As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
for Obama.
There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
and monolithic in color.
They were all white.
Where were the young people?
Where were the blacks?
Where were the brown skinned people?
Where were the yellow skinned people?
Where were the native American people?
Clearly this group of people did not reflect 21st century America.
The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
the Republican party has become.
Lew
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:44:30 PM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
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> That's exactly what one of the Republican leaders (sorry - do not recall =
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I heard that too and it dawned on me that, while Romney had the executive e=
xperience to run the country's business, his campaign resembled the corpora=
te boardroom mentality that I was glad to leave behind a few years ago -- a=
good ole' boys club with minimal input from women or minorities. Didn't w=
ork!
Another observation that stuck with me even this morning: A CNN analyst (O=
lder balding fellow with glasses and mustache/goatee) was at the smart boar=
d talking about the Ohio/Virginia/Florida races. In the process he said "T=
his is where presidents are elected. Out west they are just choosing congr=
essional representatives and local officials." It pissed me off at the mom=
ent, but he was absolutely right.
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:01:05 -0800, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:49:08 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 11/07/2012 02:50 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
>>> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
>>> for Obama.
>>>
>>> There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
>>>
>>> A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
>>> and monolithic in color.
>>>
>>> They were all white.
>>>
>>> Where were the young people?
>>>
>>> Where were the blacks?
>>>
>>> Where were the brown skinned people?
>>>
>>> Where were the yellow skinned people?
>>>
>>> Where were the native American people?
>>>
>>> Clearly this group of people did not reflect 21st century America.
>>>
>>> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
>>> the Republican party has become.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>
>>No. This election demonstrated that now, more than ever, the looters can
>>steal from the producers to buy votes from the moochers.
>
>+1, and it shows how racist^H^H^H^H^H^Hfocused on race Lew is. (White
>people aren't Americans?) BTW, I'm white and wasn't shocked.
>
>The REPs should have found an electable guy in the first place.
>
>Connie in '16? ;)
I'll drink to that.
She's a much better choice than either Romney or McCain.
On 11/07/2012 02:50 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
> for Obama.
>
> There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
>
> A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
> and monolithic in color.
>
> They were all white.
>
> Where were the young people?
>
> Where were the blacks?
>
> Where were the brown skinned people?
>
> Where were the yellow skinned people?
>
> Where were the native American people?
>
> Clearly this group of people did not reflect 21st century America.
>
> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
> the Republican party has become.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
No. This election demonstrated that now, more than ever, the looters can
steal from the producers to buy votes from the moochers.
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On 11/10/2012 12:38 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>
>>
>> I agree with you on the above.
>>
>> In my opinion we must return to the very thing that made the country
>> work for 240 years. That is EVERYBODY is responsible for their own
>> actions and must accept the consequences there of. I am sure that
>> when our ancestor set out in wagons, they accepted the consequences
>> of their own actions.
>
> Not at all! It is a well known fact that when wagon trains were ambushed
> and all were killed in the ambush, the survivors sued the Wagon Master and
> his company for damages. Sheese - get up to speed on your history, will ya?
>
>
They also had regular meetings to discuss the plight of the womyn and
how they might achieve greater social justice by stealing from other
wagon trains.
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On 11/7/2012 3:49 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> On 11/07/2012 02:50 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
>> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
>> for Obama.
>>
>> There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
>>
>> A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
>> and monolithic in color.
>>
>> They were all white.
>>
>> Where were the young people?
>>
>> Where were the blacks?
>>
>> Where were the brown skinned people?
>>
>> Where were the yellow skinned people?
>>
>> Where were the native American people?
>>
>> Clearly this group of people did not reflect 21st century America.
>>
>> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
>> the Republican party has become.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> No. This election demonstrated that now, more than ever, the looters can
> steal from the producers to buy votes from the moochers.
>
+1
"Leon" wrote:
> Relatively narrow margin win. It took all those other colored skin
> people together to beat the white man.
