I need to make some solid core walnut slab doors 3-0 by 9-0 to match
some existing doors (width is 1 3/4" by the way). I couldn't find
anyone who sells a solid core walnut slab door or solid core door in
walnut veneer so I thought I might try and make one. My problem is
that I don't have a planer that can accept a 3-0 wide door and 2. I
can't find anyone who sells a 3-0 by 9-0 slab door to apply a veneer
to, and even if I could, I could only find walnut veneer in 8'
lengths. I need to make 4 doors along with frames and some other
walnut molding, The doors are what is giving me a problem as I don't
really know what to do.
I'm not sure whether my concerns are valid but the size of these doors
is daunting to me. That's why I was looking to buy the doors. I can
glue up a nine foot door but I'm worried about planing it. Also, I
haven't checked the price of walnut stock but my gut tells me it'd be
cheaper to make out of poplar then apply a veneer but I can't find a
veneer that is long enough. Actually, even if I did glue it up, I
don't know how temerature change and humidity would affect such a huge
slab (I've never made anything this big, the only doors I've ever made
are raised panel cabinet doors!) Any advice is MUCH appreciated.
Thanks.
David
On May 25, 10:33=A0pm, Amigo108 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need to make some solid core walnut slab doors 3-0 by 9-0 to match
> some existing doors ...
> can't find anyone who sells a 3-0 by 9-0 slab door to apply a veneer
> to, and even if I could, I could only find walnut veneer in 8'
> lengths.
Well, a 10 foot walnut plank can be resawed to make your long
veneers, and don't worry about flattening a whole door like
it was a rough board to be thicknessed. Get it flat or nearly so,
and you're done.
I hope this is an interior door problem, slab doors are (IMHO) ugly
and I distrust their stability when compared to frame-and-panel
doors. I'd expect a 3-0 by 9-0 slab to be a wood skin over a
steel fire door, in a commercial building of some sort.
On Mon, 25 May 2009 22:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Amigo108
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm not sure whether my concerns are valid but the size of these doors
>is daunting to me. That's why I was looking to buy the doors. I can
>glue up a nine foot door but I'm worried about planing it. Also, I
>haven't checked the price of walnut stock but my gut tells me it'd be
>cheaper to make out of poplar then apply a veneer but I can't find a
>veneer that is long enough. Actually, even if I did glue it up, I
>don't know how temerature change and humidity would affect such a huge
>slab (I've never made anything this big, the only doors I've ever made
>are raised panel cabinet doors!) Any advice is MUCH appreciated.
If you're not going to build them I think you're looking at a custom
door.
Check with the guy at your lumber yard and see what door manufacturers
he carries. Most of the larger manufacturers can custom build about
anything you want. It will be expensive and you'll need some lead
time. We've done a few jobs with custom doors from Simpson and they
build a good door.
Mike O.
On May 27, 8:14=A0pm, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 May 2009 22:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Amigo108
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I need to make some solid core walnut slab doors 3-0 by9-0to match
> >some existing doors (width is 1 3/4" by the way). =A0I couldn't find
> >anyone who sells a solid core walnut slabdooror solid coredoorin
> >walnut veneer so I thought I might try and make one. =A0My problem is
> >that I don't have a planer that can accept a 3-0 widedoorand 2. I
> >can't find anyone who sells a 3-0 by9-0slabdoorto apply a veneer
> >to, and even if I could, I could only find walnut veneer in 8'
> >lengths. =A0I need to make 4 doors along with frames and some other
> >walnut molding, =A0The doors are what is giving me a problem as I don't
> >really know what to do.
>
> >I'm not sure whether my concerns are valid but the size of these doors
> >is daunting to me. =A0That's why I was looking to buy the doors. =A0I ca=
n
> >glue up a nine footdoorbut I'm worried about planing it. =A0Also, I
> >haven't checked the price of walnut stock but my gut tells me it'd be
> >cheaper to make out of poplar then apply a veneer but I can't find a
> >veneer that is long enough. =A0Actually, even if I did glue it up, I
> >don't know how temerature change and humidity would affect such a huge
> >slab (I've never made anything this big, the only doors I've ever made
> >are raised panel cabinet doors!) Any advice is MUCH appreciated.
> >Thanks.
>
> Are there any issues with fire codes? =A0Often commercial doors need to
> be fire rated, which would seem to be a difficult proposition for such
> custom doors.
I think I found a supplier to custom build the doors for me.
There's no issue with fire rating. I think as a rule, solid core
doors are at least 1 hour fire rated.
> Well, a 10 foot walnut plank can be resawed to make your long
> veneers, and don't worry about flattening a whole door like
> it was a rough board to be thicknessed. =A0Get it flat or nearly so,
> and you're done.
>
> I hope this is an interior door problem, slab doors are (IMHO) ugly
> and I distrust their stability when compared to frame-and-panel
> doors. =A0 I'd expect a 3-0 by 9-0 slab to be a wood skin over a
> steel fire door, in a commercial building of some sort.
