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"cyrille de brebisson"

27/09/2007 8:43 AM

10 versus 14 degree dovetails

hello,

what is the difference between 10 and 14 degree dovetails (appart from the
angle), why choose one rather than the other?

I am asking because I just discovered that my dovetail bit (Woodcraft $5 on
sale bits) is 10 degree but that the only butterfly/spine bit (freud) is 14
degree....

do you know of any 10 degree butterfly/spine bit?

cyrille


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Ferd Farkel

in reply to "cyrille de brebisson" on 27/09/2007 8:43 AM

27/09/2007 7:03 PM

On Sep 27, 10:43 am, "cyrille de brebisson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> hello,
>
> what is the difference between 10 and 14 degree dovetails (appart from the
> angle), why choose one rather than the other?

Aesthetics.

10 degrees works just as well as 14 on softwoods. 0 degrees
works fine -- aka box joint. Old ones seem to have failed at the
same rate as dovetails.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "cyrille de brebisson" on 27/09/2007 8:43 AM

27/09/2007 11:17 AM


"cyrille de brebisson" wrote in message
> hello,
>
> what is the difference between 10 and 14 degree dovetails (appart from the
> angle), why choose one rather than the other?
>
> I am asking because I just discovered that my dovetail bit (Woodcraft $5
on
> sale bits) is 10 degree but that the only butterfly/spine bit (freud) is
14

If you're using a dovetail jig, be aware that the depth of cut is usually
different for each angle ... this can be very important when cutting
half-blind dovetails!

10 degree bit: usually has a depth of cut of 7/16"
14 degree bit: depth of cut of is usually 5/8"

... be sure you consider this with regard to your stock thickness if you're
cutting half-blind dovetails.

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dpb

in reply to "cyrille de brebisson" on 27/09/2007 8:43 AM

27/09/2007 9:46 AM

cyrille de brebisson wrote:
> hello,
>
> what is the difference between 10 and 14 degree dovetails (appart from the
> angle), why choose one rather than the other?
...

The steeper angle is typically used in softer woods such as pine, the
more shallow in hard...

As for the availability question, no I don't have a source otomh...

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"steve robinson"

in reply to "cyrille de brebisson" on 27/09/2007 8:43 AM

27/09/2007 3:38 PM

cyrille de brebisson wrote:

> hello,
>
> what is the difference between 10 and 14 degree dovetails (appart
> from the angle), why choose one rather than the other?
>
> I am asking because I just discovered that my dovetail bit (Woodcraft
> $5 on sale bits) is 10 degree but that the only butterfly/spine bit
> (freud) is 14 degree....
>
> do you know of any 10 degree butterfly/spine bit?
>
> cyrille


The harder timbers have shallower pitches softer timbers have deeper
pitches

If your using a hardwood that is quite soft (many deciduous timbers are
softer than coniferous timbers its better to use a deeper pitch )

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