-------------------------------------------------------
That's the way the game is played.
FDR recognized the power of coalitions.
"Whitey" is getting long in the tooth.
Unless the GOP makes some major changes,
they will be history by 2050, IMHO.
Lew
"Swingman" wrote:
> Blaming it on Bush ain't gonna cut it starting today ...
------------------------------------------------------
The structrual damage to the economy caused by Bush
has had an affect that will take years to totally recover from.
Improvement, especially the housing market, yes, but total
recovery is going to take longer than anyone wants.
Lew
In article <[email protected]>,
Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Reply-To: "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]>
> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
> for Obama.
Yes, we see some of the same footage here on our UK news broadcasts.
Actually we wonder how American government ever works and even what the
policies of the parties actually are.
In the UK we vote for a government (at least in theory) and the leader of
the winning party becomes Prime Minister.
In the US you vote for a president who is expected to lead the country yet
the government he has to lead can be dominated by members of the opposite
party who will fight everything he tries to do.
Sounds as crazy as the sums of money wasted in all the razzamataz of the
campaigning
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On 11/7/2012 7:25 PM, RonB wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> -Mike-
>>
>>
>
> I heard that too and it dawned on me that, while Romney had the executive experience to run the country's business, his campaign resembled the corporate boardroom mentality that I was glad to leave behind a few years ago -- a good ole' boys club with minimal input from women or minorities. Didn't work!
>
> Another observation that stuck with me even this morning: A CNN analyst (Older balding fellow with glasses and mustache/goatee) was at the smart board talking about the Ohio/Virginia/Florida races. In the process he said "This is where presidents are elected. Out west they are just choosing congressional representatives and local officials." It pissed me off at the moment, but he was absolutely right.
>
I would much prefer the news to stay out of it all together and simply
report the winner the following day.
Might get a different outcome if the central states and west coast did
not know how their candidates stood.
Keith Nuttle <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 11/10/2012 1:19 AM, Roy wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:01:05 -0800, Larry Jaques
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:49:08 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/07/2012 02:50 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
>>>>> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
>>>>> for Obama.
>>>>>
>>>>> There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
>>>>>
>>>>> A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
>>>>> and monolithic in color.
>>>>>
>>>>> They were all white.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where were the young people?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where were the blacks?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where were the brown skinned people?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where were the yellow skinned people?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where were the native American people?
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly this group of people did not reflect 21st century America.
>>>>>
>>>>> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
>>>>> the Republican party has become.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lew
>>>>
>>>> No. This election demonstrated that now, more than ever, the
>>>> looters can steal from the producers to buy votes from the
>>>> moochers.
>>>
>>> +1, and it shows how racist^H^H^H^H^H^Hfocused on race Lew is.
>>> (White people aren't Americans?) BTW, I'm white and wasn't shocked.
>>>
>>> The REPs should have found an electable guy in the first place.
>>>
>>> Connie in '16? ;)
>>
>>
>> I'll drink to that.
>>
>> She's a much better choice than either Romney or McCain.
>>
>
> It is all a moot point. The Republic died on November 6, 2012.
>
> This is History's verdict not mine. It may many years for the people
> to see what they have lost on November 6th, but the break in the curve
> of history will be obviously be in this 8 year period. Just as the
> break in the curve of the stock market trend line is obviously on
> September 28, 2008
>
> Just as when looking back at the Civil war it is obvious that
> Gettysburg was turning point in the Civil War. When looking at World
> War II, it is obvious that the battle of Midway was a turning point.
>
> The re-election of the social democrats is a a turning point. When the
> majority of the people of the what was the US, decide the government
> knows more about running their live, and get government money is
> easier that working for it, there is not hope. When the people of a
> storm ravaged area sit around for a week waiting for FEMA, instead of
> immediately going together and doing it themselves, we are at a
> turning point.
