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"tnfkajs"

29/07/2003 4:22 PM

Marking your tools/territory

Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?

Thinking of everything from theft prevention and recovery to aiding the
absent-minded relative that borrowed a tool. Do you engrave your names on
the tools? Do you scribe it with permanent marker? Or do you not mark your
tools at all?

Already recorded the serial numbers - just thinking I should go one step
further and attach my surname to each tool.

thanks!


This topic has 22 replies

tt

[email protected] (todd1814)

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 8:24 AM

"tnfkajs" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>
> Thinking of everything from theft prevention and recovery to aiding the
> absent-minded relative that borrowed a tool. Do you engrave your names on
> the tools? Do you scribe it with permanent marker? Or do you not mark your
> tools at all?
>
> Already recorded the serial numbers - just thinking I should go one step
> further and attach my surname to each tool.
>
> thanks!

Theft prevention? Just put some "Craftsman" stickers on 'em!

ba

bay area dave

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 2:01 AM

The only tools I used to mark were my mechanics tools when I worked 17 years
in the auto field. At home, there aren't anyone else's tools to get confused
with. I'm not too paranoid equipment being stolen. Somewhere in my office I
could find serial numbers of my equipment, in a pinch. I don't lay awake
worrying about that kinda stuff.

dave

tnfkajs wrote:

> Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>
> Thinking of everything from theft prevention and recovery to aiding the
> absent-minded relative that borrowed a tool. Do you engrave your names on
> the tools? Do you scribe it with permanent marker? Or do you not mark your
> tools at all?
>
> Already recorded the serial numbers - just thinking I should go one step
> further and attach my surname to each tool.
>
> thanks!

DR

"Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D. P.A."

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

29/07/2003 9:00 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
> "tnfkajs" writes:
> .
> > Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
> <snip>
>
> Marking tools, like locks, keep honest people honest.
>
> Thieves could care less if something is marked.

It can help you get them back if they're recovered.

Most of my tools were owned by other people, some by several
generations of other people. Each set of initials adds historic
value.

BR

Bruce Rowen

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 7:56 AM

The local PD says at least one digit (0 - 9) is required to make an
engraved
identifier "valid" (i.e. Bruce7). Kinda like an MSN user name...
I think it has something to do with how stolen stuff.
gets listed in a computer somewhere.

-Bruce

Jeff Cochran wrote:
>
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:22:22 -0600, "tnfkajs" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>
> Got a carpenter friend (female) who paints her tools pink. Guys on
> the jobsite leave them alone. Took a cue and the last time I bought a
> 4-in-1 screwdriver for work, bought the pink handle. Have had it for
> four years now and used to lose them every few months before. :)
>
> Jeff


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bay area dave

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

02/08/2003 3:42 AM

To avoid shrinkage, stay out of the pool!

dave

Sam Soltan wrote:

> snip
> Still, we get "shrinkage." We try to explaine duing the class why it is
> necessary to put tools back. If you need to borrow a tool, ask - if we can

snip

Jn

Jules

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

31/07/2003 1:00 PM



Gary DeWitt wrote:

>I was told by a police officer many years ago to use my driver's
>license number. It is both obvious to police what it is, and useless
>to a theif for identity theft.
>

It is very usefull. Times have changed.

RS

"Rob Stokes"

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 2:29 AM

pee on 'em.

works every time. 'course you'll never pick 'em up again either
but....that's how we grow our tool collections...

Good luck
Rob


"tnfkajs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>
> Thinking of everything from theft prevention and recovery to aiding the
> absent-minded relative that borrowed a tool. Do you engrave your names on
> the tools? Do you scribe it with permanent marker? Or do you not mark your
> tools at all?
>
> Already recorded the serial numbers - just thinking I should go one step
> further and attach my surname to each tool.
>
> thanks!
>
>

AP

AM Pittman

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

29/07/2003 8:39 PM

I used to teach so every tool I own is marked. As someone commented it
only keeps the honest folks from taking something but strangely tools
did stop getting misplaced once I started marking.

