jj

jack

03/07/2008 6:21 PM

Problems installing mortising attachment

I have just bought a new drill press, the General International
75-025, and am trying to attach the General International 70-900
mortising accessory to it. Whenever I turn the unit on with the
mortiser installed, it spins a couple of seconds and then the arbor
and chuck fall out of the quill.

I have followed the instructions for installing the arbor and chuck
and the drill works fine with an ordinary bit installed. As far as I
can tell everything is correctly set up. The rather brief instruction
manual contains no trouble-shooting guide.

Is there a way to install the arbor in the quill more positively?
Could there be something wrong with the mortising bit? Alignment?

I would appreciate any help on this as I am new to this kind of setup.

Best Regards,
Jack Fearnley


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jj

jack

in reply to jack on 03/07/2008 6:21 PM

04/07/2008 2:12 PM

On Jul 4, 1:51 pm, spaco <[email protected]> wrote:
> Google "chuck falls out", using the quotation marks. You will find
> many usefule hits. I think it's the "rattling" of the mortiser bit in
> the chisel that shakes it loose. Whereas the down pressure of pushing
> drill bits serves to force the parts together.

Many thanks to Marc Rosen, Nova and spaco! It's true, I had omitted
the cleanup with acetone. Once that was done I tried again with the
1/2" bit. Same problem. Perhaps it is out of alignment. The auger
does seem to rub against the chisel. I then tried the three smaller
bits and they work fine, so it must be that either there is something
wrong with the 1/2" or it's too heavy.

Marc, how do you shim the bit exactly? I stabbed myself twice in the
hand fiddling with the bits. Those chisel tips are plenty sharp!

I had already googled loose chuck but it didn't address my particular
problem. Using "chuck falls out" was more productive.

One of the problems I have is that, in order to remove the mortising
attachment, I have to remove the chuck. So I don't want to make it
too tough to remove. Maybe after a couple more days I can figure out
a way around that.

Thanks again,
Jack Fearnley

mr

marc rosen

in reply to jack on 03/07/2008 6:21 PM

03/07/2008 6:32 PM

Hello Jack,
I'm not going to pretend I know the problem since I am unfamiliar with
the set up you have but on my bench top mortiser - A Delta model- I
have to set the chisel a few milimeters away from its "home position"
using a shim, install the drill bit in the chuck, and then reseat the
chisel to its true position after removing the shim. Does your chisel
require this same postioning procedure?
I'm curious to know if the drill bit is rubbing against the bottom of
the chisel.

Marc

Nn

Nova

in reply to jack on 03/07/2008 6:21 PM

04/07/2008 2:45 PM

jack wrote:

> I have just bought a new drill press, the General International
> 75-025, and am trying to attach the General International 70-900
> mortising accessory to it. Whenever I turn the unit on with the
> mortiser installed, it spins a couple of seconds and then the arbor
> and chuck fall out of the quill.
>
> I have followed the instructions for installing the arbor and chuck
> and the drill works fine with an ordinary bit installed. As far as I
> can tell everything is correctly set up. The rather brief instruction
> manual contains no trouble-shooting guide.
>
> Is there a way to install the arbor in the quill more positively?
> Could there be something wrong with the mortising bit? Alignment?
>
> I would appreciate any help on this as I am new to this kind of setup.
>
> Best Regards,
> Jack Fearnley
>

Make sure the arbor and the quill are clean and free from oil/grease.
Clean them with something like acetone, naphtha, etc.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

mr

marc rosen

in reply to jack on 03/07/2008 6:21 PM

04/07/2008 3:57 PM


Marc, =A0how do you shim the bit exactly? I stabbed myself twice in the
hand fiddling with the bits. =A0Those chisel tips are plenty sharp!

Hello Again Jack,
Here is how I set up my benchtop mortiser;
I set the clearance by inserting a dime between the shoulder of the
chisel and the mortising chuck and lightly tighten the chisel in
place. Then I insert the drill bit into its chuck until the flutes
barely touch the chisel points. (On some units you may have to install
both chisel and drill bit at the same time because of depth
clearance). Next, I loosen the chisel and (with the dime safely back
in your pocket, or piggy bank) push the chisel up into its chuck and
retighten securely. The gap introduced by the dime is now the
clearance between the drill bit flutes and the chisel points. For
good measure, use some type of dry lubricant on both bit and chisel-
inside and out- before and during the mortising operations. After the
propellents dry, the lubricant will not affect the wood or alter its
subsequent finish. I think Elmer makes a good dry spray lubricant in
addition to their spray adhesives. (I'm not joking here).
Hope this helps, if not type back.
Marc



(And just so I don't get sued for plagiarism by my best friend Brian
Graham, of the Cayce Company, I am referencing his Fine Woodworking
article from May 2002 for some of the terminology above. The piggy
bank comment is mine.)

ss

spaco

in reply to jack on 03/07/2008 6:21 PM

04/07/2008 12:51 PM

Google "chuck falls out", using the quotation marks. You will find
many usefule hits. I think it's the "rattling" of the mortiser bit in
the chisel that shakes it loose. Whereas the down pressure of pushing
drill bits serves to force the parts together.

Pete Stanaitis
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jack wrote:
Whenever I turn the unit on with the
> mortiser installed, it spins a couple of seconds and then the arbor
> and chuck fall out of the quill.
>


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