>
> When we reelect a president who see nothing wrong is increasing the
> debt over 1 trillion dollars per year we are at a turning point.
>
> When the government sets up sex scandals to insure its version of
> events gets published we are at a turning point.
As you might expect, my view is diametrically opposed to yours. No need
to go into details
As for turning points in WW II, the most important one was the capture of
the enigma coding machine. Next come the battle of Britain and the
cancellation of the invasion of Britain (which would have been a disaster
for Germany, I think). Then, the invasion of the USSR was the point at
which the Allies were going to be certain of eventual victory, albeit
after a long slog, mainly for the Russians. In the Pacific, the turning
point was Pearl Harbor, because the American carriers weren't there. The
draw in the Coral Sea was extremely important as well, and then comes
indeed Midway as the indicator that the tide was turning (remember that
breaking the Japanese code was essential). After that, it was an
American slog through the Pacific. And I'm surely glad give 'em hell
Harry said to drop the bombs.
There is a poppy on my FB page for 11/11.
--
Best regards
Han
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WH unless they move to the center and embrace the changing demography of Am=
erica. On the other hand, the gerrymandered congressional districts will s=
till give the right wing a powerful voice in the House. Could we see the e=
mergence of a centrist third party to compete with the left wing of today's=
Dems and the tea baggers?
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:45:00 PM UTC-6, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
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> -------------------------------------------------------
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> That's the way the game is played.
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> FDR recognized the power of coalitions.
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> "Whitey" is getting long in the tooth.
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> Unless the GOP makes some major changes,
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> they will be history by 2050, IMHO.
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> Lew
On 11/8/2012 1:45 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote:
>
>> Blaming it on Bush ain't gonna cut it starting today ...
> ------------------------------------------------------
> The structrual damage to the economy caused by Bush
> has had an affect that will take years to totally recover from.
When you point a finger, you have three more pointing back at you.
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:49:08 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
>> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
>> the Republican party has become.
>No. This election demonstrated that now, more than ever, the looters can
>steal from the producers to buy votes from the moochers.
Leave it to you to ignore the obvious observation and launch into your
own personally pathetic bullshit.
On 11/07/2012 05:15 PM, Stuart wrote:
> In the US you vote for a president who is expected to lead the country yet
> the government he has to lead can be dominated by members of the opposite
> party who will fight everything he tries to do.
This is by intent and design. Our Framers were very smart people. They'd
just gotten rid of a monarchy and did not want a strong central Federal
government. This has withstood the test of time and the judgment of
history. IOW, this is a feature, not a bug.
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On 11/10/2012 7:30 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> It is all a moot point. The Republic died on November 6, 2012.
Actually, the "right" of 'everyman' to vote, no matter their
contribution to society, therefore enabling the ability to divide by
those seeking to further political power/agendas, and to then pander to
those divisions for political gain, was the very first, albeit subtle,
nail in the coffin of our democratic republic.
You can gasp, rail, gnash your teeth, and cry foul over the obvious
result of a supposed cherished belief, but history is proving it to be
so ... and that one tweaking of what the founders originally set up will
continue to preside over the rapid diminishing of a once unique
democratic republic.
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On 11/7/2012 2:50 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
> for Obama.
>
> There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
>
> A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
> and monolithic in color.
>
> They were all white.
>
> Where were the young people?
>
> Where were the blacks?
>
> Where were the brown skinned people?
>
> Where were the yellow skinned people?
>
> Where were the native American people?
>
> Clearly this group of people did not reflect 21st century America.
>
> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
> the Republican party has become.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
Relatively narrow margin win. It took all those other colored skin
people together to beat the white man.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
> for Obama.
>
> There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
>
> A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
> and monolithic in color.
>
> They were all white.
>
> Where were the young people?
>
> Where were the blacks?
>
> Where were the brown skinned people?
>
> Where were the yellow skinned people?
>
> Where were the native American people?
