Hi,
I'm planning to buy my first electrical sander. I need to sand for finishing
some particleboard with sealer and lacquer. I'm concerned about the fact
that teoretically I'll need to do the paint-sand-repaint process many times.
Then which kind of sander I need for this? Orbital? I've seen some
(orbital?) sanders that are labeled "finishing sander" or something alike.
Which is the difference? How many sanders I'll need? Consider I really don't
like to sand by hand...
Thanks in advance
Faustino
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:58:30 -0600, "Faustino Dina"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I'm planning to buy my first electrical sander. I need to sand for finishing
>some particleboard with sealer and lacquer. I'm concerned about the fact
>that teoretically I'll need to do the paint-sand-repaint process many times.
Use a good filler, not paint to fill the bumps. You can then finish
with 2-3 coats of paint.
Barry
"Faustino Dina" wrote
> I'm planning to buy my first electrical sander. I need to sand for
finishing
> some particleboard with sealer and lacquer. I'm concerned about the fact
> that teoretically I'll need to do the paint-sand-repaint process many
times.
> Then which kind of sander I need for this? Orbital? I've seen some
> (orbital?) sanders that are labeled "finishing sander" or something alike.
> Which is the difference? How many sanders I'll need? Consider I really
don't
> like to sand by hand...
I have a box full of sanders. If I were to limit that to one I would choose
the random orbit sander, which _is_not_ the same as an orbital sander.
That's what they used to call those crappy things Sears sold (and may still
sell). The random orbit will do a wider range of sanding than any other I
have found. I also have a finish sander and use it quite often but it will
not do rougher sanding as a random orbit sander will. With fine sandpaper a
random orbit will do almost as good of finish sanding as a finish sander
will. And, you can get away with one.
If you are talking about sanding between coats, then hand sand with a
sanding block. Hand sanding is a fact of life. Especially when finishing,
you better learn to love it now because there are lots of jobs a power
sander won't do (corners, inside edges, etc.). I never use power sander
between coats. It is too easy to sand right through.
Bring on the flames...
--
Cheers,
Howard
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Working wood in New Jersey - [email protected]
Visit me in the woodshop - www.inthewoodshop.org
sounds like good advice, Howard. Anyone that would flame you is most
likely on my twit list already! :)
dave
Howard Ruttan wrote:
snip
> I have a box full of sanders. If I were to limit that to one I would choose
> the random orbit sander, which _is_not_ the same as an orbital sander.
> That's what they used to call those crappy things Sears sold (and may still
> sell). The random orbit will do a wider range of sanding than any other I
> have found. I also have a finish sander and use it quite often but it will
> not do rougher sanding as a random orbit sander will. With fine sandpaper a
> random orbit will do almost as good of finish sanding as a finish sander
> will. And, you can get away with one.
>
> If you are talking about sanding between coats, then hand sand with a
> sanding block. Hand sanding is a fact of life. Especially when finishing,
> you better learn to love it now because there are lots of jobs a power
> sander won't do (corners, inside edges, etc.). I never use power sander
> between coats. It is too easy to sand right through.
>
> Bring on the flames...
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> Howard
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Working wood in New Jersey - [email protected]
> Visit me in the woodshop - www.inthewoodshop.org
>
>
Well, I have the Palm Zire and no, I do not sand it. I would not
recomend it either.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:04:48 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:50:29 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]>
>brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>>My first sander was a B&D Professional palm sander. It is still in
>>use after 20 years.
>
>I've just gotta ask a question which has always haunted me:
>
> Do you guys sand your palms for smoother action, or what?
>
Faustino Dina wrote:
> I'm planning to buy my first electrical sander.
If you're doing lots of large surface areas (sheet stock), or aggressive
sanding, then I agree with the other posters - start with a random orbit.
However, I personally find that I reach for my trusty DeWalt finish
sander more often than my random orbit (PC). Why?
- It's much more controllable, and hence does a better job, with narrow
pieces, near edges, etc. The RO is much more aggressive, often too much so.
- It can get into corners because the pad is square. The RO can't.
- It can get right up to an inside edge without damaging the adjoining
surface. The RO has a tendency to gouge into the adjacent surface, no
matter how careful you think you are.
- It uses regular paper (quarter sheets) which is easily mounted with 2
clips. I always have a good stock of regular paper on hand, I can
change it in seconds, and it's easy to reuse sheets that weren't used
up. My RO uses hook and loop, but I find that after being put on & off
about twice, it won't stay on reliably. Plus it's much more expensive.
I used the DeWalt for years before getting the RO. It's just more
comfortable in my hand, and it's the one I'd choose if I could have only
one. That said, I really like the RO for large, flat surfaces, and for
aggressive sanding where a belt sander is not suitable.
Long term you'll probably want both, plus a belt sander.
-Brett
Random orbital! I hate sanding and sanders but these are actually pretty
cool. I have the variable speed PC but I'm not really sure the variable
speed makes much difference. My girlfriend was hogging it to work on her
deck so I talked her into a large one and it's sweet too.
mark
"Faustino Dina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I'm planning to buy my first electrical sander. I need to sand for
finishing
> some particleboard with sealer and lacquer. I'm concerned about the fact
> that teoretically I'll need to do the paint-sand-repaint process many
times.
> Then which kind of sander I need for this? Orbital? I've seen some
> (orbital?) sanders that are labeled "finishing sander" or something alike.
> Which is the difference? How many sanders I'll need? Consider I really
don't
> like to sand by hand...
>
> Thanks in advance
> Faustino
>
>
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:50:29 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>My first sander was a B&D Professional palm sander. It is still in
>use after 20 years.
I've just gotta ask a question which has always haunted me:
Do you guys sand your palms for smoother action, or what?
"Faustino Dina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I'm planning to buy my first electrical sander. I need to sand for
finishing
> some particleboard with sealer and lacquer. I'm concerned about the fact
> that teoretically I'll need to do the paint-sand-repaint process many
times.
> Then which kind of sander I need for this? Orbital? I've seen some
> (orbital?) sanders that are labeled "finishing sander" or something alike.
> Which is the difference? How many sanders I'll need? Consider I really
don't
> like to sand by hand...
>
> Thanks in advance
> Faustino
>
>
Random orbital sander.
--
Jim in NC