Yeah, it's in a commercial building. The doors need to be routed out
to attach/insert hidden closers as well as the lockset, Not sure I
could do that with a steel door. It is an interior door and I too was
worried about the stability which is another reason I didn't want to
try and make them. These things are like dining room tables on hinges!
On Mon, 25 May 2009 22:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Amigo108
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I need to make some solid core walnut slab doors 3-0 by 9-0 to match
>some existing doors (width is 1 3/4" by the way). I couldn't find
>anyone who sells a solid core walnut slab door or solid core door in
>walnut veneer so I thought I might try and make one. My problem is
>that I don't have a planer that can accept a 3-0 wide door and 2. I
>can't find anyone who sells a 3-0 by 9-0 slab door to apply a veneer
>to, and even if I could, I could only find walnut veneer in 8'
>lengths. I need to make 4 doors along with frames and some other
>walnut molding, The doors are what is giving me a problem as I don't
>really know what to do.
>
>I'm not sure whether my concerns are valid but the size of these doors
>is daunting to me. That's why I was looking to buy the doors. I can
>glue up a nine foot door but I'm worried about planing it. Also, I
>haven't checked the price of walnut stock but my gut tells me it'd be
>cheaper to make out of poplar then apply a veneer but I can't find a
>veneer that is long enough. Actually, even if I did glue it up, I
>don't know how temerature change and humidity would affect such a huge
>slab (I've never made anything this big, the only doors I've ever made
>are raised panel cabinet doors!) Any advice is MUCH appreciated.
>Thanks.
Are there any issues with fire codes? Often commercial doors need to
be fire rated, which would seem to be a difficult proposition for such
custom doors.
You might try these folks:
http://www.forms-surfaces.com/product_category.php?class=ARCHITECTURAL_SURFACES&category=Wood_Veneer
Their doors are fairly expensive, but the show is worth the price
of admission. I've had their products on several projects.
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>I need to make some solid core walnut slab doors 3-0 by 9-0 to
>match
> some existing doors (width is 1 3/4" by the way). I couldn't
> find
> anyone who sells a solid core walnut slab door or solid core
> door in
> walnut veneer so I thought I might try and make one. My problem
> is
> that I don't have a planer that can accept a 3-0 wide door and
> 2. I
> can't find anyone who sells a 3-0 by 9-0 slab door to apply a
> veneer
> to, and even if I could, I could only find walnut veneer in 8'
> lengths. I need to make 4 doors along with frames and some
> other
> walnut molding, The doors are what is giving me a problem as I
> don't
> really know what to do.
>
> I'm not sure whether my concerns are valid but the size of these
> doors
> is daunting to me. That's why I was looking to buy the doors.
> I can
> glue up a nine foot door but I'm worried about planing it.
> Also, I
> haven't checked the price of walnut stock but my gut tells me
> it'd be
> cheaper to make out of poplar then apply a veneer but I can't
> find a
> veneer that is long enough. Actually, even if I did glue it up,
> I
> don't know how temerature change and humidity would affect such
> a huge
> slab (I've never made anything this big, the only doors I've
> ever made
> are raised panel cabinet doors!) Any advice is MUCH appreciated.
> Thanks.
>
> David
On Fri, 29 May 2009 10:17:04 -0700 (PDT), Amigo108
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On May 27, 8:14 pm, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 May 2009 22:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Amigo108
>>
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >I need to make some solid core walnut slab doors 3-0 by9-0to match
>> >some existing doors (width is 1 3/4" by the way). I couldn't find
>> >anyone who sells a solid core walnut slabdooror solid coredoorin
>> >walnut veneer so I thought I might try and make one. My problem is
>> >that I don't have a planer that can accept a 3-0 widedoorand 2. I
>> >can't find anyone who sells a 3-0 by9-0slabdoorto apply a veneer
>> >to, and even if I could, I could only find walnut veneer in 8'
>> >lengths. I need to make 4 doors along with frames and some other
>> >walnut molding, The doors are what is giving me a problem as I don't
>> >really know what to do.
>>
>> >I'm not sure whether my concerns are valid but the size of these doors
>> >is daunting to me. That's why I was looking to buy the doors. I can
>> >glue up a nine footdoorbut I'm worried about planing it. Also, I
>> >haven't checked the price of walnut stock but my gut tells me it'd be
>> >cheaper to make out of poplar then apply a veneer but I can't find a
>> >veneer that is long enough. Actually, even if I did glue it up, I
>> >don't know how temerature change and humidity would affect such a huge
>> >slab (I've never made anything this big, the only doors I've ever made
>> >are raised panel cabinet doors!) Any advice is MUCH appreciated.
>> >Thanks.
>>
>> Are there any issues with fire codes? Often commercial doors need to
>> be fire rated, which would seem to be a difficult proposition for such
>> custom doors.
>
>I think I found a supplier to custom build the doors for me.
>
>There's no issue with fire rating. I think as a rule, solid core
>doors are at least 1 hour fire rated.
I don't know the rules, but I thought they had to be rated and listed
by a fire underwriter's organization, sorta like UL lists electrical
devices. I ran into this problem when I built my garage (stupid
building inspector).