>
> Clearly this group of people did not reflect 21st century America.
>
> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
> the Republican party has become.
>
That's exactly what one of the Republican leaders (sorry - do not recall his
name} was saying earlier in the broadcast. He was quite upset about the
Republican party's approach to the election in general, based on exactly
those points. I too, was disappointed in seeing the good old boys club
image of the Republicans throughout the campaign. They will either have to
figure this out or fold up the party. The 40's and 50's were over a couple
of years ago.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 11/7/2012 2:50 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
...
> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
> the Republican party has become.
...
Well, hardly since last I saw late last night there wasn't but about 1
out of roughly 120 difference in popular vote despite the large swing in
electoral votes...it's just that the Demo blocs are centered in the
population-dense areas and that dominates.
It's just like the problem in the state here--back in the 70s the
population centers managed to get the senate as well as house (these are
state houses, here, remember) apportioned on the basis of population as
opposed to being weighted by geographical area as they were set up to
mimic federal initially. Now we have essentially no representation for
about 80% of the state as there is one district that encompasses 70 out
of 105 counties in the state. It's what's happening to the US outside
the major cities there is effectively no representation as far as the
presidential election goes.
--
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
> for Obama.
>
> There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
>
> A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
> and monolithic in color.
>
> They were all white.
>
> Where were the young people?
>
> Where were the blacks?
>
> Where were the brown skinned people?
>
> Where were the yellow skinned people?
>
> Where were the native American people?
They were all over at the Democratic headquarters seeing what new goodies
they were going to get; goodies paid for by the guys at the Republican
headquarters.
--
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On 11/10/2012 1:19 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:01:05 -0800, Larry Jaques
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:49:08 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/07/2012 02:50 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
>>>> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
>>>> for Obama.
>>>>
>>>> There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
>>>>
>>>> A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
>>>> and monolithic in color.
>>>>
>>>> They were all white.
>>>>
>>>> Where were the young people?
>>>>
>>>> Where were the blacks?
>>>>
>>>> Where were the brown skinned people?
>>>>
>>>> Where were the yellow skinned people?
>>>>
>>>> Where were the native American people?
>>>>
>>>> Clearly this group of people did not reflect 21st century America.
>>>>
>>>> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
>>>> the Republican party has become.
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>>>
>>> No. This election demonstrated that now, more than ever, the looters can
>>> steal from the producers to buy votes from the moochers.
>>
>> +1, and it shows how racist^H^H^H^H^H^Hfocused on race Lew is. (White
>> people aren't Americans?) BTW, I'm white and wasn't shocked.
>>
>> The REPs should have found an electable guy in the first place.
>>
>> Connie in '16? ;)
>
>
> I'll drink to that.
>
> She's a much better choice than either Romney or McCain.
>
It is all a moot point. The Republic died on November 6, 2012.
This is History's verdict not mine. It may many years for the people to
see what they have lost on November 6th, but the break in the curve of
history will be obviously be in this 8 year period. Just as the break
in the curve of the stock market trend line is obviously on September
28, 2008
Just as when looking back at the Civil war it is obvious that Gettysburg
was turning point in the Civil War. When looking at World War II, it is
obvious that the battle of Midway was a turning point.
The re-election of the social democrats is a a turning point. When the
majority of the people of the what was the US, decide the government
knows more about running their live, and get government money is easier
that working for it, there is not hope. When the people of a storm
ravaged area sit around for a week waiting for FEMA, instead of
immediately going together and doing it themselves, we are at a turning
point.
When we reelect a president who see nothing wrong is increasing the debt
over 1 trillion dollars per year we are at a turning point.
When the government sets up sex scandals to insure its version of events
gets published we are at a turning point.
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:02:59 -0600, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 7:30 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
>
>> It is all a moot point. The Republic died on November 6, 2012.
