Gs

"Gramp's shop"

13/11/2012 2:25 PM

Poly / sanding / steel wool

As you may recall, I've been working on a little coffee table outta reclaim=
ed cherry. Construction is complete and I've elected to finish it with oil=
-based satin poly. I've used 400 wet/dry between the first and second coat=
and am thinking of switching to 0000 steel wood for the next three coats. =
Opinions?

TIA

Larry


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Leon

in reply to "Gramp's shop" on 13/11/2012 2:25 PM

14/11/2012 10:32 AM

On 11/13/2012 4:25 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
> As you may recall, I've been working on a little coffee table outta reclaimed cherry. Construction is complete and I've elected to finish it with oil-based satin poly. I've used 400 wet/dry between the first and second coat and am thinking of switching to 0000 steel wood for the next three coats. Opinions?
>
> TIA
>
> Larry
>


If you use a oil based gel varnish, I really like Old Masters, you will
get an oil based satin finish and you will not have to sand between any
coats. Wipe it on wipe it off immediately with a clean lent free cloth,
wipe again with another lent free cloth 5 minutes later. Repeat 4 hours
later as many times as you wish.

Oh, and the finish will look like a pro sprayed it on. It is a no brainer.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Gramp's shop" on 13/11/2012 2:25 PM

13/11/2012 3:12 PM

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:25:55 PM UTC-8, Gramp's shop wrote:
> As you may recall, I've been working on a little coffee table outta recla=
imed cherry. Construction is complete and I've elected to finish it with oi=
l-based satin poly. I've used 400 wet/dry between the first and second coat=
and am thinking of switching to 0000 steel wood for the next three coats. =
Opinions? TIA Larry

Wiping poly rubs out nicely for a few coats. Spray or brush poly will be to=
o heavy for steel wool after one or two coats. Not sure what you are after =
here but 3 coats or so and you have plastic not wood.=20

I use wipe on poly all the time for table tops but maybe 3 or 4 coats at mo=
st. As soon as you have noticable build you need to stop applying. It still=
rubs out and waxes well when thin enough but I have had really sad results=
when you get too much poly, it is not like lacquer or other softer varnish=
es. To thick and you really are in a different game.

Also, my typical approach is only sand the first coat (or second coat if fi=
rst is super thin), just to flatten the wood fibers. Then 2 more coats with=
no sand between. Then rub out and wax (at the same time) with steel wool o=
r scrub pads.=20

Perfect for lacquer and works well with thin poly.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "Gramp's shop" on 13/11/2012 2:25 PM

14/11/2012 12:13 AM

On Nov 13, 5:25=A0pm, "Gramp's shop" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> As you may recall, I've been working on a little coffee table outta recla=
imed cherry. =A0Construction is complete and I've elected to finish it with=
oil-based satin poly. =A0I've used 400 wet/dry between the first and secon=
d coat and am thinking of switching to 0000 steel wood for the next three c=
oats. =A0Opinions?

Wet-dry paper would probably give a better tooth than steel wool,
which burnishes more than it abrades. Try ragging on the last
2 or 3 coats, same as you would Watco, full strength or
thinned 50%, whichever handles more easily. Lightly scuff
between coats with 320 or 400.

Gs

"Gramp's shop"

in reply to "Gramp's shop" on 13/11/2012 2:25 PM

14/11/2012 11:38 AM

Thanks, Leon. Will try this on the next project. I've now got three coats of poly on the coffee table and SWMBO is thrilled with the results. On to the matching TV stand. Pix to come.
>
> If you use a oil based gel varnish, I really like Old Masters, you will
>
> get an oil based satin finish and you will not have to sand between any
>
> coats. Wipe it on wipe it off immediately with a clean lent free cloth,
>
> wipe again with another lent free cloth 5 minutes later. Repeat 4 hours
>
> later as many times as you wish.
>
>
>
> Oh, and the finish will look like a pro sprayed it on. It is a no brainer.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to "Gramp's shop" on 13/11/2012 2:25 PM

13/11/2012 10:39 PM

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:25:54 -0800 (PST), "Gramp's shop"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>As you may recall, I've been working on a little coffee table outta reclaimed cherry. Construction is complete and I've elected to finish it with oil-based satin poly. I've used 400 wet/dry between the first and second coat and am thinking of switching to 0000 steel wood for the next three coats. Opinions?
>
>TIA
>
>Larry


I'd put on two more coats. Then I would wait a minimum of two weeks
for it to cure. Use 400 wet, then pumice, then rottenstone, then wax.
You get a beautiful sheen, very smooth, very professional. It does not
look at all like the plastic poly finish if you do nothing.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Gramp's shop" on 13/11/2012 2:25 PM

13/11/2012 9:24 PM

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:25:54 -0800 (PST), "Gramp's shop"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>As you may recall, I've been working on a little coffee table outta reclaimed cherry. Construction is complete and I've elected to finish it with oil-based satin poly. I've used 400 wet/dry between the first and second coat and am thinking of switching to 0000 steel wood for the next three coats. Opinions?

Wetordry denibs it while 0000 will lower the gloss more quickly.
Either or both, your preference in the final finish should guide your
choice.

--
While we have the gift of life, it seems to me that only tragedy
is to allow part of us to die - whether it is our spirit, our
creativity, or our glorious uniqueness.
-- Gilda Radner

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Gramp's shop" on 13/11/2012 2:25 PM

14/11/2012 7:30 AM

Father Haskell wrote:
> On Nov 13, 5:25 pm, "Gramp's shop" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> As you may recall, I've been working on a little coffee table outta
>> reclaimed cherry. Construction is complete and I've elected to
>> finish it with oil-based satin poly. I've used 400 wet/dry between
>> the first and second coat and am thinking of switching to 0000 steel
>> wood for the next three coats. Opinions?
>
> Wet-dry paper would probably give a better tooth than steel wool,
> which burnishes more than it abrades. Try ragging on the last
> 2 or 3 coats, same as you would Watco, full strength or
> thinned 50%, whichever handles more easily. Lightly scuff
> between coats with 320 or 400.

It is very true that coarser surfaces offer more tooth than gloss surfaces,
but better tooth is not quite accurate. You could scuff with a 3M pad, 1000
grit paper, 0000 steel wool, and all would give proper tooth. I know that a
lot of people like to scuff with coarse papers like 320 or 400, but even
0000 steel wool is enough to provide tooth and degloss sufficiently for
subsequent coats.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]


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