Mortises don't need templates, and at this stage, neither do I. Template$
are expen$ive.
Basically the multi-router is three tables; the router is attached to a
vertical table, which moves in the z axis, with sliding stops which can be
set to define the up and down limits of a cut; and two horizontal tables,
which move in the x and y axis, both having stops which can be set to limit
length and depth of cut.
It's that simple, and if you've ever used a stop block for a cut, you're off
to the races immediately.
FWIW, the engineering is absolute awesome. I don't think I've ever seen
another piece of woodworking equipment with this level of precision.
Every wooddorker needs to put his hands on one just for the fun of it ...
but, what really makes the multi-router experience astounding is all that
previous screwing around with the time consuming, imprecision of homemade
mortising jigs for compound angled joinery.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
> "Leon" wrote in message
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>> They musta shipped same day. IIRC Sunday a week ago you had not yet
> ordered
>> it.
>
> Ordered last Thursday, drop shipped from JDS by Highland Hardware.
>
> Trucking company called this morning saying it was in and wanted to make
> arrangements to deliver it tomorrow. Rather than wait on their whims, I
> just
> went and picked it up myself this morning (McCarty/Wallisville road area,
> about 20 minutes from the shop).
>
> Been too damn busy to do much but stop at the shop now and again and take
> a
> peek ... need to put it on a mobile base before I can unfetter its wings
> and
> let it fly, so it'll be a few days.
>
> Beside the fact that woodworking paid for it, it feels good to get the
> procrastinating over with.
>
I was going to say that is an expensive little router toy. You must be
doing something right to have the woodworking pay for this.
What is going to be your primary application with the multi-router? I know
Dick Marks like to make a lot of his joints on this machine.