>
> Actually, the "right" of 'everyman' to vote, no matter their
> contribution to society, therefore enabling the ability to divide by
> those seeking to further political power/agendas, and to then pander to
> those divisions for political gain, was the very first, albeit subtle,
> nail in the coffin of our democratic republic.
While I'm sure it will amaze Keith, who's convinced I'm somewhere to the
left of Mao, I agree with you.
But going back to "white male property owners" seems a bit much. So what
should the criteria be? Federal taxpayers only won't fly, it would
disenfranchise a lot of the seniors and the temporarily unemployed.
I'd like to see some requirement to demonstrate knowledge of how the
government works in order to register to vote. No more "motor voter".
But how do we ensure the test won't be used to keep out minorities as it
was in the past?
One thing is for certain in my mind. We need to do away with mail in
voting except for justified absentee ballots. If someone can't be
bothered to go to the polls, they shouldn't have a vote. I'm in WA where
vote by mail started a few years ago and I hate it.
And we need to diminish the power of the two major parties -they've made
it very difficult for other parties. And no more gerrymandering - use
census blocks for precincts.
Oh, yes - corporations are *not* people!
--
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross.
On 11/10/2012 12:45 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> But going back to "white male property owners" seems a bit much. So what
> should the criteria be? Federal taxpayers only won't fly, it would
> disenfranchise a lot of the seniors and the temporarily unemployed.
>
> I'd like to see some requirement to demonstrate knowledge of how the
> government works in order to register to vote. No more "motor voter".
> But how do we ensure the test won't be used to keep out minorities as it
> was in the past?
>
> One thing is for certain in my mind. We need to do away with mail in
> voting except for justified absentee ballots. If someone can't be
> bothered to go to the polls, they shouldn't have a vote. I'm in WA where
> vote by mail started a few years ago and I hate it.
I agree with you on the above.
In my opinion we must return to the very thing that made the country
work for 240 years. That is EVERYBODY is responsible for their own
actions and must accept the consequences there of. I am sure that when
our ancestor set out in wagons, they accepted the consequences of their
own actions. If a kid is not doing well in school, it should be the
parents responsibility to make sure he is learning even if they have to
ask a neighbor for assistance in helping the kid learn. (That will
never fly because the most difficult words in any language is the
equivalent of "I don't know" Some see asking for help as I don't know.
It is easier to blame everything on some one else like Bush or the
school system. )
In my opinion that is the problem with the emphasis on diversity. Up
until the middle of the last century, everyone was measured by his
contribution in all races. The soldiers who joined to fight in World
War II joined because it was the right thing to do, it was their
responsibility to do their duty, to defend their country and way of life
against those who were attacking us, even if they were discriminated at
home. Until that time the bottom line was we were all Americans, not
German Americans, African Americans, etc, ALL Americans.
Today with no one taking responsibility for their own actions, it is
quite easy for a president or the man in the street to blame a division
call "the rich", "the whites" or "the blacks" for failing. Each must run
on their own record, and not deny that their record does not exist.
Each of us is dealt the same deck of cards whether we win or loose
depends on how Each of us plays his cards. When you loose at Poker you
don't see many players blaming the dealer, one of the other players, or
someone else, they know they were responsible.
Keith Nuttle wrote:
>
> I agree with you on the above.
>
> In my opinion we must return to the very thing that made the country
> work for 240 years. That is EVERYBODY is responsible for their own
> actions and must accept the consequences there of. I am sure that
> when our ancestor set out in wagons, they accepted the consequences
> of their own actions.
Not at all! It is a well known fact that when wagon trains were ambushed
and all were killed in the ambush, the survivors sued the Wagon Master and
his company for damages. Sheese - get up to speed on your history, will ya?
--
-Mike-
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Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 12:38 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I agree with you on the above.
>>>
>>> In my opinion we must return to the very thing that made the country
>>> work for 240 years. That is EVERYBODY is responsible for their own
>>> actions and must accept the consequences there of. I am sure that
>>> when our ancestor set out in wagons, they accepted the consequences
>>> of their own actions.