One bit of advice. Never lead to a relative you'll never see it again.

Also mircostamp.com makes custom marking stamps. If your gonna engrave
a number of tootls might be helpful.

Amy

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:22:22 -0600, "tnfkajs" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>
>Thinking of everything from theft prevention and recovery to aiding the
>absent-minded relative that borrowed a tool. Do you engrave your names on
>the tools? Do you scribe it with permanent marker? Or do you not mark your
>tools at all?
>
>Already recorded the serial numbers - just thinking I should go one step
>further and attach my surname to each tool.
>
>thanks!
>

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"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

29/07/2003 11:52 PM


"tnfkajs" writes:
.
> Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
<snip>

Marking tools, like locks, keep honest people honest.

Thieves could care less if something is marked.


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"Preston Andreas"

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 2:23 AM

I just had a few grand worth of tools stolen. I didn't have the serial
numbers written down, but had the manuals for the tools so I will be
reimbursed. However, it is best if you put your mark (name, symbol,
whatever) somewhere on the tool and if you can, inside the tool where it
can't be seen. Also, as you have done, record the model and serial numbers.
Finally, take a picture of each tool and make a copy of the receipt if you
have it. Hopefully, the insurance company won't argue with that.

Supposedly, when a tool is hocked, the serial number is checked against the
police database of stolen items (at least here in San Antonio). The officer
that took the report of my theft said a fair amount of tools are recovered
if they have the serial number.

Preston
"tnfkajs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>
> Thinking of everything from theft prevention and recovery to aiding the
> absent-minded relative that borrowed a tool. Do you engrave your names on
> the tools? Do you scribe it with permanent marker? Or do you not mark your
> tools at all?
>
> Already recorded the serial numbers - just thinking I should go one step
> further and attach my surname to each tool.
>
> thanks!
>
>

Hh

"HarryM"

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

29/07/2003 10:15 PM

I have them all recorded in a inventory database, complete with serial
numbers and model numbers. However, I don't like the scribed markings. It
seems like the inscribed tools I have bought at auctions all seem to have
rust around the markings. Instead of loaning tools, put up a sign to the
effect that tool rental is "$xx per hour". harrym

"tnfkajs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>
> Thinking of everything from theft prevention and recovery to aiding the
> absent-minded relative that borrowed a tool. Do you engrave your names on
> the tools? Do you scribe it with permanent marker? Or do you not mark your
> tools at all?
>
> Already recorded the serial numbers - just thinking I should go one step
> further and attach my surname to each tool.
>
> thanks!
>
>

Gs

"George"

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

31/07/2003 11:11 AM

So why bother assigning another number? The databases I've seen have
included the serial as well as the property number. How you track it must
merely be unique. Personally, I think it's because folks got in the habit
of sequential property numbers back in the Ashton-Tate days - couldn't have
a multi-field index.

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > Always puzzled me that items with their own serial # are remarked, which
> > marks are often removed, then remarked, with institutional property
> numbers.
> > Isn't a serial # supposed to be unique?
>
>
> Institutional number have nothing to do with the serial number. Most
> companies don't care about the serial number, but do care that the item
was
> purchased on a given date and depreciated accordingly.
>
> It is also important when tooling is lent (and stored) to another shop for
> work. In the case of a bankruptcy, easily identified tooling with a
company
> stamp will be released more readily than those not marked. You need a
court
> order to get your property back.

Gs

"George"

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 11:37 AM

If you already have the serial, you have all you need. A munged or missing
serial is obvious, an oddball mark somewhere is an oddball mark.

Always puzzled me that items with their own serial # are remarked, which
marks are often removed, then remarked, with institutional property numbers.
Isn't a serial # supposed to be unique?

Never made any difference when I asked that question at reinventory time
when I had to put new labels over old, but it should have.