>>
>> Not at all! It is a well known fact that when wagon trains were
>> ambushed and all were killed in the ambush, the survivors sued the
>> Wagon Master and his company for damages. Sheese - get up to speed
>> on your history, will ya?
>
>
> They also had regular meetings to discuss the plight of the womyn and
> how they might achieve greater social justice by stealing from other
> wagon trains.
Yeahbut that wasn't stealing - it was redistribution of wealth. Or what I
see we're now calling "asking the righ to pay just a little more..."
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On 11/10/2012 3:50 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> On 11/10/2012 12:38 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you on the above.
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion we must return to the very thing that made the country
>>>> work for 240 years. That is EVERYBODY is responsible for their own
>>>> actions and must accept the consequences there of. I am sure that
>>>> when our ancestor set out in wagons, they accepted the consequences
>>>> of their own actions.
>>>
>>> Not at all! It is a well known fact that when wagon trains were
>>> ambushed and all were killed in the ambush, the survivors sued the
>>> Wagon Master and his company for damages. Sheese - get up to speed
>>> on your history, will ya?
>>
>>
>> They also had regular meetings to discuss the plight of the womyn and
>> how they might achieve greater social justice by stealing from other
>> wagon trains.
>
> Yeahbut that wasn't stealing - it was redistribution of wealth. Or what I
> see we're now calling "asking the righ to pay just a little more..."
>
I also obama built the roads for them, they were like the truth today
just difficult to find.
On 11/7/2012 5:15 PM, Stuart wrote:
> In the US you vote for a president who is expected to lead the country yet
> the government he has to lead can be dominated by members of the opposite
> party who will fight everything he tries to do.
>
> Sounds as crazy as the sums of money wasted in all the razzamataz of the
> campaigning
Listening to my British passport carrying oldest daughter in the UK,
things don't sound all that different from here ...
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:49:08 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/07/2012 02:50 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> As I watched the election returns last night, the cameras panned
>> Romney headquarters in Boston shortly after Ohio has been declared
>> for Obama.
>>
>> There sat a group of people who were clearly in shock.
>>
>> A group of people who were approaching advanced middle age,
>> and monolithic in color.
>>
>> They were all white.
>>
>> Where were the young people?
>>
>> Where were the blacks?
>>
>> Where were the brown skinned people?
>>
>> Where were the yellow skinned people?
>>
>> Where were the native American people?
>>
>> Clearly this group of people did not reflect 21st century America.
>>
>> The election results truly showed how out of touch with reality
>> the Republican party has become.
>>
>> Lew
>
>No. This election demonstrated that now, more than ever, the looters can
>steal from the producers to buy votes from the moochers.
+1, and it shows how racist^H^H^H^H^H^Hfocused on race Lew is. (White
people aren't Americans?) BTW, I'm white and wasn't shocked.
The REPs should have found an electable guy in the first place.
Connie in '16? ;)
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On 11/8/2012 1:45 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote:
>
>> Blaming it on Bush ain't gonna cut it starting today ...
> ------------------------------------------------------
> The structrual damage to the economy caused by Bush
> has had an affect that will take years to totally recover from.
>
> Improvement, especially the housing market, yes, but total
> recovery is going to take longer than anyone wants.
>
> Lew
>
>
Spoken like a true Democrat. :~)
On 11/7/2012 7:45 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> Relatively narrow margin win. It took all those other colored skin
>> people together to beat the white man.
> -------------------------------------------------------
> That's the way the game is played.
>
> FDR recognized the power of coalitions.
>
> "Whitey" is getting long in the tooth.
>
> Unless the GOP makes some major changes,
> they will be history by 2050, IMHO.
If those in power as of yesterday don't solve the still looming economic
issues, it is they who will be history, by 2016.
Blaming it on Bush ain't gonna cut it starting today ...
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