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "tnfkajs" writes:
> .
> > Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
> <snip>
>
> Marking tools, like locks, keep honest people honest.
>
> Thieves could care less if something is marked.
>
>
> --
> Lew
>
> S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the
Southland)
> Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 2:30 AM


"tnfkajs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>
> Thinking of everything from theft prevention and recovery to aiding the
> absent-minded relative that borrowed a tool. Do you engrave your names on
> the tools? Do you scribe it with permanent marker? Or do you not mark your
> tools at all?

Do you have a Dremel tool? They have a bit that is designed for engraving.
You can write your name, or whatever if you'd like.

OTOH, does a thief stop to check for marks? Heck no, but it may help with
recovery if the junkie is caught with the goods.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


DD

"Dan Dresner"

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 7:13 PM

Yeah, but you should hear what the guys are saying about you...!

;-))

"Jeff Cochran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:22:22 -0600, "tnfkajs" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>
> Got a carpenter friend (female) who paints her tools pink. Guys on
> the jobsite leave them alone. Took a cue and the last time I bought a
> 4-in-1 screwdriver for work, bought the pink handle. Have had it for
> four years now and used to lose them every few months before. :)
>
> Jeff

Ww

WCD

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

31/07/2003 12:11 PM


Tim Douglass wrote:

>
> What do you do when you move out of state?
>


Well, DUH!

Obviously you buy new toolz!




TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

31/07/2003 8:28 AM

On 30 Jul 2003 18:10:12 -0700, [email protected] (Gary DeWitt) wrote:

>"tnfkajs" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
>>
>
>I was told by a police officer many years ago to use my driver's
>license number. It is both obvious to police what it is, and useless
>to a theif for identity theft. Also easier to look up nationwide,
>there are several others with my same name out there but my number is
>unique.
>Format should go (in CA) something like: CDL xxxxxxxx.

What do you do when you move out of state?

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

31/07/2003 2:57 PM

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:22:22 -0600, "tnfkajs" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?

Typical UK practice for stolen property marking is to mark with your
postcode (and maybe house number). Police will usually manage to
return such items, and second-hand dealers are more suspicious about
buying them (for the police sometimes trawl the shops for marked
goods).

I use my parent's postcode, for I'm likely to move house a lot more
often than they do.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 9:21 PM


"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Always puzzled me that items with their own serial # are remarked, which
> marks are often removed, then remarked, with institutional property
numbers.
> Isn't a serial # supposed to be unique?


Institutional number have nothing to do with the serial number. Most
companies don't care about the serial number, but do care that the item was
purchased on a given date and depreciated accordingly.

It is also important when tooling is lent (and stored) to another shop for
work. In the case of a bankruptcy, easily identified tooling with a company
stamp will be released more readily than those not marked. You need a court
order to get your property back.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


Sd

Silvan

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

01/08/2003 10:39 AM

Bubba wrote:

> Marked or not, if you lend your tools to friends or relatives, you might
> as well kiss them (your tools) goodby.

Unless you live next door and have a key to his house... :)

(Works both ways though. He has a key to my shop. Where the hell did I
leave that hammer?)

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c

in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

30/07/2003 10:23 AM

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"tnfkajs" writes:
>.
>> Do you and, if so, how do you folks mark tools with your name?
><snip>
>
>Marking tools, like locks, keep honest people honest.
>
>Thieves could care less if something is marked.

Slime balls could also care less if that 20% of real value tool has
someone elses name on it.

I think a bill of sale can deal with my name or yours on something
dealt off.

Wes

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in reply to "tnfkajs" on 29/07/2003 4:22 PM

01/08/2003 8:47 PM

"George" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Item Mfr. Model S/N P Date P
>Price
>
>Printer HP 940c 100101 4/12/02
>89.00
>
>Now why would that slick HP outfit assign the same serial to different
>940c's ?

Maybe that model sold over 1.1 million?

Wes
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